Posted on 04/30/2021 4:08:06 PM PDT by Ektelon
I am on the Board at a local dog club. We have many club members that are asking in classes or other occasions if other club members present are vaccinated. A few times I've been close by and said out loud "that is private medical information and you can't ask that" at which point the person usually sheepishly says they "were only kidding" (right!).
One of the venue organizations that puts on trials locally recently put this out on their site: "Clubs, Judges and or Exhibitors are not permitted to require, determine eligibility, or ask about exhibitors' vaccinations in such a way that it may be felt discriminitory or an invasion of their medical privacy to those who have or have not been vaccinated."
I'd love to propose our club having such a policy at our next board meeting BUT all but one or two on the board are liberal (mask nazi's also!) and will see nothing wrong with vaccination queries being asked by others.
I've already tried talking with one of them and they saw NOTHING wrong with people asking, didn't see that it was private information since "it's so contagious" and flat out said this wouldn't be an issue if everyone just got their vaccination.
So....I'm looking for some good suggestions and information that I can counter with. I need my ducks in a row before I present this!
but don’t ask legal status or for voter id... /spit
“I’d love to propose our club having such a policy at our next board meeting BUT all but one or two on the board are liberal (mask nazi’s also!) and will see nothing wrong with vaccination queries being asked by others.”
Tell them it is illegal and violates health privacy laws.
Tell them they can ask that as much as they can ask if someone had an abortion or AIDS or herpes etc...
That’s not how HIPAA works at all. HIPAA applies only to covered entities, it doesn’t apply at all to non covered entities. There also isn’t a private right of action under HIPAA. You have to file a complaint and it’s up to the government to investigate and deal with it.
Good luck with that.
HIPAA is toothless.
The very idea of a vaccine mandate or vaccine passports are fundamentally unAmerican. However, HIPAA isn’t your savior here.
Just say “ I am protected “\>>>>>>
That would get them cranked for sure. LOL
Still and all, shake the magic legal stick at em and see if they fold.
Yep.
If you are vaccinated, YOU are immune. Stop worrying about everyone else.
HIPPA regulations make it illegal to inquire about other peoples medical conditions. Please, don’t make me involve the authorities.
It’s Friday, I’m tired like everyone who works, & I’m waiting for the hub to come home with pizza. You made me laugh out loud. Now I have the energy to pour some wine. Thanks!
This is my favorite part of throwing back the scolds onto their heels. I usually tell them, “Did you know that medical information for private citizens is covered by statute and regulated by the ADA (Americans With Disabilities Act) and that it is a federal offense to compel people to reveal their condition?”
“Did you know that you could be charged for harassment, discrimination, or even retaliation just for asking my status?”
It never goes beyond that point and people tent to give me wide berth.
Yes, I agree. It is routinely violated, by insurance companies, and now political operatives. No surprise at all.
I have witnessed this firsthand. But, if someone in upper bureaucracy wishes it, you can get fired for an infraction.
I agree. We live in a world now here Truth is “whatever I say it is”. HIPPA protects me because I say it does. If anyone wants to challenge me on that, I say “I think I know the law better than you do”. If they want to pursue, I say “I’ve won the argument. Give it up. You’re just embarrassing yourself.”
Does HIPPA protect me? Do I know anything about the law? HA! Not likely! Does not matter. I declare victory and move on. That’s power. Seize the power.
Reply: “Are You Now or Have You Ever Been a Member of the Communist Party?”
Wham! Game, set and match
“You have to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well do ya, punk?”
Just respond: if they believe their spouse cheated on them?
That’ll shut them up quick.
“Are you immune from HIPAA violations?”
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Actually, most people trolling abut for this information are not subject to HIPAA.
Just say, “Yes”. No need to say it’s the shingles or pneumonia vaccine.
I am vaccinated against all known and unknown diseases—thanks for asking!
;-)
(while you give them the middle finger behind your back....)
“Have you had your colonoscopy yet?”
“Have you had your mammogram this year?”
“How’s your bladder doing today?”
“When are you going to get your prostate exam?”
“Have you had your annual pap smear done yet?”
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