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What Karl Rove Should Tell La Raza
Human Events ^ | 07/10/06 | The Human Events View

Posted on 07/10/2006 5:42:12 PM PDT by garbageseeker

White House adviser Karl Rove is scheduled to speak tomorrow at the annual conference of the federally funded, left-wing, open-borders-advocacy group, the National Council of La Raza.

If he does not want his speech to look like an act of appeasement, he should confront La Raza on its opposition to commonsense policies designed to secure both U.S. borders and U.S. pocketbooks.

La Raza, which means “The Race” in Spanish, has denounced as “horrendous” and “appalling” the House immigration bill passed in December, which was sponsored by Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R.-Wis.) and supported by the overwhelming majority of House Republicans. The bill, which calls for tough worksite enforcement of immigration laws and 700 miles of border fencing, was condemned by La Raza as a “laundry list of mean-spirited and intrusive provisions concocted by the most radical immigrations restrictionists in Congress.”

Will Rove defend the immigration reforms passed by President Bush’s party in the House and tell La Raza that House Republicans are neither “mean-spirited” nor “radical”? He should. House Republicans deserve Rove’s support.

(Excerpt) Read more at humaneventsonline.com ...


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To: darkwing104; Dead Corpse; Darksheare; King Prout; Lady Jag

""To educate the citizens of Mexico can only be beneficial to this society. These people immigrate to this country: they come here to stay, and they are not going back. May as well, we have a high rate of educated immigrants than to have a high rate of uneducated immigrants. The more educated people we, as a nation, have the more powerful this nation will be. You do not want to have a group of uneducated people as your neighbors? Do you? thank you.""

Troll Alert!


301 posted on 07/10/2006 9:08:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: Texasforever

---What courting? You don't even know what Rove is going to say.---

Please! Do you think he's going to their little luncheon to read them the riot act?


302 posted on 07/10/2006 9:09:14 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: Howlin

---Nobody has "bashed Bush".


HAHAHAHAHA.---

Show me where I "bashed Bush". Show me.


303 posted on 07/10/2006 9:10:56 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: rottndog

I encountered some of them. They are appeasers and apologists for illegal immigration. They do not care what damage illegal immigrants do to our society.


304 posted on 07/10/2006 9:11:29 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: oneteacher


Ever heard of leading a horse to water, but unable to make him drink?


305 posted on 07/10/2006 9:11:46 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Bump that


306 posted on 07/10/2006 9:12:08 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: claudiustg
Please! Do you think he's going to their little luncheon to read them the riot act?

Hell no BUT he can say to Hispanics that he went and made his case and they rejected it. As much as you don't want them the GOP needs to keep the share of Hispanic votes it has to be competitive. Ya'll are sure as hell not helping that with the over the top rhetoric Tancredo and his sock puppets use.

307 posted on 07/10/2006 9:12:12 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker


That's hilarious, coming from you.


308 posted on 07/10/2006 9:13:14 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

I was worried about you. Now the "Bush is God Six Pack" is fully represented.

Press 1 for English.


309 posted on 07/10/2006 9:16:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: sinkspur
"Pence proposes to take the border security measures from HR 4437 and blend them with a guest worker program."

Yes, that works. We need to seriously tighten up the borders. I prefer a secure wall. After that, I'm open to worker permits. We do it for doctors and engineers, I have no problem with farm workers and the like. I would just like to see it controlled, and not allow 20% of Mexico to come here. If someone wants to come here and work with a permit that's fine. I don't agree with them bringing in their 20 immediate family members who would qualify for government benefits and citizenship like the rest of us.

I know a good plan can be legislated long before the elections, so we can all get back to the business of kicking some Liberal ass!!

310 posted on 07/10/2006 9:16:44 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Texasforever

---As much as you don't want them the GOP needs to keep the share of Hispanic votes it has to be competitive. ---

And to that end we must smile upon those that have broken our laws and pander to to those that would aid them?


311 posted on 07/10/2006 9:17:37 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: KoRn

---Despite the consistent failure of all guest worker plans (e.g., France), Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) is peddling a new plan to import foreign workers who really are guests and really do go home. Pence has turned his back on the 88 percent of House Republicans who voted that we must achieve border security first, because we'll be cheated on border security if Congress passes a "comprehensive" bill.
The Pence plan tries to avoid the amnesty label by requiring illegal aliens now in the U.S. to make what he calls "a quick trip across the border" to Mexico or Canada to pick up a new W visa. A foreigner could get a W visa only if a U.S. employer certifies that a job awaits him.

Pence's plan calls for setting up privately financed offices outside the U.S., with the cutesy title Ellis Island Centers, to hand out the new W visas, which he claims would be more efficient than government bureaucracy. Business would, indeed, be more efficient than government in importing more foreign workers.

Having private employment agencies distribute the W visas would put the fox in charge of the chicken coop. Private industry has a built-in incentive to import as much cheap labor as possible.

Pence says that the Ellis Island Centers will be able to match workers with jobs, perform health screening, fingerprinting, and convey information to the FBI and Homeland Security for a background check in "a matter of one week, or less." We'll have to see that to believe it.

What about the millions of illegal aliens in the U.S. today who do not have an employer willing to go on record as guaranteeing a job for a foreigner? These would include the relatives of jobholders, the day laborers, and the millions of illegal aliens working in the U.S. underground cash economy (an estimated 40 percent of the total).

Pence's bill is silent on this and his staff predicts that the free market will provide the answers. Pence told Time Magazine his bill "will require the 12 million illegal aliens to leave."

What about the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who are not Mexicans? Illegal aliens will not have to return to their home country, but only appear at an Ellis Island Center anywhere outside the U.S. to pick up their papers. Will Mexico and Canada put out the welcome mat for a mass exodus of illegal aliens from the U.S.?

The Pence plan provides that the guest workers, after living here legally for six years under the protection of a W visa, can choose whether to apply for citizenship or to return home. If guest workers don't apply for citizenship, will Pence hire buses to deport them after they have raised a family and established roots?

Six years is ample time to have a U.S.-born anchor baby, or two or three, which starts family chain migration. Any attempt to deal with the racket of birthright citizenship would linger at least six years in the courts.

The Pence promise that employers would have to offer jobs to Americans first is a sick joke. American engineers and computer techies who lost their jobs to foreigners under the H-1B visa guest-worker racket know that a look-for-Americans-first rule is never enforced and easily evaded.

Pence revealed an amazing open-ended part of his plan in his Wall Street Journal article: "My immigration reform plan does not favor illegal immigrants. Anyone may apply for a guest-worker visa at the new Ellis Island Centers; indeed, the plan may actually work to the advantage of applicants who have never violated our immigration laws, since guest-worker visas will be issued only outside the U.S."

Anyone may apply? From anywhere in the world? And without any limits? Pence wrote, "There will initially be no cap on the number of visas that can be issued."

The Pew Hispanic Center surveyed 120 locations in Mexico and concluded that 49 million Mexicans want to live in the United States if they get the opportunity.

If Pence's "guest worker" plan actually worked, and the guests voluntarily go home after six years, it would mean instituting a system that is immoral and un-American. Inviting foreigners to come to America to do jobs that Americans think they are too good to do creates a subordinate underclass of unassimilated foreign workers, like the serf or peasant classes that exist in corrupt foreign countries such as Mexico.

That's not the kind of economy that made America a great nation. As Theodore Roosevelt warned: "Never under any condition should this nation look at an immigrant as primarily a labor unit."

Pence and others who promote "guest worker" plans have a favorite mantra: "Let the free market solve our economic problems." Americans should realize that a global, or even a Western Hemisphere free market, means forcing American workers to compete with people who work for 50 cents an hour.

Letting the free market decide our future also requires loss of sovereignty to some kind of multinational government, as the European Union found out. Is the real push behind guest-worker proposals the Bush goal to expand NAFTA into the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which he signed at Waco last year and reaffirmed at Cancun this year?---

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/june06/06-06-28.html


312 posted on 07/10/2006 9:22:03 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
LOL -- hey Einstein, you might want to include the owner of this forum with us Bush-Bots.

To: WestVirginiaRebel

Depends. People who trash the president or the GOP or us "bushbots" with their every post are not helping matters. It gets old.

282 posted on 05/11/2006 11:10:59 PM CDT by Jim Robinson [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 280 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

313 posted on 07/10/2006 9:25:07 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: garbageseeker
When they are pushing the stolen shopping carts from out in front of their driveways and they have to keep their houses closed up to keep out the mariachi music at all hours of the day and night, then it may start to dawn on them the damage that is being done.
314 posted on 07/10/2006 9:25:55 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: claudiustg

You've done a great job of that for years.


315 posted on 07/10/2006 9:29:25 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: claudiustg
That's unacceptable. The INS(whatever they call it now) needs to handle this. I agree, allowing businesses to handle it is literally like allowing the fox to watch the hen house. This can be done, if it's done properly. Anything less than a disciplined process without very strong border security would be a disaster for our country. This needs to be done similarly to how we do the high skilled worker Visas, except with strict law enforcement.
316 posted on 07/10/2006 9:30:22 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: rottndog; stephenjohnbanker; garbageseeker

A sudden lull in the shooting, smoke 'em if you got 'em. :^)


317 posted on 07/10/2006 9:30:35 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: onyx

Bush gets an A+ on foreign policy

Bush gets an F+, D- on domestic spending, and illegal immigration.

Bush gets a B+/A- on the Supreme Court installation. Harriet Myers snafu, notwithstanding: )

Now, is that CLEAR to you?


318 posted on 07/10/2006 9:32:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: claudiustg

R O T F L M A O !!


319 posted on 07/10/2006 9:34:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: KoRn

---This needs to be done similarly to how we do the high skilled worker Visas, except with strict law enforcement.---

The key to this whole thing is enforcement, and many of us believe that key has gone more or less permanently missing.


320 posted on 07/10/2006 9:35:00 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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