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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
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Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper
Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country
In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.
"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.
President Bush
Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.
Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign a campaign supported by Savage.
"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."
Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.
But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."
At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.
Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.
For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.
"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.
In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.
Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.
Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.
Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.
The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.
"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.
Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.
Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.
"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPDs rule against enforcing immigration law."
The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.
"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."
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To: sinkspur
We are so priviledge to have the authority on what it means to be an American, a soldier, a Christian... Any other areas of expertise you'd like to share?
Oh ye tolerant and compassionate one...
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posted on
01/13/2004 8:18:10 AM PST
by
riri
To: Tamsey
Ike, 1954 1 million deported.
162
posted on
01/13/2004 8:20:51 AM PST
by
jpsb
(")
To: Modernman
I'm trying to focus on the Mars thing (think happy thoughts). Ugh!!! I wonder if Bush would have felt more obliged to play a conservative if no 9/11 in order to ward off a primary challenge. However, if the only credible challenger was McCain, he could've been even worse.
163
posted on
01/13/2004 8:21:18 AM PST
by
BroncosFan
(Pat Toomey for Senate!)
To: sinkspur
You ain't a soldier? Again, Marines aren't soldiers. Simple fact. We all learn something every day.
164
posted on
01/13/2004 8:21:46 AM PST
by
exmarine
( sic semper tyrannis)
To: sinkspur
If the plan doesn't get voted on, or gets voted down, will you still pout like a schoolboy and not vote for Bush?So what if it doesn't pass? We know what his INTENTIONS are, and once the election is over with, he won't be afraid to push his crappy agenda down our gargantas.
To: sinkspur; riri
"LOL!!!! Nothing like a little racism in the morning.
You ain't much of an American, riri."
Wasn't too long before we got the big racist card come out!
DESTROY THE MESSENGER NOT THE MESSAGE!!
DESTROY THE MESSENGER NOT THE MESSAGE!!
DESTROY THE MESSENGER NOT THE MESSAGE!!
166
posted on
01/13/2004 8:22:29 AM PST
by
AbsoluteJustice
(By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
To: Old Fud
Memo to Jr.: they have an identity. Criminal. Help them "leave the shadows", and begin deportation. Or push the CLEAR Act so that the states can do it themselves.
167
posted on
01/13/2004 8:23:52 AM PST
by
m1-lightning
(Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
To: sinkspur
Maybe you ought to get a job. Maybe you ought to come up with an argument...
168
posted on
01/13/2004 8:23:59 AM PST
by
exmarine
( sic semper tyrannis)
To: Texas_Dawg
I wouldn't say I SUPPORT him. I listen to him. SOme of what he says makes sense, some of what he says is just inflamatory rhetoric to get a rise out of his audience. I don't even think he personally believes it.
You can't compare Savage to people like Hannity, O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, etc. He's a showman - a conservative showman, but a showman. He more entertainment than politics. A light hitter from a mental perspective.
Is he anti-Christian? I haven't heard him say anything really anti-Christian, but I only listen to him at times in my workshop when I'm in there late.
My favorite radio show conservatives are Mark Levin, G. Gordon Liddy, Hannity and Monica Whalley.
169
posted on
01/13/2004 8:24:09 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Remember the Alamo!!!!!)
To: m1-lightning
Yeah, and I also remember that a lot of the Texicans defending the Alamo were of Mexican descent. The Texas Revolution wasn't about white guys fighting hispanic guys. It was about totalitarianism against freedom. Freedom won.
To: B4Ranch; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; Capitalist Eric; hershey; TomInNJ; blam; ...
"If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders."
A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform
What Is Considered An Illegal Activity Under Immigration Law?
Here are some examples of the most common violations of United States Immigration laws:
Examples:
(This is not a complete list of violations.)
- filing false statements on applications or petitions
- making a false claim that you are a United States citizen
- making, altering or using counterfeit immigration documents
- making, altering or using counterfeit documents to support immigration applications or petitions
- failing to report the arrival of illegal aliens
- assisting or encouraging aliens to come to the United States in violation of the law
- harboring an illegal alien
- knowingly employing aliens who do not have permission to work in the United States
- recruiting or referring for a fee aliens who do not have permission to work in the United States
- failing to complete and maintain immigration Form I-9 for all new employees, whether citizens or aliens
- failing to depart the United States when ordered removed (deported)
- entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place which is not authorized
- attempting to enter the United States by misrepresenting (lying about) material facts
- entering into a marriage to circumvent the immigration laws
- entering or attempting to enter the United States without permission after having been removed (deported)
- assisting an alien to enter the United States for prostitution or other immoral purposes
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posted on
01/13/2004 8:25:01 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
To: sinkspur
"From what you wrote, you ain't much of a Christian, either."
I have no beliefs Sinkspur but I would have to say that from what I have read the only person that casts judgement upon others is christ himself. That being said if you yourself are espousing to be a "christian" then you yourself are not following Christian values. Then again I once read also the he without sin cast the 1st stone.
You are a hypocrit.
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posted on
01/13/2004 8:25:43 AM PST
by
AbsoluteJustice
(By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
To: exmarine
Then could you reconcile the clause in the Constitution that MANDATES that the federal govt protect us from foreign invasions and Bush's lack of border enforcement? Please try... No president has enforced the borders against illegals in the last 20 years. That's not exactly "an invasion." Anyway, these people are working here, aren't they? They're keeping your vegetable prices low.
I see Bush's plan as a way to initiate a discussion on this subject. It will likely not be what he wants, nor will it be the full amnesty that Democrats want.
Something's got to be done, and he's making an attempt, short of deporting 10 million people, which the American people WILL NOT STAND FOR.
173
posted on
01/13/2004 8:26:03 AM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: FITZ
It's all about Mexican oil. If Fox shuts off the taps, we are in deep tapioca (or worse).
To: Final Authority
"... I think NH will not put GWB on the top of the vote count this time. He only won over Gore by about a couple thousand votes and I like many conservatives will take a "walk" this election. Many are saying, Go Pat Go..."
Oh, goody. I can't wait to have President Dean in office! How can we ever thank you? Your principled stand will not go unrewarded. Al-quaeda will be here sometime around 9/11/05 to thank you personally!
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posted on
01/13/2004 8:26:59 AM PST
by
jim35
To: Sabertooth
"Savage is being a counterproductive idiot to say that Bush should be impeached for this." Sometimes, Savage makes sense. His overreaction here doesn't.
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posted on
01/13/2004 8:27:00 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
To: Mr. K
I'll freep mail you my ##
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posted on
01/13/2004 8:27:15 AM PST
by
The Mayor
(The more you look forward to heaven, the less you'll desire of earth.)
To: Sabertooth
"The only possible good that could come of this is if the Democrats in Congress become sufficiently emboldened to oppose Bush's Amnesty, because it is "not enough," in coalition with Republicans who recognize it for the unmitigated disaster that it is."
Once again, you nailed it down tight!
To: riri
We are so priviledge to have the authority on what it means to be an American, a soldier, a Christian... Any other areas of expertise you'd like to share?You still wanna leave? I've got a brother-in-law in the moving business.
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posted on
01/13/2004 8:28:01 AM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: ZULU
Fwiw, Michael Savage is a terrible voice for conservatism. One could very easily make a case that he is a racist. He was recently caught wishing a caller he believed to be gay that he hopes he gets AIDS and dies. He is a defender of Slobodan Milosevic, who is a socialist. He might not be anti-Christian, but as a Christian, I would have a hard time defending giving Michael Savage my time or defense.
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posted on
01/13/2004 8:29:33 AM PST
by
Texas_Dawg
(Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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