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Posted on 11/26/2011 6:26:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Recreating the spectacular pose many dinosaurs adopted in death might involve following the simplest of instructions: just add water.
When palaeontologists are lucky enough to find a complete dinosaur skeleton – whether it be a tiny Sinosauropteryx or an enormous Apatosaurus – there's a good chance it will be found with its head thrown backwards and its tail arched upwards – technically known as the opisthotonic death pose. No one is entirely sure why this posture is so common, but Alicia Cutler and colleagues from Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, think it all comes down to a dip in the wet stuff.
Cutler placed plucked chickens – both fresh and frozen – on a bed of sand for three months to see if desiccation would lead to muscle contractions that pulled the neck upwards – a previously suggested explanation for the death pose. The chickens decayed without contorting. When seven other chickens were placed into cool, fresh water, however, their necks arched and their heads were thrown back within seconds. Sustained immersion of the birds for up to a month slightly increased the severity of the pose, but the major movement of the head occurred almost immediately.
The result contrasts with a study carried out in 2007 by Cynthia Marshall Faux at the Museum of the Rockies in Bozeman, Montana, and Kevin Padian at the University of California in Berkeley. The pair found that salty water did not alter the pose of dead quails. They concluded that the arched back seen in so many fossils was instead the result of the expiring dinosaur's final death throes (Paleobiology, DOI: 10.1666/06015.1) – an idea that was first suggested by pathologist Roy Moodie in 1918.
Why dunking dead birds in water produced different results in the two studies is not clear.
(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...
So, you can't point to the actual errors then?
Speaking of errors, how's the book of Mormon holding up? Find any Nephites or Lamanites yet?
What kind?
intentional?
Unintentional; due to lack of knowledge?
Accidental; due to laziness?
Preventable?
Do any of these errors dramatically CHANGE the message?
Dear Elsie,
I sincerely doubt the majority of errors were purposeful. Medieval scribes often could not read well enough to understand what they were being asked to copy in scriptoriums. Over the centuries the forms of letters changed, too, complicating the task of the scribes.
As for deliberate changes or additions...it isn’t my place to tell you as biblical rsearch continues apace. The discoveries of documents, some previously known and others unknown, expands the knowledge biblical scholars have concerning the first couple centuries after Jesus’s death and particularly the few decades prior to his preaching in Jerusalem. It is best you make this research on your own.
I find this hard to believe!
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Ha! I didn’t even notice Velikovsky’s name on that post. Doh!
Of course it would be really hard not to understand, with accurate depictions of various dinos on cave walls, temple walls and columns, and small stones scattered through the Andes, with 1000 year old moss growing in the etchings.
Cover your head, this stuff must be rough on you.
M’Kay. You made the claim that dinosaurs were “proved” to be in existence during the middle ages based on “historical documents” to now you are claiming that the highly stylized paintings of very real and native lizards (not dinos) and purely mythological creatures on rocks and cave walls by a pre-Colombian people are “proof” positive of dinos living during the middle ages? You do know that some have interpreted some primitive cave and rock paintings to be proof positive of ancient aliens or time travelers? Did you ever consider that people of this time period discovered the bones and ancient fossils of long dead dinosaurs and recreated them not so differently than we do today based on the fossil remains and depicted then and then created mythical stories and depictions around them in order to explain them?
You are either deeply deluded or very uninformed or quite naive or uneducated or any combination of any of the former.
Give me a first person, written, non fictional, not purely literary and purely historical account, just one, of actual dinosaurs living during the middle ages and then get back to me.
You have provided your own delusion, enjoy it while it lasts. You have a “highly stylized” thought process.
:’) Hey, he’s mentioned far too little nowadays.
You need to find somebody to explain to you how to recognize a joke when you see one.
Sorry, Arthur - I’ve never had a sense of humor.
Recognizing you have a problem is the first step on the road to recovery.
There are other questions like the enormous size of the pre-flood plant life.
One theory is that the atmospheric pressure was as much as three times higher due to a protective layer which held a layer of frozen water in the upper atmosphere.
That environment would be like a hyperbaric chamber, which would increase both O2 and CO2.
After the flood, the atmospheric pressure is reduced, growth of both plant and animal life is stunted.
Even if there were dinos on the ark, all the large species would have a tough time surviving.
There are other questions like the enormous size of the pre-flood plant life.
One theory is that the atmospheric pressure was as much as three times higher due to a protective layer which held a layer of frozen water in the upper atmosphere.
That environment would be like a hyperbaric chamber, which would increase both O2 and CO2.
After the flood, the atmospheric pressure is reduced, growth of both plant and animal life is stunted.
Even if there were dinos on the ark, all the large species would have a tough time surviving.
Well it does make for a long-lived story.
It is a little simpler than the bible. It’s not that all dinosaurs drowned. It’s that the fossilized Dino’s died near/in water and the sediment eventually covered them, and thus they became fossilized.
Whales in the desert: Fossil bonanza poses mystery
AP via Phys.org | November 19, 2011 | EVA VERGARA and IAN JAMES
Posted on 11/20/2011 1:41:13 PM PST by Daffynition
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2810199/posts
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Dinos clearly long survived the flood, as they are illustrated on so many post-flood artifacts.
Mokwlembembe is still harassing the people of the Congo too.
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