Posted on 06/04/2009 9:50:06 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen
LIDDY: You mentioned distractions. One of these distractions right now is these lawsuits that take the position that he is not constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States because he is not a naturally-born citizen. Now, he could clear that up in an instant by producing a genuine birth certificate. And yet he refuses to do it. He says he has one but he won’t do it. What is behind that? Hubris or what?
WOLFFE: Well, I’m going to differ with you on this one. This came up during the campaign. A copy of the birth certificate is out there. Anyone can see it. He was born in Hawaii. There are documents from the state of Hawaii that prove it. I don’t know what else you really expect me to do.
LIDDY: Well, here’s the thing. The document you speak of is a “certificate of live birth,” which is not a birth certificate. You can’t get a passport with that, you can’t even register your kids…
WOLFFE: Yes you can. That’s what I do. That’s what everyone does. The certificate of live birth is exactly what you get a passport with.
LIDDY: No, it’s a birth certificate.
WOLFFE: That’s — the copy of the birth certificate, everyone has copies of birth certificates. They use them all the time. Nobody hands out the one original document.
LIDDY: No, I wouldn’t expect them to.
WOLFFE: When you go to the DMV you take a copy with you. You don’t take the real… and it’s an official copy, it has to be embossed and stamped, it’s not just like a xerox. But that’s what it is, and it’s widely accepted.
LIDDY: Why is it redacted? Why is it redacted?
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thegman@radioamerica.orgG Man
[My copy of your autobiography WILL is yellowed with age and dog-eared from rereading!]
Regarding the ALLEGED birth certificate of B. Hussein Obama, Jr.--it is a fiction represented by a forgery presented on a sedan chair of lies borne by Axelrodian astroturfers.
Ron Polarik has proved this at http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
The image is a complete fabrication; not the scan of any actual hard copy document.
Avail yourself of the months of research by a graphics professional at the link provided; arm yourself to smash the snake oil salesmen.
For truth
That would be good as well. As you said - definitely Karmic justice.
Andrea Shea King has a radio show on Sentinel Radio - she’s also a long-time Freeper.
I went back and was listening to one of her older shows and on it she mentioned the State of Hawaii has plans to name an apartment building as the birthplace of Obama!! An apartment building!!
No hospital, no doctor, no nurse, no birth certificate, no passport info, no selective service registration....but we’ve got an apartment building!!!
The second option and it's called self-preservation.
BHO-Just cough it up and make this go away.
Make it a ZerO, big guy.
It is amazing and disgusting. But your work is out there and it won't be going anywhere. Time will wear away the BS and the truth will remain.
It is true in many states. a COLB requires NO ATTENDING physician or midwife.
In Hawaii in 1961 a COLB was supplied to any parent who made a statement about where their child was born. obama’s COLB has no witnesses, no attending physician, and there was no certification of what is on there except his mother’s statement when she applied.
I read that his sister Maya also has a Hawaii COLB and she was born in Indonesia. Some have speculated obama’s dummy COLB is actually photoshopped from his sister’s. Her father would be listed as Asian- whoever faked his COLB could not bring themselves to use the racial term “negro” and gave father’s race as “African”. That is a ridiculous tipoff.
No doubt obama has a long form birth certificate on file in Hawaii since he was adopted there. On adoption a new birth certificate is produced. His probably names him as Barry Soetero- his legal name-and gives his nationality as Indonesian.
Our 1 son got a passport with a short form, while the others in our family had supplied the long form. All happened on the same visit to the USPS.
Since, I did get a long form of my son’s BC. You have to fill out the form and specifically ask for the long form and pay the appropriate fee. The short form is usually cheaper. But both are available.
Also three living human beings, his paternal grandmother, Sarah Obama, one Bishop Ron McRae, and one of his half brothers say they were present at his birth in Kenya. Not ONE living human being has come forth to claim their place in history and say they were present at the birth of the 44th POTUS birth on US soil. Not ONE doctor, nurse, registrar, clerk, security guard, janitor, visitor, NO ONE. Particularly the birth of a mixed race child with a very unusual name to a 17 year old mother in 1961!!!! But this is just another of the incredible series of coincidences that one must accept if one wishes to believe that Hussein is on the legit.
I worked as a cop for 25 years. The principle of Occam’s razor worked for me most of the time. It also applies in this case as well. (When multiple competing hypotheses are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the hypothesis that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities. It is in this sense that Occam’s razor is usually understood.)
To straightforwardly summarize the principle as it is most commonly understood, “The simplest explanation for a phenomenon is most likely the correct explanation.” That explanation is that if the information on Hussein’s BC becomes public, it will be seen that he is constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS.
A "Certificate of Live Birth" is a different document than a "Certification of Live Birth." The former is commonly known as a birth certificate or BC. The latter is what is commonly referred to as a COLB and what has been shown on the internet for 0bama. The problem being (apart from Polarik showing that it was created out of whole cloth) that a Certification of Live Birth in Hawaii can be issued for babies not born in Hawaii.
Mcaain: both parents US citizens with father serving in the military. Wife deployed with husband outside the US. He is according to the Consttution, automatically a citizen. But is he a natural born citizen since he was not born on the typically recognized US soil? It has been argued that the location in Panama was considered at the time to be American property/soil? Recall the fuss when Carter gave the Panama Canal away? He could not have given it away were it not ours to give away. Right? McCain’s birth is complicated, and not specifically addressed in the Constitution TTBOMK. However, upon proper consideration by our founders, under the circumstances of McCain’s birth, I am covinced they would have amended the Constitution to exempt US military as well as US citizens serving American interests abroad.
Jindal on the otherhand: If both his parents, were at the time of his birth on US soil, were themselves US citizens, then he would be a natural born citizen. If they were not yet US citizens at the time of his birth, then he is not by definition, a natural born citizen, and therefore , he is unConstitutionally ineligible to serve as POTUS.
Where does the Constitution say that?
It has been argued that the location in Panama was considered at the time to be American property/soil?
But it was not. The 14th Amendment didn't apply there in that if a Panamanian couple gave birth in the Canal Zone their child was not a U.S. citizen. Of any kind. Besides, McCain wasn't born in the Zone.
Recall the fuss when Carter gave the Panama Canal away? He could not have given it away were it not ours to give away. Right?
The U.S. had control over the zone through treaties signed in 1903. Carter gave up that control. The Zone was never considered part of the U.S.
However, upon proper consideration by our founders, under the circumstances of McCain’s birth, I am covinced they would have amended the Constitution to exempt US military as well as US citizens serving American interests abroad.
They didn't need to. Congress has the authority to decide who is a natural born citizen and who is not. McCain was a natural born citizen because the law said he was.
Jindal on the otherhand: If both his parents, were at the time of his birth on US soil, were themselves US citizens, then he would be a natural born citizen.
They were not. Neither had been in the U.S. long enough to qualify for citizenship when Jindal was born. But per the 14th Amendment Jindal is a natural born citizen because he was born in the U.S.
A real quick bumparoonie !!
(before I head out for the day). :)
I know, and noted as such in my reply 94. Regardless, McCain is a natural born U.S. citizen by virtue of both his parents being U.S. citizens.
Wouldn’t have been painful enough for him.
Who Liddy?
No. Wait. I forgot. He was actually convicted for burglary.
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