Army Officer Seeks Truth About Obama's Eligibility

Bob McCarty Writes ^ | 3-30-10 | Bob McCarty

[BobMcCartyWrites]

The flight surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff General George W. Casey's pilots and air crew wants President Obama to prove his eligibility now.

[Vendome]

See how it sneaks up on you? LOL Glad you saw it.

[Balata]

After giving you a definition of a legal military order, you agreed with it.

Then I asked you if you could see anything in that legal military order the Lt. Col could base his defense on? And your answer was “No”.

Apparently everything in your world is black or white. There were a lot of things in that definition he could base his defense on.

I’m sure he wouldn’t want you on his defense team.

Perhaps as an ideologue you would agree that ideologue’s opinions are merely a loose collection of intellectual conceits, and genuinely astonished, bewildered and indignant that your views are not universally embraced as the Truth. You regard the opposing point of view as a form of cognitive dissonance whose only cure is relentless propagandizing and browbeating.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

[BuckeyeTexan]

No, I think it’s correct. He volunteered.

[Red Steel]

Read post # 162 to see how the “Master Chess Player” is playing. It is the response to post # 128. Oh, he’s the soooooooo the best.

[Vendome]

Really? That’s it?

Here is the original discussion.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2483391/posts?page=128#128

Tell me how you fix it.

[Red Steel]

See Balata’s response in post 162 to 128 if you haven’t done so yet. It’s a good one.

[Candor7]

Thanks for the ping!

[vigilante2]

You said:

I believe Cook actually volunteered for deployment specifically so could he file suit.

[Vendome]

I liked his near last paragraph. Well written but still agree with NS.

The colonel will be charged with violating a direct superior command and that will be the end of it.

I don’t like it and think he should be able to sue Barry O. for that F-ing fake day pass, he passed off as a BC(It ain’t and he has a long form he found among his mother’s belongins, which he mused about in “Dreams of My Father”, ghost written Bill Ayers)

But at the end of the day, he isn’t going to get anywhere near Barry O’s Presidency.

[Red Steel]

I did answer NS about the same subject on the order that this lieutenant colonel would disobey for it to be effective against Obama earlier in the thread. I said to him that the LTC could disobey deployment overseas to the AOR in Southwest Asia war zone. Because those orders would originate from the Pentagon through the Secretary of Defense who is an Obama appointment to his office. Receiving orders from the SecDef is the same as receiving orders from Obama. This is the order that one would violate to take on the putative ‘Commander-In-Chief’ and his alleged credentials for him to qualify for presidential office.

[Candor7]

I think you are correct but it really does not matter. Leftists like him who occupy a cagarade of interlectual manipulation soiply would rather have the nation ruled by fiat, by ditates which are based on political correctness.This is what Jonah Goldberg calls "The Politics of Meaning." The effect is that laws which are on the books are somply "not enforeced" for exmple, as if once they become politically incorrect, they are elective. We are a natuion of laws, or perhaps I should say we WERE a nation of laws until the Obama Junta came in.Now we are ruked by politacal correctness. There is no reason as to why immigratuon laws are ptionally enfoeced,. There is no reason as to why Article II of the constuitution is optional. Its all done by political correctness, the measure of that ideology is at the kings whim, the king changes it according to how he feels. For example his week he felt that it was time to accost the white trash, dirt poor farmer militia of Michigan, while leaving alone the dozens of Muslim para military training camps strewn about the country to operate with their facilities of bunkers and shooting ranges. Its whim. We no longer are a natuon of laws.

So NS does not subscribe to the Republic as a nation of laws. For him, it is a nation of political correctness, and those who are not on board with its latest ever evolving version, are simply ignorant intellectial troglodytes.p> Such are the idiots who would rule our nation. We will give the the door, and if they do not take it, we will give them 6 feet of good commom dirt.

[Vendome]

I honestly hope he prevails through some miracle.

[Red Steel]

The colonel will be charged with violating a direct superior command and that will be the end of it.

Not necessarily. If this LTC is successful at introducing evidence that Obama's deployment orders were unlawful becuase he is an usurper, I would highly suspect Obama would be the one going down.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Yes.

Orly was recruiting military personnel to sign up as clients. She hooked up with Cook and he volunteered for deployment. They orchestrated the deployment orders so he could then turn around and question Obama’s eligibility.

Then the military said, “Okay, you don’t want to go now? So don’t go. Orders cancelled.”

I believe I’m correct. If I’m not, show me. I’ll retract the accusation.

[Vendome]

I wish that would happen but it doesn’t seem likely.

Even in the civil courts “No Standing” is the meme and the DNC and People have done their parts, according the last rulings.

I don’t think it’s right and wish I could come up with some unassailable strategy but I haven’t thought of one and neither has anyone else.

This guy can get the records of an opponent in Illinois unsealed but we can’t see his Travel records and under what nation he claimed to be a citizen, in terms of passport.

We can’t see his college transcripts, so we may sit in awe of his omnipotence?

We can’t see his kindergarten records but we can find the records of his classmates?

We can’t see his admission records, why he was admitted, what nationality he claimed for admissions and how he financed it?

Why can’t we?

[Vendome]

See Buckeye’s response above.

[BuckeyeTexan]

I’m correct. Here’s the story:

Major Cook took part in a dismissed class action lawsuit in March challenging President Obama?s legitimacy to be CinC that was presented by Orly Taitz and supported her actions via postings on the Free Republic web site. At this time he was a member of the Individual Ready Reserves (IRR) for the US Army.

On May 8th, Major Cook requested that he be activated to serve a one year tour in Afghanistan, starting July 15, 2009

In June, the Army accepts his offer of voluntary service and sets his deployment date for July 15

When it came time to deploy, Major Cook stated that he is refusing to deploy due to his belief that the president is not a legitimate CinC

The deployment order was revoked, since the tour was a voluntary request in the first place, and as a reserve officer he could have asked not to go up until the day of the deployment. Additionally, the military did not want him deployed. In the words of CENTCOM spokesman Lt Cdr William Speaks ?After he brought this stuff to the fore, the unit that owned his billet canceled his orders.?

[rxsid]

"Even if Obama is not legally President, that doesn’t necessarily defeat the legal authority of commissioned officers. Even if Barack Hussein Obama’s entire Presidency is declared void, that just means Joseph Robinette Biden has been acting President since 20 January, 2009, pursuant to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment, and that commissioned officers are his agents."

If Barry isn't a legal President, by definition he can not give legal orders.

The Nurember trials demonstrated that a defense of "I was only following orders" will not protect you. If the officer knowingly follows illegal orders, he sets himself up for war crimes charges not only in the U.S., but also internationally. It's in his best interest, and his duty, to know that he's following legal orders.

I, wonder, how someone born a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England could be considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.

[Red Steel]

I wish that would happen but it doesn’t seem likely.

If this goes to court martial and it goes sour for the lieutenant colonel because Obama refused to voluntarily submit evidence that he occupies his office legally. Obama still loses as this will magnify the whole eligibility issue to a new level to where the heat will be turned up on Obama. In essence, the LTC would become a "martyrs" for the cause because Obama did not show his genuine $12.50 birth certificate to the court. Obama will be facing a new fire storm.

Why can’t we?

One day Obama will be publicly discredited shown to be the fraud that he is...that even the Obots here won't be able to dispute with a straight face. It may happen after he is out of office, but I'm fairly convinced it will happen.

[Sola Veritas]

“The colonel will be charged with violating a direct superior command and that will be the end of it.”

IF he bases his defense upon the basis that his refusal being the result of an inproper authority (AKA POTUS Obama) then producing the BC could be an issue for that defense. IF a military judge rules the need for a BC to be invalid....then I think his conviction would not stand up upon review. It really comes down to what the convening authority does in regards to a military judge. Military courts are not as fixed a thing as civialan ones are. The board of officers making up the court will be equal to or greater in rank than LTC. So, that will tend to be more conservative officers that may not be so prone to knee jerk convict this Army doctor.

Personally, I think there will never be a trial. They will let him serve until he has his 20 years for retirement and then not allow him to stay in any longer. As long as the good Doctor is very careful not to make derogulatory remarks about the POTUS, other than he doubts the man’s constitutional authority to be POTUS, then they can’t get him for Conduct Unbecoming. The ultimate charge would be failure to obey a lawful order. They won’t dare use this charge because then the BC is very material to getting a conviction or proving the LTCs innocence.

Like I said, I don’t think it will make it to trial.