Posted on 07/21/2009 3:42:26 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
In a quest that is seen as wacky, way out there and as bitter partisan politics by some,the issue of Obama not showing his birth certificate to prove he is a naturalized American citizen continues. Is this really just some conspiracy theory along the lines of 9/11 truthers and alien cover ups? At first glance it seems like it. But surprisingly many Americans seem to actually believe there is some possibility of truth in this claim that Obama is not a citizen. WND continues to run stories on it but most recently a congressmans town hall meeting became overwhelmed with the issue.
Many people will immediately jump up and say Obama produced a birth certificate, what more do you want? Apparently Obama provided a certificate of live birth (COLB) which is not the same as a long form birth certificate. The long form birth certificate should provide evidence that can be corroborated. The COLB provided on factcheck.org does not show a hospital, doctors name or anything else that can be checked, just a time and city. This COLB can also be obtained by non citizens.
Obama could easily release his long form birth certificate but hasnt. Just to stop people from talking about it and to show that he has the most transparent administration, you think he would.
Many liberals, moderates and even some conservatives will probably read this and just say get over it already. There is a time to let things go and personally I already have. Not because I dont think its important but because I think Obama will never release this information and even if it is true that he is not a natural citizen, that nothing will change. But should people just get over this? If it is true, it is the biggest scam in history. People never got over Bushs decision to go to war with Iraq, should everyone just forget about this issue?
The argument could easily be made that if Obama does not qualify to be president than all of the bills he signed and executive orders he issued would have to be undone. This is very important but would cause huge upheaval. I dont know if the American people would be able to handle this kind of event and the ramifications of the loss in trust of the government. It doesnt mean the truth shouldnt be fully investigated though but I sincerely doubt it ever will be
The unaudited $750M+ campaign funds will keep the charade going for quite a while - maybe 7.5 more years....
Try to open that wma file.
Correction, I am on every single thread - a bit of an overstatement - poking holes in Birther fairy tales. Like adoption causing Obama to lose his U.S. citizenship or travel to Pakistan being banned, things like that. If you've got a case to make then false information isn't going to do it.
It's not hard. She probably didn't want to be near her parents, who dissaproved of her marriage, and things probably weren't all that great with her hubby needed some time away from him.
Perhaps she was holding out some childish hope that he would change his mind about going back to Africa to marry a black woman, and she would then go back to him in Hawaii and all would live happily ever after. That would account for her friend's comments.
If someone lied on the form, it would have been his step-Dad, not him.
So again, why cant he remember where he met his wife?
I have no clue, and I doubt anyone other than you much cares. Since when is remembering where you met your wife a requirement to be president?
It is a felony to forge a government document. Obama’s COLB looks like a forgery. And take Pelosi too for certifying an illegal Democrat ticket!
I understand where you're coming from I really do. I can even agree with you to a certain extent- this could be a big waste of time on the part of 'our side'; something that could just make us look stupid in the end and we could spend the time better in other ways. Fair enough.
But is it not a benefit to the Commander in Chief to demonstrate this to the public when officers in the military begin to question his legitimacy and refuse to obey his orders during a time of war?
I see that as quite a serious thing. At some point, if this (with the officers) keeps on, he's going to have to address this.
No, she said she was in Kenya while Obama was born in Hawaii.
I linked to a website that has a link to both a transcript and a tape recording. The recording was made by a "bishop" McRae, who last time I checked, is no liberal.
Have you listened to the recording?
Perhaps that is why you keep insisting that this affirmative action bastard be allowed to finish his first term before challenging him in another election.
The wma file will not open. Did you know that?
Why did Obama lie on his application to the Illinois Bar Association?
Why would the liar-in-chief postr a fradulent Internet image of a CoLB prior to the election, claiming it proves he was born in Hawaii?
Nope.
Claimed no former names.
Btw, he has voluntarily RETIRED from the practice of law. I think he will have to pass the bar again to practice.
Michelle is on a court ordered inactive status.
You said — But is it not a benefit to the Commander in Chief to demonstrate this to the public when officers in the military begin to question his legitimacy and refuse to obey his orders during a time of war?
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Well, I don’t know... and I may be mistaken about this idea. But, it’s that I thought that these soldiers were loyal to the Office of President of the United States, as Commander in Chief, and not so much to the person in office.
And that’s why I was thinking that they wouldn’t do anything to de-legitimize the office or the commander’s position, which might create a negative precedent for future office holders in “justifying” one thing or another...
Anyway, that’s how I would be thinking about it — in terms of an “institution” rather than a “man”...
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It’s like this..., it’s an “institution”, we have balance of powers, laws need to be followed, procedures done in certain specified ways, and whatever needs to be changed, have the change done in a predetermined and specified way...
My thinking is sort of a long-range and strategic sort of thinking.
Speaking of pattern of lying, notice the text of post #101 above.
It's possible that there's something embarrassing about how he met his wife that he doesn't want to disclose. So?
And your answer as to why he lied to the Illinois State Bar?
He didn't.
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