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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: MEGoody
Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

A lie. Savage admitted on the air that someone else may have come up with the phrase first, but he was really the creator because he popularized the phrase.

Now, I do understand why Savage feels the way he does. There are times that I feel betrayed by my governments intentional disregard of securing our borders. At times I believe that Bush is just pandering for votes, but this scenario presents itself:

Put together an "amnesty" (and this is essentially what this program is) and you are saying to Mexico: "Hey, come on down! You want to come here legally? Great! No problem! In order to be here, from now on, you must follow these procedures...."

Once this game is established, you can then fence off and mine the border.

The Administration can then claim to have solved both an immigration problem and a terrorist problem. Anyone killed by coming here illegally is then either a terrorist or a criminal. Why else would anyone try to sneak in if they can be here legally with "Guest Worker" status?

I'm not sure whether I'm being facetious....

21 posted on 01/13/2004 6:13:14 AM PST by freebilly
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To: FITZ
I thought Impeach Bush was extreme.
22 posted on 01/13/2004 6:13:27 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: JustPiper
...This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage,...

Well, Clinton's sale of hi-tech weaponry to China, who also plans to destroy us, is the worst. But bending over for Vincente is pretty close. The destruction of our borders is the end of our nation, whether the pom pom girls can see it or not.
23 posted on 01/13/2004 6:14:15 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
While I disagree strongly with the immigration proposal, I think Savage is completely off base. There are certainly ways to address the problem short of impeaching the President. If anything, Savage is playing into the rabid left-wingers' (read Wesley Crusher Clark and Michael Cartman Moore) hands.

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

24 posted on 01/13/2004 6:14:27 AM PST by mhking (MaldiciĆ³n justa.)
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To: JustPiper
Jeez. You can vehemently disagree with the policy without calling for impeachment.

When was the last time Michael Savage had a good day? I think some chemical reaction is permanently awry with the guy.
25 posted on 01/13/2004 6:15:02 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts....)
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To: mhking
Exactly! Savage is a moron.
26 posted on 01/13/2004 6:15:55 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: freebilly
I'm not sure whether I'm being facetious..

Good insight on your reply.
I tend to agree.

27 posted on 01/13/2004 6:16:10 AM PST by evad (Welcome back Joe Gibbs...we've been waitin')
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To: The Mayor
I was listening to his show last night and couldn't beleive what I was hearing.

Same here. He's through in my book. All these radio hosts do is shamelessly peddle their books (Hannity included). I'm tired of them all.

28 posted on 01/13/2004 6:16:14 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: JustPiper
Stupid Savage. It's a Plan that will be tied up for years in Congress. If I were any more cynical, I'd suggest Bush wants to register illegal aliens so we can ship them back in box cars. I'm suprised dems havn't accused Bush of this nazi final solution.
29 posted on 01/13/2004 6:16:57 AM PST by larryjohnson (Gramma Olga from Sweden,May 1900.)
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To: Brad Cloven
"Read my lips. No new taxes."
30 posted on 01/13/2004 6:16:58 AM PST by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: The Mayor
Hey guy! You have been pretty active the last few days - or maybe I just started to notice
31 posted on 01/13/2004 6:17:52 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: JustPiper
It's just a proposal, and he isn't proposing amnesty..

At least this way we can monitor (at least to the extent of the INS's sub-par abilities) and TAX them.

32 posted on 01/13/2004 6:18:31 AM PST by Axiom Nine (Death to all fanatics!)
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To: The Mayor
I was listening to his show last night and couldn't beleive what I was hearing.

I started another thread last night, venting about this moron... Not only was he criticizing Bush on this, he was also spewing out the liberal lies, like saying tax cuts favor only the rich, etc. He's becomee a DISGRACE. Thank God we have Laura Ingraham on in NYC at the same time, she's wonderful.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1056597/posts

33 posted on 01/13/2004 6:20:05 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: JustPiper

While I agree with the dictum that Impeachable offenses are whatever Congress says they are, and while I also believe that President Bush's Amnesty/"not an Amnesty" is an incredible blunder, both for party and country, Savage is being a counterproductive idiot to say that Bush should be impeached for this.

President Bush's Amnesty should be defeated the old fashioned ways:
by moral suasion and smart counter-politics..


34 posted on 01/13/2004 6:20:16 AM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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To: FITZ
I have wondered the same thing. When I voted for Bush I truly thought I was voting for a president who would represent AMERICA. Never again!
35 posted on 01/13/2004 6:20:44 AM PST by ImpotentRage
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To: Marine Inspector
No Bush in 2004.

Great- another single issue voter. I suppose Clark or Dean would be better?

36 posted on 01/13/2004 6:20:51 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: freeperfromnj
All these radio hosts do is shamelessly peddle their books (Hannity included). I'm tired of them all.

I couldn't agree more, Laura Ingram is one of the worst. Everyone of them has a book, I should write a book, well that wouldn't do any good, I couldn't promote it.

37 posted on 01/13/2004 6:21:17 AM PST by The Mayor (The more you look forward to heaven, the less you'll desire of earth.)
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To: MEG33
Call a spade a spade. Just because you don't like someone calling it a shovel, instead of a rake, is in no way extreme.

The negatives against Bush are piling up against the positives. An amnesty program, even if Bush felt there were "Constitutional questions", WOULD get passed in Congress. Just like McCain-Feingold and the Medicare give-away and the Farm Bill and the African Aids package and only the Gods know what else.

Tancredo will be my write-in candidate if nothing else.

38 posted on 01/13/2004 6:21:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: MEG33
Impeach doesn't mean they are removed from office. I think a lot of us question the ties between Bush and Fox and why Fox seems to have so much power here. He's nothing but a foreign leader but he can demand we change our laws --- and what other foreign leader is in that position?
39 posted on 01/13/2004 6:21:39 AM PST by FITZ
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To: JustPiper
Savage and the like wont be happy until we have interlocking fields of fire and 500,000 troops on the border! Earth to Mike!
40 posted on 01/13/2004 6:22:18 AM PST by TheGunny
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