Posted on 12/13/2008 3:36:19 AM PST by IbJensen
What if... you woke up one morning and found out that the President of the United States was a USURPER... a FRAUD... a PHONY?
What if... the leader of the free world was constitutionally ineligible to be President of the United States, but was simply allowed to take and hold office anyway?
It's happening RIGHT NOW!
The sad truth of the matter is that President-elect Barack Obama has REFUSED to provide proof that he is constitutionally qualified to hold the office!
Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, states, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President..."
Now shockingly, I've heard people say that compelling Obama to validate that he is indeed a "natural born Citizen" is a "technicality" that "should not be taken seriously."
But I take the Constitution seriously. I believe that you take the Constitution seriously. I know our Founding Fathers took the Constitution seriously.And... trust me... Obama is taking the matter seriously!
That's why Obama has continually REFUSED to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate.
That's why his teams of attorney have continually tried to BLOCK efforts to compel him to produce his vaulted birth certificate.
That's why, when the question of Obama's status was first raised, a "Certification of Live Birth" suddenly appeared on his website and you were told that the issue of his status as a "natural born Citizen" was settled.
But the issue WAS NOT settled... what you weren't told is that a "Certification of Live Birth" and a "Certificate of Live Birth" are TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS!
What you weren't told is that the "Certification of Live Birth" - which still appears on Obama's "Fight the Smears" website - IS TOTALLY INADEQUATE when it comes to validating his status as a "natural born Citizen."
Look at it this way. For years, liberal activist judges have legislated from the bench. They have effectively made-up laws out of thin air... we've been told that there were "penumbras" in the Constitution... that the Constitution is a "living, breathing document."
Over a period of years, activist judges have slowly - almost imperceptibly - been able to chip away at your liberties by warping the meaning of the Constitution.
Now consider the following:
If JUST ONE SECTION of our Constitution can be flagrantly and callously ignored...
If JUST ONE SECTION of our Constitution can be reduced to a "technicality" that is not worth enforcing...
...IS ANY PART OF THE CONSTITUTION VALID ANYMORE?
That's WHY Obama MUST be compelled to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate and verify that he IS a "natural born citizen."
If NOT... when it comes to the erosion of our liberties, the bar will have been raised significantly and the consequences would be dire... for you... for your children... for your grandchildren... and for our nation!
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
Remind Congress that they swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and that they can not allow a USURPER to be President of the United States.
Tell them they must do their duty and compel President-elect Obama to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate before affirming the vote of the Electors. Tell them that if they fail to uphold the Constitution, it will become worthless and our liberties will become worthless as well.
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Win or lose, freedom loving Americans must draw a line in the sand and demand that the Constitution be upheld. If not, all is lost!
For the Record...Let me make one thing abundantly clear.
I'm not saying that President-elect Obama is NOT constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.
The problem is we simply do not know!
When reports surfaced that President-elect Obama's paternal grandmother was claiming that she was present at Obama's birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, some people dismissed the statement as unsubstantiated.
Then, a "Certification of Live Birth" made its way onto Obama's website. Some said it was a forgery, but the point was actually moot. The document was, and still is, totally inadequate when it came to proving whether Obama is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.
Then, there were the ambiguous statements from officials in Hawaii who claimed that a "Certificate of Live Birth" DOES exist for President-elect Obama in Hawaii.
However, the laws of Hawaii allow for a child to be furnished a "Certificate of Live Birth" even if the child was NOT born in Hawaii.
So... exactly what is contained on the "Certificate of Live Birth" which is presently under lock and key? If a "Certificate of Live Birth" - the vaulted birth certificate - proves that Obama was actually born in Hawaii, WHY WON'T HE ALLOW IT TO BE RELEASED?
Specifically, the statute reads:
"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."
Dr Chiyome Fukino with Hawaii's Department of Health stated:
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
But officials in Hawaii got mysteriously silent and the vaulted birth certificate remains under lock and key. Why?
Then there was the issue of college records that Obama refuses to release. Why? Could those records indicate that he received financial aid as a foreign student?
Recently Dr. Jerome Corsi traveled to Kenya to see if he could find a birth certificate for President-elect Obama but was detained by Kenyan officials. Again... Why?
Janet Porter, writing for WorldNetDaily.com, raises even more questions:
"In Hawaii, a Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to those who register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a hospital,' she said."
"'There's the matter that Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of Obama's visit," Porter wrote.
"'There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens,' she wrote.
"'If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.'"
And, finally, one can not shake President-elect Obama's unwillingness to release an authentic copy of his vaulted birth certificate, nor can it be ignored that President-elect Obama has hired teams of attorneys (not individual attorneys but teams of attorneys) to thwart attempts by third parties to compel him to produce a birth certificate.
The question as to whether President-elect Obama is a "natural born citizen" - as REQUIRED (NOT SUGGESTED) by the Constitution - is not just significant... it's now downright compelling.
And it's a question that MUST be answered!
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
They must do their duty and compel President-elect Obama to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate before affirming the vote of the Electors. If they fail to uphold the Constitution, it will become worthless and our liberties will become worthless as well.
Win or lose, freedom loving Americans must draw a line in the sand and demand that the Constitution be upheld. If not, all is lost!
Crossing the Rubicon...
Simply stated, if the Electoral College actually allowed an unqualified person to be elected President of the United States, or allowed a person to be elected without verifying that that he or she is qualified, our entire form of government could be compromised!
I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration. Liberty and freedom are not the rule in this world. They're exceptions.
In the United States, we take freedom for granted. It's a given. To us it's like breathing or walking. And that's no accident.
Our Founding Fathers established a government under the basic premise that men "are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights." .. rights that could not be taken away because they come from a Power greater than any one of us.
They believed the primary purpose of government was to secure and safeguard those rights and they enumerated those rights in the Constitution and in the Bill of Rights.
Stated in greater detail...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...."
When the most powerful among us are no longer bound by those founding documents - and, more importantly, when we refuse to hold them accountable - there can be no freedom... no liberty... only unrest... violence... oppression... tyranny... perhaps not tomorrow, but very soon!
Our Founding Fathers knew that all too well.
The action you take now may very well determine the future you leave to your children and grandchildren.
We have indeed crossed the Rubicon.
If we do nothing... we may well be signing the death warrant for our nation.
The action you take or don't take right now will determine our future. What will you do?
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
You’re right. There is a constitutional issue here but it needs people with level heads and sensible FACT-BASED arguments to work it through., otherwise it won’t be taken seriously.
Obama hasn’t bypassed any procedure requiring him to prove his elegibility... that we know of.
The difference in this case is that the American people aren’t prepared to accept the assurances from Hawaiian officials that he already has done it. Even though such assurances are themselves unprecedented.
To take it further, there’d need to be a formal decision as to whom Obama should submit his birth certificate (the governors of each State which allowed him to appear on the ballot BEFORE seeing such evidence seems to me to be an obvious starting point).
Secondly, there’d have to be safeguards to ensure that the document is authenticated impartially, the outcome is both honest, and all parties accept its findings as final.
Thirdly: just the facts ma’am. No court should be examining any allegation tied to Obama’s legitimacy, if the accusers can’t produce any evidence to support the charge.
Also, as to whether or not there’s any real evidence to Obama NOT being a natural born citizen, it’s a good idea to go through existing case law and see how the evidence stacks up one way or the other.
For example, some commentators in Europe have cited the case of 169 U.S. 649 (UNITED STATES vs. WONG KIM ARK). Which discussed very similar issues to what we’re discussing now - and its findings were based on the fact that while the Constitution doesn’t set out the exact legal definition of “natural born”, English Common Law asserts that it’s about where you are born, not who your parents are. And the Constitution doesn’t overturn that definition.
This raises really interesting issues. If for arguments’ sake, Obama was born in Hawaii, and Hawaii was on American soil, NEITHER parent was American, he was given an American birth certificate and had immediately been taken to live in Africa, he would, in British Common Law and in case law, still be a natural born American.
If Obama was born on American soil and he can prove it, then there is, on the face of it, no case to answer as the Supreme Court ruled it so over 100 years ago (and with the best will in the world that ruling can’t have been part of Obama’s gameplan).
Unless, of course, a later Supreme Court ruling suggests different.
Have they done so on oath or affirmation in front of an Article III court, in a way that you or I, or anyone else, can weigh their evidence?
Just show us the vault copy of your birth certificate, 0bama, and the whole argument will be over.
This is so damn silly! Why can’t some people see that he’s hiding something?
I suspect that the Hawaiian government has found itself in a serious mess. It says he has a vault birth certificate. But, it knows that it has to be stamped, signed, certified by the government before it can be released and proven. And it can’t get past the many talented and trained investigators who will examine such a document and prove that the government of Hawaii has changed the vault copy to oblige 0bama.
If that were true, why does the Constitution provide a procedure for what to do when the Electoral College chooses a President-Elect who is unqualified?
Maybe they were bored that day?
“...let SCOTUS declare the man who just won 53% of the vote ineligible. See if that doesnt violently shake this nation.
Why do you assume that the 47 % of voters will peacefully accept a usurper?
That chart is a bit one-sided. For example, the first one actually concludes that Obama IS a natural born citizen if he was born on U.S. Soil.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=169&invol=649
Quote:
In U. S. v. Rhodes (1866), Mr. Justice Swayne, sitting in the circuit court, said: ‘All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural- born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.’
That specific issue is debated in the Kim Ark case.
There was a specific issue for Chinese naturalization (founded both in treaty and in statute) but not for those of African or European origin since the exemptions applied to persons of Chinese descent didn’t apply.
The conclusion:
“In other words, the fourteenth amendment does not exclude from citizenship by birth children born in the United States of parents permanently located therein, and who might themselves become citizens; nor, on the other hand, does it arbitrarily make citizens of children born in the United States of parents who, according to the will of their native government and of this government, are and must remain aliens”.
Kim Ark didn’t qualify because he was of Chinese descent.
Overall, “citizenship by birth” equates to “natural born citizen”.
Ergo, unless Obama is part Chinese, being born on American soil does entitle him to run for President.
Wikipedia is nice for some things but not for others. For a statement such as this it is worthless. So I suggest you provide other evidence that Berg believes that the 9/11 attack was something other than it obviously was.
ML/NJ
Berg is a Democrat. You’re surprised that he hates Bush?
I meant to add:
The key words in that conclusion were, “according to the will of their native government and of this government”.
Even if both of Obama’s parents had been Kenyan, their offspring would be a natural born American if born on American soil - unless a legal impediment (treaty or statute) was in place that satisfied both Kenyan and American interests at that time.
So, for Obama to be declared ineligible even if he was born in Hawaii, there would’ve had to be an existing and lawful impediment to him receiving “natural born” status, by mutual agreement between Kenya and the USA, and/or the UK and the USA, at the time of his birth.
We wouldn’t need Obama’s cooperation at all to find THAT smoking gun. Assuming it ever existed. Which, as far as I can tell, it didn’t.
His mother is a natural born American so it doesn’t matter if his natural father wasn’t. The fact she split with his alleged father is also totally irrelevant.
The argument over her age rendering Obama inelegible for natural born status is only relevant if Obama was not born in Hawaii.
So, we would need documentary evidence from Kenya (not mere testimony) proving that he was born there, and/or documentary evidence proving that the DoH in Hawaii lied on October 31st when they confirmed his place of birth was Honolulu, for there to be any question of ineligibility.
Don't forget the LSM.
They pulled their weight to get Zero elected.
That's not what was said. They very carefully stated that they had an original BC on file. Foreign borns could get a Hawaiian BC if their parents lived in Hawaii for a year prior to birth.
For more information see: Obama's "birth certificate" - the Devil's in the details
But, herein lies the problem. He ‘potentially’(innocent until proven guilty) was ineligible to be on the ballot. If it is proven that he was not qualified to be on the ballot, then that 53% vote for him is totally meaningless. Period
Voting for an ineligible candidate does not validate that candidate.
It only proves that 53% of the voters were deceived and defrauded of their votes.
How popular he is, has NOTHING to do with it. Whether he is CONSTITUTIONALLY eligible to offer himself up as a candidate has EVERYTHING to do with it.
The Constitution is the Law of the Land. We are NOT a democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
The Constitution makes provision for a mechanism to have it changed. A 53% vote for an ineligible candidate is not a valid procedure to change the Constitution!!
If the Constitution is NOT upheld, this country WILL face total anarchy!!
If it is too much for you to deal with, than go hide in your basement and let the conservatives worry about it.
Enough Already, The people voted. Respect the vote.
Go ahead. Be my guest.
Because those Americans, both living and dead and some of those on this thread, don't want the truth to be discovered.
They'd have to admit they made a fatal mistake.
Agree that the media did abet the fraud. They will be laughing all the way to the bread line....if there is enough left to fund one.
Screw that. I raped your wife and killed your kids, but it was years ago and the jury aquitted me, “Enough Already, The people voted. Respect the vote”.... How’s that logic work for you?
Jim, these are simple Kenyan farmers who wouldn't know an Article III court from a crooked Illinois political machine.
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