Posted on 03/30/2010 4:15:55 PM PDT by BobMcCartyWrites
The flight surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff General George W. Casey's pilots and air crew wants President Obama to prove his eligibility now.
If the military did that, what makes you think our Constitutional rights would be restored?
I don't think this officer's situation would equate to the war crimes trials. Those who participated in the cold-blooded murder of Jews knew it was immoral and ultimately criminal. They knew right from wrong. So, logically "I was just following orders" wasn't a legitimate defense.
If any military officer were brought up on war crimes charges, he would have a legitimate defense of following orders from a POTUS who was elected by majority vote of the electoral college whose election was certified by Congress and who was sworn into office by the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS. Following the orders of a POTUS who turned out to be ineligible isn't clearly immoral (or criminal) if one had no way to know he was ineligible.
Just my opinion. I'm not looking for an argument."
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At issue with the "just following orders" defense, was that even though they should have known right from wrong, they (the officers) had an obligation to question what they believed (knowing right from wrong) to be illegal orders.
So, in your opinion then, if the officer believes the orders are illegal or he is highly suspicious that they may be illegal (he asked for a year for the answer's he seeks, from his chain of command & his Congressional delegation) he should simply "follow orders" anyway?
While no doubt he would not be in the same boat as an SS officer, he should anyway subject himself to the possibility of a trial for following illegal orders?
Just curious. I do not envy his predicament.
What difference would it make? We are toast now. I hope for Americans in uniform... What other hope is there???
No, I’m definitely not suggesting that he should just follow orders if he has reason to believe the orders are not legitimate.
I’m saying that anyone who chooses to follow the orders, would have a valid defense that there was no reason to question the orders in the first place because the POTUS was in office as the result of a legitimate election process. Verifying the eligibility of the POTUS was the responsibility of the EC and Congress. Whereas the SS officers had reason to question their orders because they knew the orders were wrong.
I don’t envy him either. If it’s not a political agenda and he truly feels that he has a moral duty to verify that his orders are legitimate, then he’s in a tough spot because he likely won’t get answer.
I don’t believe that, it sounds absurd
SCOTUS also said eligibility was the responsibility of Congress. Is SCOTUS bought-off, too? Threatened?
He’s a scholar and a gentleman and a prince among men. Handsome and wealthy, too, and loves kids and dogs. And the women all swoon, and the highest IQ’ed member of MENSA ever to exist.
Even if you are correct, if lots and lots of those in miliatry service did the same thing, more and more are going to hear and learn about it, and more and more will queation 0bama - who and what he is, his past, his citizenship status and so on.
It will be good even if it goes nowhere, and at this point no one can see the future.
hey if it happened enmasse it would be impossible to ignore.
OMG! LOL
He was born with gold teeth, is a perfect specimen of manhood, and a generous donor to all good causes. He is a master in all the martial arts, both external and internal, and is a natural healer.
He’s also a grand master chess player, and can climb sheer rock faces without any technical gear.
Did I mention he swam the English channel several times?
Sometimes it takes a while to reach the limit of one's tolerance. Plus there's a lot to lose so the threshold is pretty high.
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It appears that the Lt. Col. raised the question, formally to his chain of command and his Rep (Zach Wamp from TN), back in April of 2009. So he's been in search of the truth and answers for about a year now.
The timeline and various coorespondance documents can be found here (on the right side column):
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/who-is-ltc-terry-lakin.html
What is, perhaps, interesting is that this Lt. Col has been seeking these answers for a while now...without much, if any "public" knowledge. Quit unlike many of the other cases.
I wonder how many other "Lt. Col's" there are out there that have submitted formal inquires/demands for answers? And, how many other lawyers out there that are involved.
"A decorated active duty Army medical officer, Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin (selected for promotion to Colonel), is calling upon his chain of command and his Congressional delegation to force President Obama to release his original birth certificate. He is the highest ranking officer to go public over this controversy and in late February, was notified that he is subject to near-term deployment to Afghanistan.
His military orders include a requirement that he provide "copies of his birth certificate."
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.5867/pub_detail.asp
I believe you did and he did it with one arm behind his back and legs shackled.
He can impregnate women just by looking at them.
He memorizes Hebrew and Sanskrti texts just by reading them.
He earned many PhDs from Harvard, La Sorbonne, UCLA, Stamford and other universities via correspondence classes, before his 20th birthday.
He learned how to perform brain surgery by reading Time Life books and indeed, cured his own brain cancer by that method.
Should I continue singing his praises or can I stop now? I feel so disgustingly inferior that I want to hide under the blankie.
ROFLMAO! I want some of whatever Vendome is smoking. I haven’t seen that much brown nosing bullsh*t in many years. Is Vendome NS’s boyfriend?
I now realize the honorable and worthy qualities of the aforesaid mentioned gentleman and henceforth shall only laud and praise his every deed and word.
Vendome and I understand his greatness and await eagerly tomorrow’s comments.
He can impregnate women just by looking at them.
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I can assure you he can NOT impregnate a woman in any way.
(My response self deleted due to not wanting to be a bad poster.)
Okay, I’ll stop now and retire to my blankie.
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