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Q: So you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

A: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

1 posted on 08/14/2011 7:12:42 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: Clairity
There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant - there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants - not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue.

You don't have to deport them, Sarah.

Just stop giving them jobs and free stuff and they will go home of their own volition.

In other words, have the federal government obey its own laws.

2 posted on 08/14/2011 7:15:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Regulation is government control of capital, and government control of capital is socialism.)
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“A: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. “

That may well be her position now (who knows), but considering that we’re talking October, 2008, she didn’t have much of a choice then, considering who was at the top of the ticket.


3 posted on 08/14/2011 7:16:52 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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people should not be rewarded for violating our laws and our border.
Mexico’s laws are 100 times more draconian!

and you don’t NEED to deport 12 million.
simply STOP giving TAXPAYER money,
to people here ILLEGALLY !!!

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Commentary/2007/06/Look-to-Milton-Open-borders-and-the-welfare-state

“It’s just obvious you can’t have free immigration and a welfare state,”


4 posted on 08/14/2011 7:18:23 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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OMG!!! She’s no better if not worse than St. Rick of Tx!!!

She’s unworthy!


5 posted on 08/14/2011 7:20:20 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Clairity

October 26, 2008.....

Vice-Presidential candidates have to parrot the position of the guy at the top of the ticket....in this case, John McCain.

When Sarah Palin’s first book came out, “Going Rogue,” Sarah was a guest on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show. When Rush asked her about illegal immigration, Sarah said, “They’re called illegal aliens for a reason.”

Let Sarah declare whether or not she’s a candidate for president. If she IS in fact in the race, then she should be asked to clearly state her position concerning the issue of illegal immigration. If she doesn’t run, her position on this subject doesn’t really matter.


6 posted on 08/14/2011 7:20:28 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Obama inherited a mild recession from George W. Bush and turned it into a major depression.)
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She was McCain’s VP candidate and had to hew the McCain line on that issue. VP candidates don’t have their own platform to run on.

You need to ask her now where she stands on immigration, when she is speaking for herself.


7 posted on 08/14/2011 7:21:05 PM PDT by oldbill
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She was McCain’s VP candidate and had to hew the McCain line on that issue. VP candidates don’t have their own platform to run on.

You need to ask her now where she stands on immigration, when she is speaking for herself.


9 posted on 08/14/2011 7:23:27 PM PDT by oldbill
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In all fairness, after having done more research, I also found this.

Sarah Palin Takes Stand on Immigration

May 21, 2010

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah-palin-takes-stand-immigration-controversial-arizona-law/story?id=10707136

“Arizonans have the courage to do what the Obama administration has failed to do in its first year and a half in office, namely secure our border and enforce our federal laws,”

However, to may knowledge, she never repudiated her statement of 2008, when she said she was in favor of giving illegals a path to citizenship, as I quoted earlier.


10 posted on 08/14/2011 7:25:39 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity; Al B.; Virginia Ridgerunner; Brices Crossroads; DJ MacWoW; SoConPubbie; Windflier; ...

You *research* is faulty. Sarah Palin has spoken about illegal immigration several times with Greata, Dean Hannity and FYI, *worried* PDSer, former Governor Sarah Palin and Governor Jan Brewer, AZ have their own website promoting AZ IMMIGRATION LAWS, with which Governor Perry takes issue!

You’re too new here to know that it’s not good to try to *start* forum wars.

This is a conservative site —— the premiere conservative site and forum on the whole of the Internet, and when all the candidates have announced, there will be plenty of time for each one to articulate their very own views! No need to rely on OLD, cherry picked information posted by an pposition camper!

Thanks very much!


13 posted on 08/14/2011 7:28:34 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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While illegal immigration is a hot issue in Arizona, I doubt it was among the 25 top issues for a Governor of Alaska.

(Hey, if you can swim to Alaska from Mexico, nobody can say you took the easy route)


16 posted on 08/14/2011 7:29:46 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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June 1, 2011
Michael Herzenberg
NY1 News and Time Warner Cable Inc.

“The DREAM Act, well see, the immigrants of the past, they had to literally and figuratively stand in line to become U.S. citizens,” said Palin. “I’d like to see that continue, and unfortunately the DREAM Act kind of usurps that, the system.”


17 posted on 08/14/2011 7:29:46 PM PDT by magna carta
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per: http://www.organize4palin.com/immigration/

Immigration
“Let’s respect the hardworking, accomplished legal immigrants who sacrificed much, contributed selflessly, and helped build America into the greatest melting pot on earth! We need to understand the importance of America’s fair immigration laws.” -Facebook post(5/16/2010)

•Supportive of Arizona’s immigration law– first to stand with Governor Brewer “Secure the Border” effort
•Supports sending troops to the U.S. Mexico border and completion of a fence to secure America’s southern border
•Opposed to amnesty for illegal immigrants
•Opposed to the DREAM act
•Opposes boycotts of states who implement state immigration laws
•Supportive of legal immigration
•For more, see here:
•America Apology Tour Continues
•Mr. President, do your job. Secure our border
•Hey Girls, Play Ball
•An Open Letter to Republican Freshmen
•VIDEO: Governor Palin on the DREAM ACT
•VIDEO: How would a President Palin solve the illegal immigration crisis?


27 posted on 08/14/2011 7:41:43 PM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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I really hate the part were she said, “ President Fox’s open borders vision is a vision I can embrace.” Oh, wait... Governor Goodhair said that!!


28 posted on 08/14/2011 7:43:41 PM PDT by allsouthern
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To: Clairity
Perhaps you should update your attacks, eh?

I think every other state on the border should emulate what Arizona has done," she said on FOX News Wednesday night. "Jan Brewer, the governor of Arizona, has taken upon herself, her state government, to do what the feds should have been doing all along and say, 'No, we're going to secure this border.'

"From there, then, once that is taken care of, we can deal with those who are here illegally and we can figure out all that immigration reform that needs to take place. Yes, other states should do what Arizona is doing," she said.

She posted on her Facebook page Tuesday about immigration for the second time in a week.

Photo: Sarah Palin Takes Stand on Immigration: Palin Enters Immigration Debate, After Endorsing Arizona Illegal Immigration Law
David Wallace/The Arizona Republic/AP Photo
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, left, shakes...
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, left, shakes the hand of Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer while speaking at a news conference about border security at the JW Marriott Desert Ridge in Phoenix on Saturday, May 15, 2010. Brewer and Palin blamed President Barack Obama for the state law cracking down on illegal immigration, saying the measure is Arizona's attempt to enforce immigration laws because the federal government won't do it.

"Arizonans have the courage to do what the Obama administration has failed to do in its first year and a half in office, namely secure our border and enforce our federal laws," she wrote. "And as a result, Arizonans have been subjected to a campaign of baseless accusations by the same people who freely admit they haven't a clue about what they're actually campaigning against."

A Palin spokesperson declined to comment for this story.

The former Alaska governor sparked controversy Saturday with her comments at a campaign event for Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer.

"Now this state has enacted a law -- it mirrors the federal law -- which allows police to ask those they otherwise have stopped to provide a driver's license or other verification of legal presence. I think for most American people the reaction to this would be, 'Why haven't the police already been doing that?'" Palin asked the crowd.

She encouraged the Highland Park High School girls basketball team the week before to "go rogue" after school administrators canceled its participation in an Arizona tournament, citing safety concerns and the state's new immigration law.

She later posted on Facebook: "These boycotts of Arizona will not help the state or lead to positive change. Economic and political boycotts of our nation's 48th state will hurt all Arizonans, including all members of the Hispanic community."

Palin's back-to-back flurry of comments marked her public entry into an issue that had not previously been a prominent part of her conservative mix of issues, which included energy, fiscal conservatism and small government.

"She had actually been fairly positive about immigration reform as a vice presidential candidate," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America's Voices, a liberal-leaning immigration reform group that immediately criticized Palin.

"When she decided to embrace the Arizona show-me-your-papers law, we thought it justified criticizing her for embracing a law that institutionalized racial and ethnic discrimination," Sharry said.

A Palin Change of Heart?

As a vice-presidential candidate, Palin told Spanish-language television network Univision during an interview Oct. 26, 2008, "There is no way that in the U.S. we would roundup every illegal immigrant ... there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants. ... Not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue."

Her GOP presidential running mate, Sen. John McCain, had taken a similar stance, arguing for a comprehensive immigration plan, a multi-faceted approach that includes border patrol, a crackdown on illegal hiring, legalizing immigrants already in the United States and creating a more flexible immigration system. The Arizona law and its more stringent provisions were not part of the national debate at the time.

But Palin came out last Saturday in clear support of Arizona's new law, which would be the most robust in the nation in terms of targeting people suspected of being illegal immigrants. The law is set to take effect July 29, barring any successful legal challenges.

Sharry said Palin's comments risk alienating Latino voters, the fastest-growing group of voters, from the Republican Party. Latino voter registration grew 54 percent and turnout grew 64 percent from 2000 to 2008, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

And of course, here's Jimmy Ricks' reply:

"I fully recognize and support a state's right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas," Perry said in a written statement. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/29/texas-governor-arizona-immigration-law-right-texas/#ixzz1V3lmpzvy

But wait, there's more:

PALIN: May 23rd, 2011:

PALIN: The immigrants of the past, they had to literally and figuratively stand in line and follow rules to become U.S. citizens. I’d like to see that continue. And unfortunately, the DREAM Act kind of usurps that-the system that is a legal system to make sure that immigrants who want to be here legally, working hard, producing and supplying revenue and resources for their families, that they’re able to do that right and legally. Unfortunately, the DREAM Act doesn’t accomplish that.

And what did Perry do for illegals in Texas???

Rick Perry Stands By Texas DREAM Act The potential 2012 candidate signed legislation in 2001 allowing some illegal immigrants to pay in-state college tuition.

In sharp contrast to the national Republican Party line, Texas Gov. Rick Perry still supports his state's version of the so-called DREAM Act, which permits foreign-born children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state college tuition. "To punish these young Texans for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about," the potential dark horse GOP candidate told the New Hampshire Union Leader in his first New Hampshire interview of the 2012 campaign cycle.

Yeah, let's reward illegal activity!

And finally, amnesty:

O'Reilly:  So you're President of the United States - Sarah Palin. You send how many National Guards to the border right away to secure it?

Palin: 
However many you need  - this is the top priority. This is a national security issue..

O'Reilly:
  (interrupts) Alright,  but I'm talking  Texas, California,  New Mexico,  all of 'em. So, you send maybe ten , fifteen thousand national guards down there to assist the border control. Yes?

Palin:  Whatever it takes, whatever it takes.

O'Reilly:
  Alright, so you militarize the border, ah, you, you finish the fence. Finish building the fence from Brownsville to San Diego. Yes?

Palin:
Yep.

O'Reilly: Now we have twelve million people staring at you. And you  say to those people, you're in here illegally, you broke civil law - by coming in here. Um, now are you going to deport them? What are you going to do?

Palin:   Well, again, we, first let me go back to the importance of securing the border. If we start talking about amnesty before...

O Reilly (interrupts) No, no, well, we got that, we got that, Governor. Everybody...All Factor people watching this

Palin: (interrupts) No, we don't.

O Reilly (interrupts) Yeah, the people watching this program have it. We have it.  We assume that you  - as president -  would secure the border. I've confidence you would do that. But now you have to look into it. Alright and you've got 12 million people staring at you. What are you going to have them do?

Palin:  You're not going to give them a free pass.You're not going to say - ok -  you and, ah,  anybody else who wants to scree across this porous border between now and when we do finally get it fenced in and physically secure  - we're going to give you a free pass.  And just because you've broken laws in the past  know we can trust you...

O Reilly:
(interrupts) Alright , no amnesty.
 
Palin:  No - no amnesty - which means

O Reilly: (interrupts) But what do you do with these folks? Do you make them register with the federal government? Do you tell them they have sixty days to get outta here before we put you in jail? What  do we do with them?

Palin: Do we make them register with the Federal government? Yes, we do. We have to

O Reilly. (interrupts) Yes,  so we know who they, where they are...

Palin:
Yes, exactly. So in answer to that question, absolutely. We 're not giving them a free pass.  We're not going  to reward the bad behavior.

O Reilly: (interrupts)  Alright, So you don't reward the bad behavior. You make them register with the federal government.  Say you give them sixty days to register with the fed gov., there's a form at the Post Office  they have to send  like a census form, alright.   Say they don't do it? Alright. 

Palin:  You deport them.

O Reilly: (interrupts) Ok so After a period of time, the ones that don't cooperate then  you catch them, they're gone. Now you have these people that register. You are going to have millions of them. Then they register and they say - ok we obeyed what President Palin told us to do -then what? -  do you give them green cards to work right away, what do you do with them?

Palin: You know there has to be that expectation that they will work and that  they will contribute.  Bill, It makes me uncomfortable that we're even going down that path so far when ...

O Reilly: (interrupts)You have to though.

Palin: No, no

O Reilly: (interrupts) You have to go down that path, it's gonna come up.

Palin:  No. American citizens who are -    who are here lawfully -  they need to be  the ones with the  first shot at getting these jobs. We cannot make it easy on those who have chosen to be illegal -  illegally here, to disobey our laws.  No!

O Reilly:  No, we can't make it easy,  but they're here and we can't starve them to death.  And If they can't work, if they don't have a green card to work, ah,  they're gonna be hosed. I mean they gotta pay rent, they gotta buy groceries, this, that and the other thing. I mean this is where it gets very complicated, Governor. You know it gets very, very complicated - because you are rewarding bad behavior. You let them stay in the United States because they came in  illegally.

Palin:  Then let's keep it, then, then we won't complicate it any more. Let's keep it simple. And  let's say no that if you are here illegally,  if you don't follow the steps that  at some point  in immigration reform that we are going to be able to provide that will allow you somehow to be able to work - if you are not going to do that, then  you will be deported. You  will  be gone.

O Reilly:  (interrupts) Ok, we've established that. We've established that though.

Palin: Let's look at case history, let's look at case history. Let's look at what political hero, Ronald Reagan  tried to do with three million illegals all those years ago.

O Reilly: (interrupts) He botched it though governor.  Reagan botched it. He botched it.

Palin: Exactly, that's what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying, so we learn from history. We won't do what, what  he did in that respect in that round.

O Reilly:  No but you're gonna have to - whoever the next president is, is going to have to deal with 12 million people and that is  going to be very, very difficult.

29 posted on 08/14/2011 7:44:52 PM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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1. When a politician is on record as saying the equivalent of:

“I support a path to citizenship but no amnesty for illegals...”

That’s mean they want to continue ignoring the existing immigration and citizenship laws in place and replace with a backdoor amnesty.

2. When a politician is on record as saying the equivalent of:

“You can’t round of ## million illegals and deport them...”

That’s a straw they are setting up and tearing down in the hope that we are stupid enough to be fooled into thinking that getting illegals to leave isn’t feasible.

This is why Palin is just another RINO, CINO and TPINO as far as I am concerned.

=8-)


37 posted on 08/14/2011 7:48:36 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Clairity

GREAT post, Clairity. Thx.


47 posted on 08/14/2011 7:55:50 PM PDT by DRey
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Hey,heres a word to the wise. The next time you feel like comparing Perrys stance on illegals to anyone other than McCain....well, to anybody, dont...Perry will ALWAYS lose, hands down.


50 posted on 08/14/2011 7:57:15 PM PDT by allsouthern
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Gov. Palin supporters vs. Gov. Perry supporters:


64 posted on 08/14/2011 8:03:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Clairity

This can, also, be interpreted as Sarah saying that she’s fine with illegal immigrants who get in line to become legal immigrants and who, from now on, truly obey all of America’s laws that are created for everybody equally in America. A truly colorblind society where everybody throughout the U.S. and throughout all U.S. territories obeys the same set of rules as one group of people is the only way that the U.S. will survive as a capitalistic country and for the long term. No to: amnesty for illegal immigrants, affirmative action, and political correctness, and for always!


77 posted on 08/14/2011 8:10:43 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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Can anyone tell me what exactly Perry has done to secure the border besides sit on his butt and cry to Washington?


84 posted on 08/14/2011 8:16:50 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty
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