Posted on 08/25/2008 4:20:50 AM PDT by Soliton
In June, Governor Brad Henry vetoed the “Religious Viewpoints Antidiscrimination Act,” a piece of legislature authored by Sen. James Williamson and infamous fundamentalist Rep. Sally Kern.
If passed, this bill would have, among other things, guaranteed that “students may express their beliefs about religion in homework, artwork and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious content of their submissions.”
You read that correctly.
Answer on a test that the universe began 6,000 years ago with a few words from the mouth of an invisible, magical entity rather than 13.73 billion years ago with the expansion of energy from gravitational singularity? A-plus!
So it might have been if Gov. Henry hadn’t interceded. I’d like to tell Henry: Thank you from the bottom of my heart, and God bless you.
And to those of you who weren’t kicking up a fuss about the bill or at least complaining about it on your blogs: What were you thinking?
This isn’t the first time Kern and those like her have tried to insinuate superstitious nonsense into the curriculum of our state’s children, and it certainly won’t be the last.
Some of you may be too busy to follow each shot fired in the battle between the proponents of intelligent design the nom de guerre behind which creationism usually hides when its proponents seek to incorporate it into educational curricula — and its detractors.
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Have all the churches closed too?
You bring up a good point. I am certain of one thing — our education system is broken. And grant-hungry scientists are discredited.
Parents need more freedom to decide how their children are educated. The government run system has brought a new meaning to the word, ‘Failure’.
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"Pastor Gino Geraci, whose church was just three blocks from Columbine and who had the opportunity, as a police chaplain, to be at the scene while the killing rampage unfolded, ..... recounted the conversation he had with a high-ranking official in the Columbine school district right after the shooting had stopped.
Weeping, this educator asked Pastor Geraci why such a tragedy could happen.
Gino had to tell him that his schools “have taught our children that they come from nowhere, and that is where they’re going, and that life is a point of pain in a meaningless existence. And they believed you.”"
Did you ever say that the earth was 6000 years old in a science paper?
Saying that the findings of scientists in the intelligent design field aren’t valid because some creationists have written about it is like saying that GOP tax policy is a plan of the worldwide Jewish cabal because an orthodox Jewish banker worte an op-ed supporting it.
If NASA finds evidence that seems to support creationism (or at least call the current cosmology into question) and Ken Hamm puts it on his website, does that mean we have to scrap the space program because it’s a missionary organization?
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Bears repeating. Follow the money.
“Have all the churches closed too?”
All the churches I’ve heard about charge thousands of dollars for their school programs. Parents would have to pay twice. That suggestion stinks. Sorry.
Good on you, sir.
There have been no scientific findings in support of ID as admitted under oath by Michael Behe himself
Sunday School is free
Carolyn
My guess, unlike yours at least makes sense!
Is this all you do, Soliton? Is it your mission to express hatred for God and those who follow Him? Such a small, sorry life it must be to have made it your goal to denounce faith in Christ.
It’s never too late to recognize your darkened heart and turn to the Lord, asking Him for forgiveness and a new life. Never too late, that is, as long as you humbly turn to Him for grace and mercy prior to your being judged by Him following your death. May you find your pain and suffering and cynical bitterness so unbearable that you turn to Him soon, and find life.
Thanks!
I have nothing against God or sincere believers. I have a problem with the villification of men and their scientific method. Science has done more for mankind than all of the superstitious beliefs since the dawn of time.
“Did you ever say that the earth was 6000 years old in a science paper?”
Never failed a paper or course over it in California public schools.
And I still say it.
And it is what our seven children learned and believe.
it is Biblical; and the TRUTH.
It is faith and that is fine, but it isn't science. No wonder the California Schools have such a high drop out rate.
The issue looked to be how students are, or are not, free to express their views in their assignments. Are they, or are they not, free?
My biology teachers were Darwinists. They taught evolution. They knew that I understood the material that they taught, and they didn't see how failing me for my responses would help me.
I had a wonderful time throughout, citing the textbooks as being books of faith and hope, not science.
“Scientists believe that . . . “
“Scientist conjecture that . . . “
“Scientists hope to prove that . . . “
I turned in a review of my Junior-year biology text book with more than 160 quotations with words just like those, and the teacher, a Ph.D. from Texas A&M (waiting for a slot to open for him at Cal State, Hayward) accepted it as a worthwhile report. It proved I had well-studied the textbook and knew its contents.
In that report, for illustration purposes, I included an equal number of quotations I recorded from a 90 minute lecture on evolution I attended on my own at Chabot College, and paralleled the subject matter and the quotations with those in the texbook.
I also included transcripts from three consecutive Sunday morning sermons preached at Huntwood Baptist Church in Hayward, and demonstrated that the words “believe” and “hope” (e.g. “hope to prove smth.”) are used as often, or more often by the evolution “preachers” I sat under as/than used by that Christian pastor who was a creationist.
My conclusion was that the California state textbook used (1972) was a book promoting FAITH and HOPE in a system. The report got shown to the entire science department at the high school, and I was quite popular, never openly ridiculed (although a lot of humor was created -- not necessarily at my expense). Several teachers (evolutionists) told me that they wished their students would at least read the textbooks that thoroughly.
They should be free to express their religious views, but they should not be given credit for being wrong on a science test because of them.
I was never proven wrong. They just had faith and hope that they are right.
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