Posted on 06/04/2009 9:50:06 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen
LIDDY: You mentioned distractions. One of these distractions right now is these lawsuits that take the position that he is not constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States because he is not a naturally-born citizen. Now, he could clear that up in an instant by producing a genuine birth certificate. And yet he refuses to do it. He says he has one but he wont do it. What is behind that? Hubris or what?
WOLFFE: Well, Im going to differ with you on this one. This came up during the campaign. A copy of the birth certificate is out there. Anyone can see it. He was born in Hawaii. There are documents from the state of Hawaii that prove it. I dont know what else you really expect me to do.
LIDDY: Well, heres the thing. The document you speak of is a certificate of live birth, which is not a birth certificate. You cant get a passport with that, you cant even register your kids
WOLFFE: Yes you can. Thats what I do. Thats what everyone does. The certificate of live birth is exactly what you get a passport with.
LIDDY: No, its a birth certificate.
WOLFFE: Thats the copy of the birth certificate, everyone has copies of birth certificates. They use them all the time. Nobody hands out the one original document.
LIDDY: No, I wouldnt expect them to.
WOLFFE: When you go to the DMV you take a copy with you. You dont take the real and its an official copy, it has to be embossed and stamped, its not just like a xerox. But thats what it is, and its widely accepted.
LIDDY: Why is it redacted? Why is it redacted?
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonindependent.com ...
Sorry, missed your Colon reference when I skimmed.
He was? I didn’t know that. Link?
Here’s a link to Liddy’s commutation from Jimmy Carter.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=7345
Kinda a suck commutation in as much as it left the fine intact. The convictions were for burglary and illegal wiretapping.
Indeed! Very quick!
I haven’t read the entry but they should have sources for everything.
I should have checked there. Wiki is even a little pull-down-and-search-thing (what do you call those?) in the corner of FireFox.
bump!
In this Clinto-Orwellian world...
No, in the world of legal distinctions created by legislatures and bureaucracies. This isn’t even a question it is a simple matter of fact.
Don’t fall for it; it is not true.
A certificate (noun) is a certification, or a group of certifications of conjoined relevance, placed on a document.
OK. Whatever.
You were arguing terminology.
Obviously what they call a Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii differs from every other state. No other state produces what Hawaii does; in all others, the hospital data sheet is reproduced in the document that they issue.
So, in short, what I was saying is fact (and Hawaii is dreamland for scoff-laws).
And they use different terminology to distinguish between those different types of documents. So, I was right. I have no idea what point you were trying to make.
Mostly, my point is that saying that you can’t get a passport with a certificate of live birth will cause most people to disregard the factual points that you make, since that is exactly the document that most people present to get their passport.
Well, you have a strange way of agreeing with me. lol
The issue is not going away until it is resolved.
My double mantra:
What is he Hiding and Why?
and
Does the Constitution still matter?
A lot of data out there on the issue.
Do your research and see what you think.
My 2 cents here: http://www.reagan.com/forum/view_thread.cfm?postid=1101&forum=38&category=25
Pass it on. . .
Now we know, no prob. getting someone or several someones to commit and abet treason. If you tried to enlist in the Army and spent million$ to keep from showing your birth cert.,,,,,Hmmm
Liddy needs to inform himself more. He could have done much better.
Glad to hear that we are being vindicated. Thank you, Meek. =]
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