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Archeologist finds evidence of Old Testament Validity
Catholic News Agency ^ | January 28, 2005

Posted on 01/29/2005 6:12:28 AM PST by NYer

Hamilton, Ontario, Jan. 28, 2005 (CNA) - Canadian archaeologist Russell Adams, a professor at McMaster University has recently unearthed evidence, which helps to show the historical accuracy of the Bible.

Professor Adams and his team of colleagues have found information that points to the existence of the Biblical Kingdom of Edom existing at precisely the time Scripture claims it existed.

The evidence flies in the face of a common belief that Edom actually came into existence at least 200 years later.

According to the Canadian Globe and Mail, the group’s findings “mean that those scholars convinced that the Hebrew Old Testament is at best a compendium of revisionist, fragmented history, mixed with folklore and theology, and at worst a piece of outright propaganda, likely will have to apply the brakes to their thinking.”

The Kingdom of Edom, mentioned throughout the Old Testament, and a continuous source of hostility for Biblical Israel, is thought to have existed in what is now southern Jordan.

The group made their discovery while investigating a copper mining site called Khirbat en-Nahas.

According to the Globe and Mail, radiocarbon dating of their finds, “firmly established that occupation of the site began in the 11th century BC and a monumental fortress was built in the 10th century BC, supporting the argument for existence of an Edomite state at least 200 years earlier than had been assumed.”

The evidence is also said to suggest that the Kingdom existed at the same time David, who scripture recounts as warring with Edom, was king over Israel.


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To: olde north church
"The Prophet Emmanuel always connected Himself with the Church,"

Who is the prophet Emmanuel?

141 posted on 01/29/2005 1:35:06 PM PST by spunkets
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To: narses
Who do you look to today to "consider the matter"?

Jesus. All that is necessary is contained in his Word.

16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

142 posted on 01/29/2005 1:42:06 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: spunkets

The individual the Greeks refered to as "Jesus Christ".


143 posted on 01/29/2005 1:43:04 PM PST by olde north church (I think, therefore iMac.)
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To: Raycpa

"All that is necessary is contained in his Word."

Including His appointment of Apostles, right?

If His Word is sufficient today, why wasn't it then?


144 posted on 01/29/2005 1:46:41 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: narses; CouncilofTrent
I am told that changing Rites is now possible and much easier than in times past.

Yes! It is a fairly simple process. The applicant must provide an original, stamped Baptismal Certificate. The individual then writes a letter to the Eparchial bishop indicating their reason for requesting a canonical switch of rites. The prime motive [for changing rites] must be love for the Eastern tradition, and a desire to fully embrace it and live it out. Once the bishop receives this letter, he then forwards a copy to the Diocesan bishop for his approval. When that is received, a formal document is signed along with the signatures of two witnesses. This document formalizes the change of rites and is then sent to the Vatican. It is then recorded and an official notification is sent to the parish where the applicant was first baptized. A new Baptismal Certificate is issued bearing a stamp indicating the official change of rite. (At least that is what I have been told. A Roman Catholic may participate at any Eastern Catholic liturgy and fulfill their Sunday obligation. It is not necessary to formally switch rites. I have elected to make the switch and have just written my letter to the bishop. It will be reviewed tomorrow by my pastor before being sent to him. I will let you know how the rest of the process works.)

As to why someone would want to formally switch rites, there are a multitude of reasons. There was an excellent online article but the link has now been broken. Personally speaking, all aspects of the Maronite Tradition have drawn me into a deeper relationship with our Lord and His blessed Mother. The Maronite Church and especially its liturgy, has captivated my heart and soul. It is now my home. A canonical switch of rites simply formalizes the process.

145 posted on 01/29/2005 1:48:10 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: martin_fierro
Thanks Martin. Looks similar to some others, but I'll add it to the catalog.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

146 posted on 01/29/2005 1:48:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Martin must know of Dewey Balfa?)
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To: NYer; CouncilofTrent

Thank you!


147 posted on 01/29/2005 1:54:21 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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Archaeologist Unearths Bibical Controversy
Globe And Mail ^ | 1-25-2005 | Michael Valpy
Posted on 01/26/2005 8:44:58 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329488/posts

Archeologist unearths biblical controversy
chn ^ | 26 January 2005
Posted on 01/27/2005 10:42:23 PM PST by Catholic54321
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1330389/posts


148 posted on 01/29/2005 1:54:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: narses
Including His appointment of Apostles, right? If His Word is sufficient today, why wasn't it then?

Can you be more specific and provide scripture reference.

149 posted on 01/29/2005 1:55:32 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Well, just look at what I posted fgrom your citation. The early Church had need for Apostilic authority, correct?


150 posted on 01/29/2005 1:56:16 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: NYer

"Personally speaking, all aspects of the Maronite Tradition have drawn me into a deeper relationship with our Lord and His blessed Mother."

Try as hard as I can, I cannot comprehend how one can have a relationship with Mary the mother of Christ.


151 posted on 01/29/2005 1:57:17 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: narses
Well, just look at what I posted fgrom your citation

??? help me.

152 posted on 01/29/2005 1:57:31 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: olde north church
Emmanuel means God with us. Christ may Greek for the Annointed One, but He is God, not a prophet.
153 posted on 01/29/2005 1:59:17 PM PST by spunkets
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To: aspiring.hillbilly; CouncilofTrent; narses; netmilsmom
All the homosexual acting-out-with-young-boys priests that were shuffled around from parish to parish when caught ai it,,,To the contrary-- What kind of condemnation is that?

I believe your question has already been addressed in an earlier post. This is not unique to the Catholic Church. It occurs in Protestant and Jewish denominations as well. The big difference is that the MSM has focused their 'laser' beam on the Catholic Church because of its stance on homosexuality. And, just in case you are not aware of where the Catholic Church stands, you can learn more here:

“Homosexual unions are totally lacking in the biological and anthropological elements of marriage and family which would be the basis, on the level of reason, for granting them legal recognition. Such unions are not able to contribute in a proper way to the procreation and survival of the human race. The possibility of using recently discovered methods of artificial reproduction, beyond involving a grave lack of respect for human dignity,(15) does nothing to alter this inadequacy.”
CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS

And ... for the record, here is one MSM story regarding a Baptist minister who was 'caught', sexually abusing a young boy.

Pastor charged with sex abuse

154 posted on 01/29/2005 2:01:01 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: Publius6961
If you need to get creative to feed your ego and outrage, please be our guest.

Validates my comment.

155 posted on 01/29/2005 2:14:59 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Floyd R Turbo
And while making a fool of himself to the delight of others, every one knows he's right.

You agree with yourself only...

156 posted on 01/29/2005 2:23:30 PM PST by DBeers
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To: spunkets
If you can accept Him as God, then I am truly happy for you (not sarcastic, condescending, or negative, honestly). I can accept him as prophet but not as the son of God.
Ironically, I could accept Him as God. This may not endear me to many but I honestly don't give a shake. I think there is a narrow-mindedness among many, a deliberate blindness or refusal to accept alternate discussion. There is an inability to truly accept the spiritual aspects of Christianity.
It's so goal oriented. Heaven being the goal and the only way you're going to get their is by being born again. That whole deathbed conversion and accepting Jesus as your Savior thing is not incentive to living a true Christian life. You know, that whole charity, humility, modesty, open-mindedness that Jesus the individual tried to teach by example. That is a misrepresentation that is used to stop debate. Powerful are the hands which hold the keys to Heaven.
157 posted on 01/29/2005 2:23:55 PM PST by olde north church (I think, therefore iMac.)
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To: Raycpa

You quote Acts, I excerpted from Acts where Apostolic Bishops "considered" the matter. Why was a Bishop needed in that first century but not today?


158 posted on 01/29/2005 2:24:06 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: Just mythoughts

"Hail Mary, Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee."

These are the words of the Holy Writ. If even Martin Luther could understand the relationship of the Virgin Mary to Our Lord and our relationship with her for His sake, why can't you?


159 posted on 01/29/2005 2:25:54 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: narses

I find no reference to "apostolic bishops" in all of scripture. Please provide scripture reference so that i may understand your point.


160 posted on 01/29/2005 2:26:05 PM PST by Raycpa
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