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Need Serious Help.
12/1/10 | me

Posted on 12/11/2010 4:28:00 PM PST by NoGrayZone

To make a long story short.... as a child, my brother saw a demon outside our window (back then you had to have the tv by a window because of heat generated). He saw this demon "dancing" around our window. He has been plagued w/ nothing but horror.

Now, in these days, he has over come his demons; however, his first born son has seen this demon, a few months ago, outside his window. His first born son described to him ( at first reluctant that he would not be believed) the same thing my brother saw as a child. My brother was stunned.

We need help. I truly believe in satan and his demons to be as real as we are. What can we do? Who do we turn to?

Some may see this as nonsense, but we are living this in real life. Can anyone help us or at least lead us to someone who can help?


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Conspiracy; Pets/Animals; Religion; UFO's
KEYWORDS: child; demons; inthenameofjesusgo; needserioushelp; prayer; satan; spiritualwarfare
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To: Quix

I’m not claiming people as powerLESS against evil. That would point to absolving oneself from responsibility from actions. I think, as someone stated earlier, a single glance from a major demon or devil would turn a human to dust.


381 posted on 12/12/2010 8:54:55 AM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Right back to you


382 posted on 12/12/2010 9:00:19 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: Williams
What the Hell (pun intended) does a demon achieve by dancing outside your window once when you’re a little kid?

It's straight out of a Sam Raimi horror movie. It's spooooky.

Mind you, I like Sam Raimi horror movies! Evil Dead II, Armies of Darkness and Drag Me to Hell are all loads of fun!

(especially Armies of Darkness)

383 posted on 12/12/2010 9:03:13 AM PST by Abin Sur
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To: j.argese; Cronos; kitkat; Grizzled Bear; Quix; NoGrayZone; metmom; narses; lastchance; roamer_1; ...
6. Blaming tarot cards, Ouija boards or the similar is like blaming the victim for being raped.

Suppose I'm stopping at the grocery store to pick up a carton of milk and a loaf of bread. This should cost less than $20 so I take a twenty out of my wallet and leave my wallet on the driver's seat of my unlocked car, with the windows rolled down. The thief is wrong for stealing my wallet. But I could have taken precautions.

Using a Ouija board is like sending out a mass invitation to anything that happens to be listening. There's a reason God warned against divination.

384 posted on 12/12/2010 9:09:22 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: livius; happygrl

Try visiting the Middle East...


385 posted on 12/12/2010 9:10:41 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Williams
Just bothers me that people jump to the conclusion this is real and will insist on it.

I'm not surprised. This story fits right into their worldview, which is one into which some people invest a lot of time and energy. There are analogous subjects; if someone posted a story which could be taken as "evidence" of faith healing, ghosts, or UFOs you would get people from the camps of those who take such nonsense seriously that would defend the story as the Gospel Truth.

386 posted on 12/12/2010 9:13:56 AM PST by Abin Sur
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To: livius
This is a great insight. I suspect probably all of Europe was like this before Christianity, too. When you read the story of St Patrick, you will see that he released the people from fear - of the druid priests, of the demons they supposedly controlled, and of the whole threatening invisible world. Once Europe was freed from this, it was able to develop intellectually and even materially

The Roman Empire developed Europe intellectually and materially before Christianity.

387 posted on 12/12/2010 9:17:29 AM PST by Abin Sur
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To: NoGrayZone
PineSol removes tough demon stains.


388 posted on 12/12/2010 9:19:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (Lowering Kristinn's IQ since May 21, 1999)
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To: NoGrayZone; potlatch

There is help -

A friend’s husband experienced the same thing, a specter at the window.

They asked around and learned the house and some others had been built on an historic Amerind burial ground.

More research and they found a priest who did exorcisms.

It worked.


389 posted on 12/12/2010 9:27:36 AM PST by Lady Jag (Double your income... Fire the government)
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To: j.argese; Grizzled Bear; NoGrayZone
1. we agree
2. Yes
3. ok
4. True, I agree with you 100% again. you call in the experts
5. Could be, but you check with the experts
6. I'm not seeking to blame -- just saying that whatever caused it, Jesus' name is the cure.

i'm sorry then, I completely lost your basic point about Satan not being afraid of Jesus
390 posted on 12/12/2010 9:31:38 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: metmom

the question here is not blaming but fixing the problem


391 posted on 12/12/2010 9:32:21 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: Grizzled Bear

The wind could also blow the paper money out the windows as well. That being said, precautions should always be taken to protect, property, body or soul, no? Don’t misunderstand my point, there are many traps for the unwary or ignorant but you don’t blame people for unforeseen consequences of their actions. That was my original point and I still stand by it.


392 posted on 12/12/2010 9:35:01 AM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro

ping


393 posted on 12/12/2010 9:46:57 AM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: NoGrayZone

394 posted on 12/12/2010 10:00:40 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: HarleyD

I didn’t suggest they be fearful or chant goofy prayers. If you want to know what I suggest, you can read my comments in this thread. If not, don’t.


395 posted on 12/12/2010 10:38:59 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: al baby

Sounds like the most scientific explanation.

Or, the Boogie Man.


396 posted on 12/12/2010 10:51:57 AM PST by BillyA
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To: NoGrayZone; aculeus; Constitution Day; Charles Henrickson; dead; dighton; Ezekiel; Lazamataz; ...
Some may see this as nonsense

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No amateurs, please.
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Not us. Oh, no.

397 posted on 12/12/2010 11:16:29 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: NoGrayZone
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398 posted on 12/12/2010 11:22:56 AM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: Williams
Been following this thread for awhile, wasn't certain if I wanted to chime in at all ...

From the original post we gather the method in which the child told of his experience:

His first born son described to him ( at first reluctant that he would not be believed)...

And a bit later we read from post #228:

My brother freaked (in his mind) when his young son told him what he saw out the window (as my brother did when he was a young boy).

Shouldn't these statements place a huge red flag on anything related to this story? Little kids can be made to say anything, especially by their parents. The most likely explanation is that the child in question saw something that scared him - perhaps a vagrant or an animal. When his father heard about it he let his fears run wild, and given his life-long morbid fascination with demonology he convinced himself and the child that what was seen was demonic in nature.

That's the most credible explanation because the converse one is simply not. There's no Biblical precedent of anyone ever seeing a demon; they don't have physical form. You think demons get their jollies by dancing a merry jig to frighten small children? Get real. They exist to deceive mankind in whatever way possible to keep them from God. The remainder of the mythology that surrounds their activities needs to be rejected as the nonsense that it is; all the holy water (otherwise known as water), incense, droning incantations, exorcist scam artists need to be put aside. The gospel is intended to free us from such superstitions. Speaking of the Greco-Roman deities Paul had this to say:

"For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for him; and one Lord Jesus Christ."

399 posted on 12/12/2010 11:41:11 AM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Abin Sur

Not at the level of the average population.

Roman religion was a two-tiered thing and was, in any case, not made for export. Roman intellectuals were essentially monotheists in all but name and in fact verged on deism, but the Roman populace were pantheist ancestor-worshippers. However, Rome did not extend either of these two versions of its official religion very much beyond the Roman troops and citizenry stationed in its European outposts.

The British and the Irish were still firmly in the grip of druidic paganism, despite Roman domination of England.

What the Romans did have that they did extend to places they governed was a legal system, and this was the part of romanitas adopted by the Church and joined to the Faith so that the extension of the Christian faith freed people at a personal level and the extension of a stable political system, the rule of law, stabilized (at least in principle) the traditional cultures that Christianity took over.


400 posted on 12/12/2010 11:58:13 AM PST by livius
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