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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: palmer

I have farmland abstracts in N.Dak with entries from 1907 fwd, and 1907 N.Dak is probably similar tech avail to 1961 Kenya.

The Font and typewritten abstract updates (purch, sale, mortgages, foreclosures etc) are very consistent done on the parchment paper of the time.


2,081 posted on 08/02/2009 11:10:01 AM PDT by sbark
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To: rocco55
Not sure that Odinga is “current ruler in Kenya”, though he has some power. It would depend upon which tribe has control of the birth registry, if in fact it hasn't been destroyed by years of civil warfare in the interim.
2,082 posted on 08/02/2009 11:10:03 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: null and void

Well, then where did this birth certificate come from? Orly Taitz looks to have likely produced the smoking gun!

Obama isn’t a natural born citizen regardless.


2,083 posted on 08/02/2009 11:10:22 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: David

David,

I agree with you about the military’s role in this and that it will be left up to them.

My guess all along has been that the military gets with the Supreme Court and they decide to give Biden the Oath of Office and escort Obama out of out the Building.

Biden names Hillary Clinton as Vice President.

John


2,084 posted on 08/02/2009 11:11:02 AM PDT by Diggity
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To: jcsjcm

That was my understanding, thanks. I actually can’t see Americans uniting behind the finer points of ‘natural born’—but not being a citizen, they would get.


2,085 posted on 08/02/2009 11:11:05 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DJ MacWoW
Yup. They're waiting for authentication. You don't post a "maybe".

I just explained why no rational person would wait for full legal authentication to call this news.

So, no I don't buy it. They are waiting for the Blogosphere to come to a consensus that this is not a fraud on the surface of it.. which can be done in less than a day. They are waiting for a 2nd Source, to say that this document physically exists and is in a specific person's possession.

Past this, it would be highly inappropriate not to report it in the terms that WND did,

"Someone has come forward with a Document that is purported to be an Offical Copy of BO's Kenyan B.C issued in February of 1964. Its authenticity is being examined, but the form is consistent with B.C.'s issued in Kenya in 1964 when this copy was issued."

This is basic reporting and it is the obligation of News organizations to cover this occurrence regardless of whether the document is genuine or a fraud. Either way it is news.

2,087 posted on 08/02/2009 11:11:24 AM PDT by dalight
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To: Danae

Use of English on their docs makes them much handier for international purposes.


2,088 posted on 08/02/2009 11:11:29 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Battle Axe

Most likely to do with her divorce from BO Sr.


2,089 posted on 08/02/2009 11:12:06 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Jedidah

A story about requesting verification seems very reasonable.


2,090 posted on 08/02/2009 11:12:22 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: RatsDawg
That’s probably why Obama did all that campaigning for his cousin in Kenya.

Bingo. Fortunately, his gambit failed, even after considerable bloodshed on the part of his communist cousin.

Kibaki's government is no Obama ally. And they haven't forgotten what he tried to do to them. If this is real, I'd bet anything that's where it came from.

2,091 posted on 08/02/2009 11:12:27 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: politicalmerc
The Electoral College votes (EC) and the results go to the House where they are charged with determining th eligibility of the candidate who wins. The rules there specifically state (I'll find them if I must) that if the House finds that the winner is ineligible the House declares the 2nd place vote getter to be President.

Please look it up.

You're confusing two things. The House does what you say if no one has 270 certified EVs.

But before you get there, a special Joint Session of Congress, with the outgoing VP in the chair, opens, counts, and certifies the EVs.

This happened on January 5, 2009, Barack Obama was elected with 365 votes, as was Biden. If one Member and one Senator had objected, then an investigation into qualifications would have followed, but this did not happen.

If, after this procedure, the office of President falls vacant, the legally electted VP takes over.

2,092 posted on 08/02/2009 11:12:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: buccaneer81
Independence from the United Kingdom
- Date December 12, 1963
- Republic declared December 12, 1964

This document dated February 1964, amidst historical tumult.

This Republic of Kenya title is then a key to authenticity. A forger would need do extensive historical research to determine when Kenyans started producing documents with the Republic of Kenya. If other documents from February of 1964 call it the Republic, then it is likely authentic. But if other contemporaneous documents refer to Kenya still as a colony, or something else, then it is probably fake.

2,093 posted on 08/02/2009 11:12:34 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Mount Athos
Good point!

You are clueless. It is a CERTIFIED COPY obtained three years after the official birth was registered.

2,094 posted on 08/02/2009 11:13:07 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: RatsDawg; Jim Noble

Yeah, odinga, “zero’s” cousin is now pm of kenya after he mau-maued his way into power. Real or not kenya will never authenticate it.


2,095 posted on 08/02/2009 11:13:13 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: cmsgop

I’ve still got to get online at the lab and do a Lexis-Nexis search of “Republic of Kenya” and “Dominion of Kenya” in pre-internet publications. So far there were only about 1800 references in Google to “Dominion of Kenya,” most of these repetitions, versus 160,000 for “Republic of Kenya.”


2,096 posted on 08/02/2009 11:13:20 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: null and void

Tell what is fake?

I could color photo copy a 100 dollar bill back it, take a picture of it, and you could not tell from the picture that it was fake. Though clearly it IS a fake.

You can’t prove much about any document from a PICTURE of it. You certainly can’t tell if it is real or fake. And REAL documents expert will tell you that. Hollywood could produce just about any document that they needed to and you would not be able to tell if it was fake with out an expert, and that expert would have to be actually holding the document to tell. Polarik might have gotten some things right, but he got a lot wrong as well, mostly because he isn’t a documents expert. He writes surveys and does Statistics.


2,097 posted on 08/02/2009 11:13:38 AM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

This Bozo already has more enemies than Carter has pills. Or than that other Carter has enemies, for that matter.


2,098 posted on 08/02/2009 11:13:46 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: bgill

Thank you so much for saying that.

I’m so down on myself right now I can’t stand it.

Bringing humiliation upon myself is one thing; humiliation upon all FReepers is quite another.

One I could deal with...the other, not so much.


2,099 posted on 08/02/2009 11:13:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: wtc911

You would be well suited to READ the document before making your pronouncements.

READ it carefully. Notice when it ACTUALLY IS DATED.

Pay close attention to the last line which reads:

“Given under my Hand and Seal of Office this 17th day of February, 1964”


2,100 posted on 08/02/2009 11:13:56 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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