Posted on 01/28/2009 4:40:21 AM PST by Calpernia
There is a biography of Barry Soetoro 's Occidental College days. It states that when Barry Soetoro was 18-19 he attended school as BARRY SOETORO. And it wasn't until he met a girl by the name of REGINA that was the first to start calling him Barack. See:
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/obama-at-occidental-college/
The importance of this is that it clearly shows that Barry was using his Indonesian name, and of course, his Indonesian passport.
The International Herald Tribute (The Global issue of the New York Times)
also states:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/08/america/obama.php
"Nearly three decades ago, Barack Obama stood out on the small campus of Occidental College in Los Angeles for his eloquence, intellect and activism against apartheid in South Africa. But Obama, then known as Barry, also joined in the party scene."
The LA Times also claims below that Barry was the choice of names that Barry Soetoro used when he first arrived from Hawaii to Occidental:
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/29/local/me-oxy29
"Memories of 1980 at Occidental Colleges Haines Hall have the standard fragments of the era: stereos blasting the B-52s through the dorm, pot-fueled bull sessions about the revival of draft registration, late-night cramming for economics exams.
"That otherwise private nostalgia took on public significance this month when a former Haines Hall resident from Hawaii known at the time as Barry announced that he was forming an exploratory committee to run for president of the United States."
Even Occidental College states that Newsweek reported that Barry entered their college as BARRY SOETORO under his Indonesian passport and NOT as Barack Obama.
It was at Occidental where he stopped being called Barry and became Barack Obama, Newsweek pointed out in its account of Obamas formative years that featured his black-and-white freshman photo on the cover. It was when I made a conscious decision: I want to grow up, he told the magazine.
One of Barry Soetoro's college buddies says this of our Indonesian student:
http://www.verdugomonthly.com/article.php?id=382&IssueNum=32
"Tom Moyes remembers the first time he heard the name Barack Obama. It was in the fall of 2004, after the electrifying speech Obama delivered at the 2004 Democratic Convention. That was the oration, of course, which introduced the young would-be Illinois Senator to America and inspired an instant following not only in the U.S. but around the world. Moyes had missed the speech because he was on an extended vacation in New Zealand at the time. So I pick up this newspaper, says Moyes, who grew up in San Gabriel and graduated from Occidental College in Eagle Rock, and it has this huge article about this guy Barack Obama. And it says he had gone to Occidental at the same time I was there. And I said to myself, Theres no way. Id never heard the name Barack; Im thinking it must be a mistake. So I call a friend I went to Oxy with, Ken Sulzer, and I say, Ken, Im down here in New Zealand and theres this article about some guy named Barack that went to college with us. Who is that?! I said, Thats Barry, man, says Sulzer, using the nickname Obama went by during his youth, the guy with the big afro who lived across the hall from me in the dorm.
It is clear that the students at Occidental did not know Barry Soetoro by the name of OBAMA. Instead he was using his Indonesian name and passport. This story cleverly hides the fact that the confusion came not from the first name Barry or Barack, but because of the LAST NAME Soetoro vs. Obama.
Okay so why did Barry suddenly change his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama a year after he entered school? (I don't believe that REGINA story above.) It was simple. His mother and adopted dad got divorced in August of 1980. So naturally, when he entered Occidental in 1979 he used his Indonesian name...then immediately after his mom's divorce he desired to revert back to his birth name of Barack Obama.
See divorce records at:
http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf
Thus proving that Barry lied on his admissions form(s) by indicating “No,” where it asks the applicant to write any previous names.
SOP for the pathological liar known now as BHO
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do believe that has already been done, when zer0 was there for Christmas. Remember the night the power went out and was out all night? Now go ask Soros, Rahm's pals or zer0 what they did with it and who has it? It was probably in granny's ashes that were tossed into the sea. Now it's missing. Damn incompetent clerks in that office, losing birth certifcates. Oh well at least he has a copy prior to that one *getting lost* s/c
Had it read, President Barry Soetoro, the lightbulb in Tom's head, would have exploded.
Significant also is the comment that Barry stood out by being invisible at Occidental (shunning all of the white students, no doubt). Barry was also pretty invisible at Columbia, at the Harvard Law Review, and at the Illinois Senate.
So, NOW, Barry is visible, but his Romulan Cloaking Device is still hiding all of his records.
Kenya and Indonesia would also be on his list...well, that is. if there wasn't a bounty on his head.
Thanks for the Shout Out!
Eleven minutes, forty five seconds. Not a personal best but pretty damned good.
Absolutely....!
Now that's a good line.......ROFLOL!!
He would still be putting himself at a massive disadvantage, financially speaking, if he disqualified himself from Federal aid programs. Most student financial aid is based on Federal money, in some form.
Plus a foreing student could get admitted based on a lower academic standard
I have no idea whether that's the case.
as could "minority" students in those days and until fairly recently.
Based on his racial makeup, he wouldn't have had to apply as a foreign student to qualify for affirmative action programs.
Things were different in ‘61. More non federal scholarships, except in engineering, math and science.
Far fewer Affirmative Action scholarships, I don’t think the term had been invented yet. Except to “historically black”, or “historically latino”. Schools. And there were so few of those that they got to pick and choose scholarship receipients. Thus no need for lowered standards.
Is he dishonest or just stupid?
There's no indication in any of you links that he ever sent by Sotero. The mere fact that his friends called him Barry at one point doesn't prove he ever went by Sotero.
Obama derangement syndrome strikes again.
Nope. Like most claims about his eligibility, someone made it up.
This info about Occidental college lends some credibility to the possibility.
How exactly does his use of the nickname "Barry" lend credibility to it?
So you are claiming that in 1961, it was easier for foreign students to get scholarships. Please provide some evidence.
Far fewer Affirmative Action scholarships, I dont think the term had been invented yet. Except to historically black, or historically latino. Schools. And there were so few of those that they got to pick and choose scholarship receipients. Thus no need for lowered standards.
So where is your evidence that there were lower standards for foreign students?
The burden of proof is on those who claim he was registered as a foreign student, not me. Until someone comes up with proof, it is logical to dismiss the claim as being fabricated.
Your answers are "curiously" typical of an Obama supporter.
Obama supporters are not the only people who demand evidence before believing outlandish claims.
For the record, I opppose Obama and his policies with every fibre of my being.
I also oppose tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theorists who spread unsubstantiated rumors and fabricate stories about his citizenship status because they distracting the nation from the real problems with Obama, namely his leftist policies.
Yes he has, and the preponderance of the remaining evidence is that he was born in Hawaii. Stop deluding yourself.
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