From 85% White to Minority in Our Own Country by 2050

Independent Sentinel ^ | 5-30-26 | M Dowling

[MarlonRando]

Between the falling birth rates, chain migration, anchor babies, and the planned demographic changes by our social engineers, non-whites will be the majority by 2050 or sooner if Democrats get back into office. They would open the borders again. There is no reason to think otherwise. If you think they will be nice to white people, you are sadly mistaken.

For some reason, Democrats decided white people can’t have their own country. Possibly, it’s because they see them all as future Democrats they can manipulate due to their neediness.

[Cronos]

do you still sing “ich bin ausländer ich spreche nicht gut deutsch”?

[ek_hornbeck]

What you say is correct. Even if we grant the assumption that the problems with e.g. Somalis, Hmong, Central Americans and other Third World immigrants are purely cultural and not at all biological as Cronos believes, it would take generations to assimilate such people at a huge social cost.

This begs the question of whether it's worth tolerating several generations of dysfunctional behavior for the sake of hoping to get normal or at least tolerable human beings generations later. The answer is "no", even under this most optimistic scenario.

[ek_hornbeck]

As you admit that Asian civilizations have ‘waxed and waned,’ then you have already conceded that ‘civilizational status’ is a temporary, institutional state, not a biological one.

You seem to be intentionally and qute stubbornly missing the point that I was making with those examples.

The fact that Asian civilizations waxed and waned (as did western cultures) suggests that they are capable of advancement even at low points. In contrast, some peoples never had a waxing phase (or a civilization) to begin with, which makes me doubt that they're collectively capable of doing so - e.g. Sub-Saharan Africa never produced anything on par with any of the civilizations that I listed.

[ek_hornbeck]

From my time visiting Tennessee, Knoxville seems like a place I wouldn’t mind living in, but I’d never want to live in Nashville. I just don’t see the latter’s appeal, apart from not being a complete dump like Memphis!

[OldHarbor]

Nashville, 30 years ago I had a brief stint as a OTR trucker . In Nashville, one of the truck stops was crime central . The cops were always there, morning, noon, and night.

Hookers openly plying their trade in the parking lots, drug sales, junkies roaming around, panhandlers , thefts, assaults.

Hope things improved.

[Cronos]

“Sub-Saharan Africa never produced anything on par with any of the civilizations that I listed.”

And I thought so too until learning more about the Kingdom of Aksum - Ethiopia and the Mali and Songhai empires. Furthermore, which is why I quoted Heart of Darkness —> the fact that the Britons in the past were head-hunters and not civilized doesn’t mean that they couldn’t do so in the future - if their culture changed.

Sorry, did I say Britons, I meant Botswana

[Cronos]

“This begs the question of whether it’s worth tolerating several generations of dysfunctional behavior for the sake of hoping to get normal or at least tolerable human beings generations later. The answer is “no”, even under this most optimistic scenario. “

As i wrote above - that question “should the USA take the lowest of these in?” is a different question from “are they GENETICALLY capable of building a great civilization on their own”

To the latter, the answer is yes - provided the other variables (environment, culture, societal norms, laws etc.) are met

To the former, the answer is “No” - the USA doesn’t NEED to take anyone in. If it wants, it can take the best and the brightest, but it is under no obligation to take anyone from anywhere

[Antoninus]

This is all nonsense for the most part. By 2050, about 80% of the "hispanic" people in the US right now will be considered "white".

As for the IQ stuff, it hearkens back to the eugenic/dysgenic garbage of the early 20th century. My people (southern Italians) were thought to be dysgenic and generally pretty stupid. Well, we proved that wrong. ;-)

[alexander_busek]

This is all nonsense for the most part. By 2050, about 80% of the "hispanic" people in the US right now will be considered "white".

So, pretty much as they were back in the 1950s?

Regards,

[ek_hornbeck]

By 2050, about 80% of the "hispanic" people in the US right now will be considered "white".

Most Mexicans and Central Americans in the US have much more American Indian than European ancestry. And the vast majority of them come to the US and establish themselves in the same squalid slum barrios as back home - i.e. not very likely to pass for the Cleaver family anytime soon.

As for the IQ stuff, it hearkens back to the eugenic/dysgenic garbage of the early 20th century.

People can call it "garbage" all they like, but it doesn't change the fact that dull people tend to have dull children and bright people tend to have bright children. It also doesn't change the fact that according to research from Jason Richwine, the mean IQ of Mexican and Meso-American immigrants to the US is in the 80s (the average IQ in Mexico is in the 90s, but the more successful, middle class Mexicans with more Spanish ancestry aren't usually the ones who come here).

[Antoninus]

Most Mexicans and Central Americans in the US have much more American Indian than European ancestry.

How many American Americans have Native American blood in them? Answer: At least 10 million that readily acknowledge it, but probably about double or triple that number. You wouldn't know it because most of them have names like James McDonald or Michele Johnson.

Hispanic immigrants readily intermarry with the native population after one or two generations, just like the Italians did. As long as there isn't a constant spigot of mass immigration from Latin countries, those folks readily assimilate.

[ek_hornbeck]

As long as there isn't a constant spigot of mass immigration from Latin countries

Which there is an has been for decades. The Trump administration has put a dent in it - it's a good start, but only a dent.

How many American Americans have Native American blood in them? Answer: At least 10 million that readily acknowledge it, but probably about double or triple that number. You wouldn't know it because most of them have names like James McDonald or Michele Johnson.

I'm not talking about trace amounts of Amerindian ancestry - i.e. someones great or great-great grandparent. Most Mexican and Central American immigrants (illegal and legal) are from the poor Mestizo classes who have more Amerindian than Spanish ancestry.

[Antoninus]

Most Mexican and Central American immigrants (illegal and legal) are from the poor Mestizo classes who have more Amerindian than Spanish ancestry.

And in two or three generations, those people will all have assimilated and become Americans who are almost indistinguishable from "white" Americans, except that some of them may be slightly darker than the norm. And that brings us back to the starting point.

Eugenics is crap.

[ek_hornbeck]

Eugenics is crap.

So you really believe that there's no correlation between the mental abilities of parents and that of their children, as left-wing dogma likes to claim? We aren't exactly getting the best and brightest of Latin America as immigrants - which is why their neighborhoods are ridden with poverty and crime, and will continue to breed more poverty and crime. In measures of education and socioeconomic achievement, they perform somewhat better than blacks but well behind white people.

[Antoninus]

So you really believe that there's no correlation between the mental abilities of parents and that of their children, as left-wing dogma likes to claim?

Nope. I believe that it is possible to be so "intelligent" that you fail to reproduce. That seems to be the mind-set of about 90% of the high-IQ people out there.

For me, baseline intelligence involves the desire to reproduce yourself and pass your genes on to future generations. If you're too stupid to do that, then perhaps IQ is not a good measure of intelligence after all.

[ek_hornbeck]

By that logic, bacteria and rats are absolutely brilliant.

I take it that you have no problem with the invasion of America by Third World peoples, since they too breed prolifically (while contributing almost nothing of value to society).

[Antoninus]

I take it that you have no problem with the invasion of America by Third World peoples, since they too breed prolifically.

You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. I said above that as long as there isn't a massive spigot of immigration, folks will assimilate. That's what needs to happen.

By that logic, bacteria and rats are absolutely brilliant.

I'm talking about people. You're talking about pests. Human beings aren't vermin.

If your IQ is so high that you don't reproduce, then IQ is a flawed measure of intelligence. Indeed, it seems to run counter to the theory of natural selection.

[ek_hornbeck]

So apparently, by your criteria, some street thug in the barrio or the hood who spawns a dozen plus bastard offspring (most of whom will grow up to be a drain on society) is a more valuable member of society than an engineer or MD with 1-2 kids.

You obviously didn't think this through very carefully, if what you said had the least merit, Ghana and Eritrea with their sky-high birthrates would be economic and technological powerhouses. In reality, when low quality Third World peoples breed prolifically, they're just breeding more poverty. They do the same when they invade advanced nations.

[Antoninus]

some street thug in the barrio or the hood who spawns a dozen plus bastard offspring (most of whom will grow up to be a drain on society) is a more valuable member of society than an engineer or MD with 1-2 kids.

You really do have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? Nowhere did I say anything like the above.

The problem is that the engineer today is having ZERO kids. If he is having intercourse with women at all (not a given, sadly), the woman is either on contraception or aborting his offspring for the sake of convenience.

I would argue that the street thug, as degenerate as his morals might be, is in reality acting more intelligently than the engineer. Like it or not, his offspring will inherit the world. The engineer will get a tombstone...if that...and be forgotten forever.