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Obama Can’t Prove He’s American
drkates view ^ | December 28, 2010 | drkate

Posted on 01/02/2011 1:00:02 PM PST by opentalk

Notwithstanding Obama’s lack of constitutional eligibility for the office he occupies as a direct result of his father’s citizenship, Obama can’t even prove he is an American. In fact the only thing we can confirm about Obama is that he is a foreigner–foreign to America, foreign to the english language, and ignorant of our history. At this late date, after millions of dollars spent, people mysteriously dying, and the jailing of a decorated Army officer–all of whom questioned Obama’s legality–any so called ‘birth certificate’ produced now is nothing more than suspect, and it is more than likely another faked document…a worthless piece of paper just like all of Obama’s so called ‘credentials’.

We know Obama was born British, is likely a Kenyan citizen, and is Indonesian; we know he was never naturalized as an American citizen; we know there is no record of his name change from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama, II; we know he lied on his Illinois bar form about his previous names; we know he is using a stolen social security number, and that he has multiple social security numbers, and we know that Obama has a forged selective service registration.

Who does this kind of stuff except an illegal alien?

One of the things Obama cannot prove is that he is an American. He won’t release anything and asks us to believe him…as he robs our savings, our livelihood and our America.

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To: DJ MacWoW; TNTNT

Ooops, she forgot the authorized propaganda.


221 posted on 01/03/2011 4:51:38 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; TNTNT

Oh darn, troll doesn’t want to talk to us now.
It’s pretty sad when a troll gets caught out there like that and cannot even admit they were wrong.
How about it TNTNT?
Can you admit you are wrong?
When even Zero’s WIFE admits he’s not from here, there is an issue.


222 posted on 01/03/2011 5:03:18 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; TNTNT

http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/hlaw:@field%28DOCID+@lit%28fr003452%29%29
Index citing Vattel during the founders debate.
http://rs6.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwfr.html
The debates as a whole [searchable].
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2499410/posts
Thread on FR about it.
Vattel is the source used to define Natural Born in the U.S.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/stevesharp2918/VattelsNBC-LawofNations-citizenS.jpg
“Those born in the country of PARENTS who are citizens. As a society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citiens, those children naturally follow the condition of their FATHERS and succeed to all their rights..” Vattell “Law of Nations.”


223 posted on 01/03/2011 5:19:57 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare; TNTNT

They don’t debate. They spew the party line. I don’t debate them anymore. They get zotted and come back spewing the same mindless talking points. Everyone with a brain knows Obama is ineligible and he’s there because of powerful interests that are using him.


224 posted on 01/03/2011 5:22:12 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; TNTNT

Yes, and as with any tool, once he is no longer of use to them...

SO, Tntnt, what was your previous handle here?


225 posted on 01/03/2011 5:25:07 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: bareford101

Every truth has a price.


226 posted on 01/03/2011 5:26:12 PM PST by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
you obviously do not know what you are talking about. Born in the USA = Natural born citizen. Your argument would prevent a Jewish person from becoming President, tell that to the millions of jews in this country that none of them can become President. This crackpot birther theory makes no sense when carried to it's logical conclusion. Tell me the name of one conservative constitutional legal foundation who agrees with ‘junk’ legal theory. It is the legal equivalent of junk science.

Btw, This is the first time I have ever registered at FreeRepublic. I found this website while following the Lakin court martial.

227 posted on 01/03/2011 5:28:19 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: TNTNT

Not according to the founders who cited Vattel.
Yes, FReepers do know what they are talking about.
It is liberals who want to redefine the Constitution as a ‘living document’ subject to reinterpretation to suit whatever idealogical whim they have next who don’t know what they are talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
“Home country of Kenya” -Michelle Obama..


228 posted on 01/03/2011 5:32:58 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare
I think I will listen to the father of the US Constitution, James Madison, before I listen to some Swiss philosopher regarding the definition of a term contained in the foundational document for the rule law in this country, the US Constitution.
229 posted on 01/03/2011 5:33:29 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: TNTNT

Madison was only ONE of those who helped build that document I swore to protect and defend from any and all enemies both foreign and domestic.
And the source cited for Natural Born was Vattel.


230 posted on 01/03/2011 5:35:16 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: TNTNT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
“When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country of Kenya..” -Michelle Obama.


231 posted on 01/03/2011 5:37:54 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare
If you think that snippet is going to sway anybody’s opinion outside of birthdom, you are delusional. I am now grasping the reasons why birthers have lost every law suit, even the one that actually went to trial
232 posted on 01/03/2011 5:39:39 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: TNTNT

If you think Michelle Obama repeatedly slipping up and stating he’s a Kenyan isn’t significant, then you are a bigger fool than Janet “the border has never been safer” Napolitano.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx3-MGHFXkc
“somebody like Barack Obama, A Kenyan..” -Michelle Obama -2007.


233 posted on 01/03/2011 5:41:49 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: TNTNT

By the way cupcake, if his home country is Kenya, he’s point blank ineligible.
Michelle repeatedly states that it is his home country, and she’d know being married to him.
Natural born citizen means both his parents need to be U.S. citizens.
Barack Obama Sr was not a U.S. citizen, and his mom couldn’t convey citizenship herself.
And I note that you have ignored everything posted to you in its entirety.


234 posted on 01/03/2011 5:45:36 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: TNTNT
Born in the USA = Natural born citizen.

So any Mexican kid born to two illegals can be President? I'm sure the Founders risked all they had and their very lives in order to hand it over to someone with divided loyalties. Use your head once in awhile.

There are records that show they used Vattel's Law of Nations when writing the Constitution so you lose.

Your argument would prevent a Jewish person from becoming President, tell that to the millions of jews in this country that none of them can become President.

What?! LOLOLOL!!! There are NO 2nd generation Jews in the US?! LOLOL!!!!

This is the first time I have ever registered at FreeRepublic.

Now WHERE have I heard THAT before?

235 posted on 01/03/2011 5:46:57 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TNTNT; Darksheare
If you think that snippet is going to sway anybody’s opinion

Denialspin denialspin denialspin denialspin!!

Are you dizzy yet?

236 posted on 01/03/2011 5:49:14 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; TNTNT

“Your argument would prevent a Jewish person from becoming President, tell that to the millions of jews in this country that none of them can become President.”

Obviously he believes everyone here who is Semitic is first generation “sprung from the rocks” and none have come before.

He sounds like Gilbert Wilkes IV a.k.a. “casuist”.


237 posted on 01/03/2011 5:50:51 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare
We can debate all night over which person had more influence in the definition of NBC. The bottom line is that the overwhelming legal precedent, history and opinion does not support your crackpot theory. Why does not a single birther bill introduced in any the legislatures even address this issue. I have asked this question before and have never received a response so maybe you can give me the name of one conservative constitutional legal foundation that shares your opinion. There are dozens in this country and until the birthers can get credible legal backing, they are not going to get anywhere with SCOTUS, Congress or public opinion.
238 posted on 01/03/2011 5:51:45 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: DJ MacWoW; TNTNT

Well, Democrats aren’t known for being honest or based on reality.
Remember, it was Nancy Pelosi who said that “you have to increase spending to pay for a tax cut!”
And let’s not forget the “You have to pass it to see what’s in it!”
It’s all about perception and obfuscation.


239 posted on 01/03/2011 5:53:03 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: TNTNT

Yes, we could debate it all night.
And I’d still be right about them citing Vattel come sunrise.


240 posted on 01/03/2011 5:53:52 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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