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Quest for the Phoenicians (National Geographic special)
PBS ^ | Oct 20 2004 | National Geographic

Posted on 10/17/2004 7:53:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

In "Quest for the Phoenicians," three renowned scientists, National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence and oceanographer Robert Ballard, geneticist Spencer Wells and archaeologist Paco Giles, search for clues about the Phoenicians in the sea, in the earth and in the blood of their modern-day descendents... Ballard looks at ancient shipwrecks along Skerki Bank off the island of Sicily... Paco Giles excavates a cave at the bottom of the rock of Gibraltar... Spencer Wells collects DNA from a 2,500-year-old Phoenician mummy's tooth, to extract its unique genetic code and compare it with DNA samples collected from men and women from Lebanon to Tunisia.

(Excerpt) Read more at pbs.org ...


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Please note that the date of broadcast may vary, check your local PBS station listing / website. National Geographic mag for Oct 2004 has a companion article.
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1 posted on 10/17/2004 7:53:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 2Jedismom; 4ConservativeJustices; ...

Gods, Graves, Glyphs ping.


2 posted on 10/17/2004 7:53:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Secrets of Ancient Navigation
by Peter Tyson
NOVA
from 2000
Charts have aided mariners ever since the Alexandrian astronomer Ptolemy created the first world atlas in the second century A.D. The redoubtable Ptolemy even plotted latitude and longitude lines on his atlas's 27 maps, though the farther one got from the known world centered on the Mediterranean, the dangerously less reliable they became. Even before Ptolemy, there were sailing directions -- the Greeks called them periplus or "circumnavigation" -- that were compiled from information collected from sailors far and wide. One of these, The Periplus of the Eritrean Sea, a document written in the first century by a Greek merchant living in Alexandria, described trading routes as far east as India.

3 posted on 10/17/2004 7:57:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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probably a reprise:
Deep-Sea Clues to an Ancient Culture Discovered
by William J. Broad
October 12, 1998
[T]he deep wreck appears to be pristine. A striking color video made by the Odyssey team shows a jumble of brown and red amphoras much as they must have lain shortly after the ship, perhaps wrecked by one of the Mediterranean's squalls, settled into the ooze... What lies beneath the amphoras and the muck -- whether the ship's wooden hull, tools, personal items and perhaps coins, which would help pinpoint the date of the sinking -- can only be learned by excavation. The frigidity and low oxygen levels of the deep sea are known to keep many old items remarkably well preserved.

4 posted on 10/17/2004 8:01:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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"Who Were the Phoenicians?" (preview, citations)
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature2/

"Emerging Explorer" Uses DNA to Unlock Our History
Hillary Mayell
for National Geographic News
January 5, 2004
"Spencer Wells thought 'genetics' and forged a unique career that combines his love for history with his passion for biology."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/12/1217_031218_spencerwells.html


5 posted on 10/17/2004 8:10:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

Since this is an area of interest to me, I look forward to what Dr. Ballard and team produce.

In the meantime, an interesting link:

http://phoenicia.org/index.shtml


6 posted on 10/17/2004 8:22:00 AM PDT by Prost1 (A Liberal said, "History is so interesting, I can't wait to relive it!")
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To: SunkenCiv
"Ships of Tyre" bump!

An ancient Phoenician city on the eastern Mediterranean Sea in present-day southern Lebanon. The capital of Phoenicia after the 11th century B.C., it was a flourishing commercial center noted for its purple dyestuffs and rich, silken clothing. Tyre was besieged and captured by Alexander the Great in 332 B.C. and was finally destroyed by Muslims in A.D. 1291.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution restricted in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.

7 posted on 10/17/2004 8:27:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: SunkenCiv

Here is the National Geographic Link...

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature2/index.html


8 posted on 10/17/2004 8:32:40 AM PDT by Prost1 (A Liberal said, "History is so interesting, I can't wait to relive it!")
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To: SunkenCiv

BUMP for later.

THANKS!!


9 posted on 10/17/2004 10:00:42 AM PDT by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: bannie; Lonesome in Massachussets; Prost1
thanks.
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10 posted on 10/17/2004 12:40:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; farmfriend; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach
The VCR taped the show for me last night, and I watched it this morning. It was okay. Good for people with very short attention spans. Very little from Robert Ballard, and I was very much looking forward to seeing some Phoenician wrecks on the sea floor.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

11 posted on 10/21/2004 9:08:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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did anyone see/tape this?


12 posted on 12/02/2004 11:04:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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The current Minerva has an article about an exhibition on Carthage in a museum in Germany. The website kinda sucks. I've changed the URL from the one given in the article, and put in the "karthago" frame URL. Has some of the photos seen in the article:
Badisches Landesmusem Karlsruhe


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13 posted on 01/01/2005 2:50:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: Berosus

I'm not merely annoying you B, this is also a bttt for the topic.

The Periplus of Hanno, King of the Carthaginians,
ed. Megalommatis,
a Book Review
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1156906/posts

The Periplus of the Red Sea,
edition Megalommatis,
a Book Review
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1154520/posts

both of the above topics have been pulled, so they're also non-functional as GGG topics. The first of them exists in the Wayback Machine. To all note also:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~Megalommatis/
The requested document does not exist on this server.

some related topics:

Bible Accuracy
Christian Courier: Penpoints | Monday, October 14, 2002 | Wayne Jackson
Posted on 01/23/2003 4:28:55 AM PST by calebjosh
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/827885/posts

Eusebius' Onomasticon: Geographical Knowledge in Byzantine Palestine
Palestine Exploration Fund | 17 March, 2004, Last modified 30 April, 2004
Joan E. Taylor and Rupert L. Chapman
Posted on 01/01/2005 1:36:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1311964/posts


14 posted on 05/01/2005 7:59:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh I wasn't offended a bit. I can see you pinged the rest of the gang before you found out I had become a Freeper.


15 posted on 05/01/2005 10:43:39 AM PDT by Berosus
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To: Berosus

hmm... are you on the GGG list? I don't see your name... ;')


16 posted on 05/01/2005 2:14:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I'm only on it if you put me there. That's not your list, is it?


17 posted on 05/01/2005 7:33:09 PM PDT by Berosus
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To: Berosus
I was just walking by the list one evening, and when I came to...
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18 posted on 05/01/2005 8:46:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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Quest for the Phoenicians on FreeRepublic:
Google

19 posted on 06/05/2005 9:30:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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Periplus of the Red Sea, edition Megalommatis:
Google

20 posted on 07/26/2005 7:48:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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