Posted on 10/10/2008 7:04:45 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
I'm starting this thread to counter act the surrender threads currently out there. I wasn't at today's McCain rally in Minnesota. I only see what the MSM packages for me to see, which I suspect was intended to demoralize.
I choose not to be demoralized. And I ask that those of you who are going wobbly to stop it. I will still gladly vote for McCain/Palin.
You need to tell McCain now is not the time to go wobbly.
Between highlighting Obama’s inexperience and constantly airing the Reverend Wright tape, Hillary Clinton showed that Obama can be defeated at the ballot box.
I’d recommend that people go back and look at the threads leading up to the 2004 election which “assured” us of a Kerry landslide.
On top of that, Zogby and others were offering “exit polls” that told the same thing.
The media pushed this tally for the first 7minutes of the election night coverage “with 0% of precincts reporting” said on ALL networks how Bush had lost because, like his father “it’s the economy, stupid”, “another one term president”.
It soon became aparent just how off the “polls” had been.
When you cook the books, remember to know just how much you stole.
Yes, I’m a big Rush fan. Rush agrees with me.
Lord Denoreth = Denethor, sheesh!
Here is a lengthy thread, something more than just a disection of this editorial/column by one of Roger Ebert’s co-horts, I ended up using it as a dumping ground for a recap of the 2004 election cycle. Plenty of links to old threads and things we forgot.
Hold in there. On election day in 2004, Rush was telling listeners to NOT get in the dumps about the bogus exit poll numbers that were circulating. I want to know what the Democrats INTERNAL polling numbers are.
Jim Emerson: On celebrities, Politics, and movie critics (shilling for Roger Ebert)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1273094/posts
Chicago Sun Times ^ | October 14, 2004 | Jim Emerson, Editor of RogerEbert.com
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 6:59:04 PM by weegee
Also, I coined a term last time:
ZOGBYISM:
Zogbyism will forever more be the term for a leftist media snowjob designed to sway public opinion.
example: “The Zogbyism in this campaign almost gave John Kerry an unearned victory.”
“The media’s rampant Zogbyism night after night with forged memos and DNC coordinated smears drove many conservative voters to the polls in a defiant statement of ‘Hell, no! We want Bush!’”
I hit upon it after reading this thread:
ZOGBY’s DELUSIONS
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1270705/posts?
Zogby ^
Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:11:46 PM by golch1979
Polling firm Zogby International accurately predicted President Bush’s Ohio victory, as well as the defeat of Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle in South Dakota, and accurately forecast the outcome of every Senate race in our final battleground poll, conducted October 29 through November 1, 2004. The margin of error was +/- 4.1 percentage points.
PRESIDENTIAL VOTE -2004
STATE BUSH KERRY
CO-Actual 53% 46% CO-Zogby 49% 47%
FL-Actual 52% 47% FL-Zogby 48% 48%
IA-Actual 50% 49% IA-Zogby 45% 50%
MI-Actual 48% 51% MI-Zogby 46% 52%
MN-Actual 48% 51% MN-Zogby 45% 51%
NV-Actual 51% 48% NV-Zogby 50% 45%
NM-Actual 50% 49% NM-Zogby 48% 51%
OH-Actual 51% 49% OH-Zogby 49% 43%
PA-Actual 49% 51% PA-Zogby 46% 50%
WI-Actual 49% 50% WI-Zogby 45% 51%
** Zogby FINAL Oct. 29-Nov. 1, MOE +/- 4.1
SENATE RACES
DASCHLE THUNE SD-Actual 49% 51% SD-Zogby 46% 48% Oct 25-26 MOE +/- 3.5
SALAZAR COORS CO-Actual 51% 47% CO-Zogby 52% 44% Oct 29-Nov 1 MOE +/- 4.1
MARTINEZ CASTOR FL-Actual 50% 48% FL-Zogby 48% 43% Oct 29-Nov 1 MOE +/- 4.1
GRASSLEY SMALL IA-Actual 70% 28% IA-Zogby 69% 20% Oct 29-Nov 1 MOE +/- 4.1
REID ZISER NV-Actual 61% 35% NV-Zogby 57% 34% Oct 29-Nov 1 MOE +/- 4.1
VOINOVICH FINGERHUT OH-Actual 64% 36% OH-Zogby 56% 32% Oct 29-Nov 1 MOE +/- 4.1
SPECTER HOEFFEL PA-Actual 53% 42% PA-Zogby 53% 32% Oct 29-Nov 1 MOE +/- 4.1
FEINGOLD MICHELS WI-Actual 56% 44% WI-Zogby 58% 38% Oct 29-Nov 1 MOE +/- 4.1
See this thread also:
Statement from John Zogby on 2004 Presidential Election Results (CYA spin)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1268922/posts
Zogby ^ | 11/3/04 | John Zogby
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25:29 PM
We feel strongly that our pre-election polls were accurate on virtually every state. Our predictions on many of the key battleground states like Ohio and Florida were within the margin of error. I thought we captured a trend, but apparently that result didnt materialize.
We always saw a close race, and a close race is what weve got. Ive called this the Armageddon Election for some timea closely-divided electorate with high partisan intensity on each side.”
(more from Zogby coming soon )
If people refuse to vote for McCain because he’s not perfect, then they are helping to damn us to 4 years of Obamanation. Whether they sit it out or “send a message” (that no one but Obama is hearing) by being holier than thou and voting for an obscure third party candidate.
Thanks a lot!
The MSM is in Obama’s pocket, the pollster are kept creatures, and hard core leftists and their dependents aren’t going to change. But there are plenty of uncertains who can be influenced. And conservative need to FIGHT voter fraud in any way possible.
Suppose soldiers and generals in WW2 had been eunuchs and wimps and quivered with fear without fighting? Supposed the fighers in the Revolutionary war had this defeatist attitude? The odds looked bad,they could have given up before victory.
Obama is the worst man to run for the office of President in the history of the nation. He has to be defeated.
McCain did not surrender.
I am steadfast, determined and deliberate. We must have a Republican in the White House the other choice will change the Supreme Court.
Do not go wobbly. Vote Republican.
Gave me chills too! I love that part. I don’t know how many times I’ve read those books.
In fact I commented today or yesterday (somewhere) using the example of the fight at Helm’s Deep as a reason why conservatives should not go wobbly and defeatist.
The analogy with Helm’s Deep is inappropriate.
At least the folks at Helm’s Deep were led by a brave leader who stuck to his guns until the very end.
Unlike McQueeg.
Have you watched the rallies? They have an outstanding crowd, more than Obama’s. Do not let the naysayers get you down. All is well.
Stratergy is what is happening.
The general analogy is appropriate. Help can come from unexpected quarters. and remember Theoden was a weakling enthralled by Saruman’s black magic.
Keep in mind he said it on the cuff after someone asked him a question. Sure it was not a good answer and most disagree with it. But don’t over react to it. McCain is not exactly what we wanted but he is better than the alternative.
If he really believed that, McCain would not be posting all of these increasingly effective ads.
Eh? Helms Deep happened AFTER Gandalf removed Saruman’s curse.
We need to remove McCain’s RINO curse somehow :)
Track Palin in 2024!
I couldn’t imagine what it would be like making 1 - sometimes 2 campaign stops a day, the traveling, the noise, the speeches, saying the same thing, yet trying hard to be fresh each time. I couldn’t imagine doing that at 72.
When we learn that 70M people watched the VP debate, yet supposedly Sarah “lost” — something doesn’t jive. I think Sarah is drawing larger crowds than the 0bomination
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