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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: upcountry miss

Well, almost...

You Pollard when you cut it back to one main stem.

Yes, that is what’s know as coppice. Your production of wood per acre increases greatly when you don’t cut those extra shoots.

Standard practice is to cut the first year growth (I use them for additional plantings - either poles or cuttings. I have done both, and since about 95% of the 8” cuttings root and grow great.) that way you get multiple shoots put up for the second and subsequent years growth.

Right now I am growing two different hybrids DN34 and OP367 Both do great around here - actually those two do well in most of the U.S.. I also have a New Zealand Willow Hybrid that does pretty well... I even sell some of the cuttings for windbreaks around chicken houses (they grow about 2.6 million chickens around here per week)- I do it more for hobby than profit... at 20¢ an 8” cutting, it adds up.

Black Cherry makes a good fire... The poplars burn a bit faster and are only about 75-80% as high a heat producers.

I envy you all up there with all the seaweed. We don’t have that much around here. I used to collect dead horseshoe crabs and run them through a hammermill, but they limit that now and you have to have special permits... they say the birds might not get enough to eat.

On the seeds, I just got the three that were backordered. They must really be busy about now...

Get a good nights sleep... Those muscles will be all rested and ready to go in a day or two...


5,021 posted on 03/18/2009 6:25:36 PM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: MHGinTN

Copied AND bookmarked.<<<

Now we know the name of the plan he is following.


5,022 posted on 03/18/2009 6:35:38 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

When I first saw it, I had to really laugh at some of them.

Yep, the proctologist named em right...


5,023 posted on 03/18/2009 6:36:29 PM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I suspect he is following a plan a bit larger than the Cloward-Piven strategy. He is on course to destroy the capitaslism process in America and likely around the world, like dominoes. Such a lareg scaled plan smacks of Soviet planning, not just some affirmative action fraud like Barry Obama.


5,024 posted on 03/18/2009 6:40:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Eagle50AE

>>>Yes.. No-code required .<<<

Hmmm, not even for a General? I thought that only applied to the Technician... But it has been many many years since I checked that...

Actually code was my no-brainer... Morse Intercept Operator in the Army.


5,025 posted on 03/18/2009 6:40:35 PM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: Eagle50AE

During a hyperinflation, the majority of the population who counted on the scrip they were forced to deal with and save can only feel angry desperation as all their savings turn to ashes practically overnight.<<<

It is working, the middle class vanished and now we have poor and rich.

Junk found set out for the trash man, has more value than a dollar.

Free Cycle is a winner.


5,026 posted on 03/18/2009 6:45:18 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

As The One - Øbama - has been trying to get the support of medical practitioners for his new socialized Universal Health Care...<<<

LOL, written to bring out emotion, as I have cussed, cried and wondered what the doctor really things.


5,027 posted on 03/18/2009 6:47:35 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

An excellent planting chart...Thanks for posting it.


5,028 posted on 03/18/2009 6:48:17 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Now that is one great chart! Copying that one to file, also.


5,029 posted on 03/18/2009 6:51:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: DelaWhere
No Code for about 4 years now...even Extra.. done away with 20wpm ,

I love code btw... sometimes when voice or packet cant cut through the noise ,,, code will..

congrats on your mso, if they still call it that..

5,030 posted on 03/18/2009 7:48:40 PM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: yorkie

ping


5,031 posted on 03/18/2009 7:55:01 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: CottonBall

I’m afraid you are right. The libs stop at nothing to get their way - not even when the people disagree by a huge majority. So much for being ‘representatives.’<<<

I do not know how to get their attention, some of the time, I am sure they are all drug fried brains.


5,032 posted on 03/18/2009 8:18:46 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Eagle50AE

5 MINUTE CHOCOLATE MUG CAKE<<<

It is a sin to invent something that is instantly available and not on one’s diet.

LOL, that is a joke, my diet is “it it stays still long enough to catch it, it is dinner.”


5,033 posted on 03/18/2009 8:20:42 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: MHGinTN

He is on course to destroy the capitaslism process in America and likely around the world, like dominoes. Such a lareg scaled plan smacks of Soviet planning, not just some affirmative action fraud like Barry Obama.<<<

You know that I agree with you.


5,034 posted on 03/18/2009 8:27:27 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: pandoraou812

welcome to the thread, thank you for coming to read and join in if you like.


5,035 posted on 03/18/2009 8:28:07 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Thank you for having me. I have been reading up on salting meat. When I get some good links I will post them on the new thread.


5,036 posted on 03/18/2009 8:32:48 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: All

US-CERT Current Activity

Adobe Releases Security Bulletin

Original release date: March 18, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Last revised: March 18, 2009 at 4:39 pm

Adobe has released security bulletin APSB09-04 to address multiple
vulnerabilities, one of which is the JBIG2 vulnerability originally
addressed in security advisory APSA09-01 and security bulletin
APSB09-03. These vulnerabilities may allow an attacker to execute
arbitrary code or cause a denial-of-service condition.

US-CERT encourages users to review Adobe security bulletin APSB09-04
and apply any necessary updates. Additional information regarding the
JBIG2 vulnerability can be found in the Vulnerability Notes Database.

Relevant Url(s):
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/905281

http://www.adobe.com/go/apsa09-01

http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb09-04.html

http://www.adobe.com/go/apsb09-03/


This entry is available at
http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#adobe_releases_security_advisory


5,037 posted on 03/18/2009 9:42:54 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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Interviews with Jac - audio files.
Jac Smit, the ‘Father of Urban Agriculture’ is the pioneer who virtually created
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“Urban Agriculture” grew out of Jac’s term paper at Harvard University. Then, while
working in India for the Ford Foundation, Jac had a chance to put his ideas into
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Jac explains how he was ‘farming’ in third grade, and that interest drove him through
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5,038 posted on 03/18/2009 9:47:12 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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5,039 posted on 03/18/2009 9:49:12 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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5,040 posted on 03/18/2009 10:54:27 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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