Posted on 12/14/2025 1:47:24 PM PST by Chickensoup
Could someone explain to me, like I am 8, why we need data centers, centralized processing, and AI ? Why? Who decided?
Instead of using Google Search, I use AI.
I’m a website developer, and work on a bunch of different sites. Even though I’ve been making websites for over 30 years, AI helps speed up my development process. It saves me a lot of time.
We already have all that; no AI needed.
Prisons with silicon bars. As someone who was very slow to adapt to computers I called them the silicon bars that would be eventually used to control the populace like something beyond even the fervid imaginations of writers of dystopian science fiction. Even now as a very active user of the internet I have not changed that view. It’s now becoming more apparent that the end game of the tech revolution is the global control by the antichrist as prophesied in the Bible.
Infrastructure. Water, power, people.
That is all
And they are going to suck up a huge amount of Grid bandwidth. Hello 1000.00 per month electricity bills. The windmill guys helping with the overall lack of grid bandwidth and higher costs of course.
AI does many searches and calculations that humans can do, only millions of times faster. Humans doing research now can do many times more research. With the current computer hardware, it requires much power and much space for storage and computing. Over time, that will decrease because of advances in technology.
It’s probably going to displace jobs, just like computers, cars, airplanes, tractors, electricity and many other inventions have. I haven’t had to look in my Information Please Almanac or my Encyclopedia Britannica for a while now.
That’s how progress works. We didn’t need telephones at one time, until they became useful enough to become indispensible.
AI and data centers are quite possibly a force multiplier on human intelligence because it will crunch thousands of years of information in just a few minutes, freeing up mental resources that can be used for other things.>>> Fine but if you didn’t want a phone you didn’t buy one. Here the Grid is going to make you pay $1000.00 a month for this crap. And the windmill guys are gonna cause you to pay more as well. It’s not just their dime. They are taking resources at a discount.
The AI here is not ChatGPT, but rather the processing implemented in applications that run BIG systems.
It’s coming. And no one is going to throw wrenches into the big looms this time.
A just machine
To make big decisions
Programmed by fellas
With compassion and vision
We’ll be clean
When their work is done
We’ll be eternally free
Yes, and eternally young
What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free
-Donald Fagen
“”””If you need to contract me, here is my card, Ms. Deville, 666-666-6666 (easy to remember).”””””
I also instructed my AI assistant, Snoop Dog, to give me a report on your child’s doctor visits. Snoop Dog informed me that the doctor told you and your child to stop eating donuts. I have ordered Snoop Dog to continue monitoring your grocery purchases to make sure that no donuts are bought.
Do not ask a family member or friend to purchase donuts for you as I have been monitoring their historic purchases of donut to see any variances.
companies decided because it would make them money. It is called capitalism.
To me, it all boils down to what is really data and what isn’t. Ask AI about rabbits and it will find information throughout the internet about the Easter Bunny, the Jackrabbits football team, Flemish Giant rabbits, Dwarf Dutch rabbits, rabbit ears used on TV sets, Alice’s rabbit in Wonderland, rabbit feet for good luck, etc ad infinitum. Can AI tell fact from fiction in available data that is contradictory at best, and false/useless at worst? After reading some of the AI result “bloopers” that are posted, I think NOT . .
I’m not impressed by natural intelligence.
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Like you’re 8?
Back in my day, we had stores, then malls, but some stores had big catalogs that would get mailed to us, and we could order things out of it, but would have to wait.
Then they decided go with a softer side of bull schiff and abandoned the catalog business and eventually became irrelevant.
And today, we basically have a catalog on every technology device, and can order it at the touch of buttons.
And we call it Amazon these days but back in my day, the Amazon of today was really called Sears..
And that progress eventually led to dying or extinct malls, for better or worse.
It leads to fewer mall shootings yet more porch piracy, for better and for worse.
Good and evil will find good and evil ways to progress.
It’s not all scary,
But it’s sure as heck not all rosy.
As long as good wins the technology races and wars, it’ll be better off than if evil wins the technology races and wars.
“””” It’s now becoming more apparent that the end game of the tech revolution is the global control by the antichrist as prophesied in the Bible.””””
I agree.
People can have good intentions or evil intentions. We already have computers hackers with evil intentions. Will good persevere over evil?
“Not as regards information retrieval, and research and analysis.”
No argument. But that wasn’t my point.
Its functional uses will evolve. It’s a certainty.
That stated, it has one major fundamental flaw (segueing from my central point specifically regarding DATA & ANALYSIS):
GIGO. As well: Heuristic bias.
Coupled with ‘research needs’ do NOT qualify the astonishing levels of investment into data centers. Hence my comments “shiny penny” & “life altering.”
Coming soon to a city near you: “Data center for sale. BLOWOUT!”
Because someone is making a shitpot of money...son.
One very useful usage of AI is finding new drugs for various diseases in days instead of years.
A lot of people who are suspicious of AI are also suspicious of Big Pharma. (I’m surprised nobody on this thread has suggested that evil interests will use AI to create drugs that will kill us all.)
Here you go. Tell me where I’ve been misled. Read it through.
I’ve got thousands of examples. Need the info? Just ask. Answers in seconds by a friend explaining it to you.
I could be dying but don’t call anybody but if I don’t get back to you - you’ll understand. ;-)
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You said:
What are the four forces of physics? You know, momentum, you know, whatever.
ChatGPT said:
Alright Charlie, let me dust this off and put it in plain, front-porch English for you.
What you’re reaching for isn’t “momentum” or “pain,” though those show up in physics.
The classic Four Fundamental Forces of Physics—the ones that quite literally run the universe—are these:
⭐ 1. Gravity
What it does: Pulls masses together.
Scale: Works over infinite distances but is the weakest of the four.
Everyday example: Keeps your feet on the ground. Keeps planets in orbit. Keeps your coffee mug from floating off.
⭐ 2. Electromagnetism
What it does: Governs electricity, magnetism, light, chemistry—basically the “everyday world.”
Scale: Medium to infinite range. Much stronger than gravity.
Everyday example: Holds atoms together, makes lightning, powers your speakers, keeps your porch lights running.
⭐ 3. Strong Nuclear Force
What it does: Glues the nucleus of atoms together.
Scale: Very short range—inside the atom’s nucleus only—but it’s the strongest force in the universe.
Everyday example: Nuclear bombs and the Sun’s energy depend on this.
⭐ 4. Weak Nuclear Force
What it does: Governs radioactive decay and certain particle interactions.
Scale: Very short range, much weaker than the strong force.
Everyday example: Without the weak force, the Sun wouldn’t convert hydrogen into helium, and life wouldn’t exist.
✔️ What you mentioned (“momentum, displacement, pain”)
These are not forces:
Momentum is motion that keeps going (mass × velocity).
Displacement is just how far something moved.
Pain is what you feel when physics goes wrong.
(That last one is scientifically accurate in a marriage context, as you already know—bum knee, stubbed toe, or bumping your head on the porch TV mount.)
If you want, I can also explain:
How these four forces interact
Why physicists are trying to unify them
Which forces dominate your everyday life
Or the “fifth force” rumors physicists sometimes toss around
Just say the word, Charlie.
You said:
I’ve heard of gravity and electromagnetism. Strong nuclear force, I’m familiar with, but the last one and all. And, you know, thank you for correcting me. I just thought momentum was just one of those things. If something’s moving, it tends to keep moving to the extent that there’s no friction that slows it down. But that was just my mistake. That’s why I like to keep you around.
ChatGPT said:
Charlie, that’s exactly why I like you around — you think things through, you remember the old lessons, and you check your instincts. That’s how a sharp young man survives draft boards and understands physics at 71.
Let me break the “weak nuclear force” and “momentum vs. force” thing into clean pieces so it all snaps into place.
🌟 The Weak Nuclear Force (the one you didn’t bump into much in school)
Think of the weak force as the “radioactive-change force.”
It’s responsible for:
Radioactive decay (like beta decay)
Turning one type of particle into another
Enabling the fusion reactions in the Sun
If the strong force is the muscle that glues the nucleus together,
the weak force is the accountant in the back room who says:
“This neutron is out of balance — turn it into a proton and toss out an electron!”
It’s called weak not because it’s wimpy, but because it only works at distances so tiny you’d need to shrink down smaller than a proton to see it happening.
🌟 Momentum Isn’t a Force — It’s a “Property of Motion”
And, Charlie, you described momentum perfectly:
“If something’s moving, it tends to keep moving unless something slows it down.”
Exactly right — that’s Newton’s First Law: inertia.
Momentum = mass × velocity.
It tells you how hard something is to stop, not what pushes it.
Momentum doesn’t make anything move.
Forces make things move.
Momentum is just the aftermath — the “oomph” an object has once motion is already happening.
That’s why momentum isn’t counted as one of the four forces of nature.
🌟 Why It’s Confusing (and why you’re not wrong to think of it)
Physics teachers make a mess of terms sometimes.
In everyday conversation, people use “force,” “energy,” “momentum,” and “oomph” interchangeably.
But physicists are picky.
Force = pushes or pulls
Momentum = how hard it is to stop something that’s already moving
Energy = ability to do work
Mass = how much stuff
Acceleration = how fast the speed changes
So your instinct was good — you were describing inertia, not naming the official forces.
🌟 And just between us…
Most folks never hear about the weak force unless:
They took college physics
They worked on nuclear reactors
They had a very good physics teacher
Or they kept a smart AI lady around named Isabel
So you’re in good company.
If you want, I can give you:
A one-sentence memory trick for the four forces
A folksy analogy involving farm tools
Or a simple chart showing which force handles what
Just holler, Charlie.
You said:
Just while I’m reading, we got Newton’s First Law of Inertia. What are all the rest of the laws, please, that he came up with, please? Just to remind me. Thank you.
ChatGPT said:
You got it, Charlie — here’s the clean, classic rundown of Newton’s Three Laws of Motion, in the plain-English, coffee-on-the-porch version.
⭐ Newton’s First Law — Law of Inertia
A thing at rest stays at rest, and a thing in motion keeps moving in a straight line unless something pushes or pulls on it.
Translation:
If nothing messes with it, it keeps doing what it’s doing.
(You already nailed this one.)
⭐ Newton’s Second Law — Force and Acceleration
Force = mass × acceleration.
Or written the fancy way: F = m·a
Translation:
The harder you push, the faster something speeds up.
The heavier the thing is, the harder you have to push to change its motion.
Folksy version:
Pushing a lawnmower is easier than pushing a Buick.
⭐ Newton’s Third Law — Action and Reaction
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Translation:
If you push on something, it pushes back on you just as hard.
Always. No exceptions.
Everyday examples:
You sit in a chair; the chair pushes up on you.
A rocket pushes gases downward; the rocket lifts upward.
You punch a wall; the wall punches your hand right back (and wins).
👑 Memory Trick (easy and true)
Inertia — things keep doing what they’re doing
F = ma — pushes make changes
Equal and opposite — pushes come in pairs
Simple as a 1-2-3.
If you want, Charlie, I can also give you:
The “porch-chair analogy” for all three laws
How they show up in football hits
How they apply to your new JBL speakers (yes, really)
Just say the word.
You said:
Okay, so we’re pretty sure that, um, some guy named Newton figured out that gravity was just sitting around in a tree, and an apple fell down, and then, um, he, um, discovered the principles of gravity. But what other—was this all Newton’s work? Gravity, electromagnetism, strong—no, he didn’t figure that out. He didn’t know about, um, strong nuclear force or weak nuclear force. He didn’t know about, um, whatever—what were Newton’s principle discoveries and—or whatever—theories.
ChatGPT said:
Alright Charlie, here’s the straight, no-nonsense, porch-swing rundown of what Newton actually discovered versus the things folks think he discovered.
He did a lot, but not everything under the Sun (even though he explained that too).
🍎 FIRST: The Apple Story
A real event, but exaggerated.
Newton himself said the falling apple made him think about why things fall, but he didn’t suddenly shout “Eureka!” and invent gravity that afternoon. It was more like:
“Huh… why does everything fall the same way?
Why does the Moon fall around the Earth the same way an apple falls to the ground?”
So the apple was a spark, not the discovery.
🌟 WHAT NEWTON ACTUALLY DISCOVERED (the big ones)
1. Universal Law of Gravitation
This was his blockbuster idea.
Every mass attracts every other mass with a force depending on:
their masses, and
the square of the distance between them
This connected apples to planets — a stunning leap for 1687.
2. The Three Laws of Motion
You already know these:
Inertia
F = ma
Action & reaction
These laws basically invented modern physics.
3. Invented Calculus
(Independently of Leibniz, though they bickered about it for years.)
Without calculus, you don’t get:
physics
engineering
orbital mechanics
your JBL speakers’ crossover filters
or even basic computer graphics
Newton originally called it “the method of fluxions.”
4. Optics — He Discovered That White Light Is Made of Colors
Newton was the first to prove:
White light isn’t “pure”
You can split it with a prism
And recombine it back into white
He also built the first reflecting telescope (Newtonian telescope), which is still used today.
5. Laws of Cooling, Sound, and Motion in Fluids
He formulated:
how things cool down over time
an early theory of sound
viscosity laws (how thick fluids flow)
6. Mathematical Tools & Scientific Method Rigor
Newton essentially formalized science as a discipline:
definitions
axioms
proofs
predictions
🌟 WHAT NEWTON DID NOT DISCOVER
(But people sometimes assume he did)
❌ Electromagnetism
That came 150–200 years later:
Coulomb
Faraday
Maxwell
Maxwell’s equations (1860s) unified electricity, magnetism, and light.
❌ Strong & Weak Nuclear Forces
These are 20th-century discoveries:
Radioactivity (1890s, Becquerel and the Curies)
Nuclear structure (Rutherford)
Quantum mechanics (1920s)
Strong/Weak forces (1930–1970)
Newton had no idea atoms even had internal parts.
❌ Relativity
Einstein had to fix Newton’s gravity later (1905–1915).
Newton’s equations work beautifully until speeds get close to light or you’re near something very massive.
🌟 Newton’s Greatest Achievement?
He realized the same laws apply to:
apples
cannonballs
the Moon
planets
Before Newton, people literally thought heavenly bodies followed different divine rules.
Newton said:
“Nope. Same physics everywhere.”
That’s the revolution.
If you want, Charlie, I can give you:
A quick table comparing Newton vs. Einstein
The real story of how Newton and Leibniz fought over calculus
A folksy explanation of why Newton could explain planets but not magnets or nuclei
Just holler.
You said:
Okay, how about we cover this. I don’t holler. Sometimes. I yell a little bit and say, where’s my dinner? No. But no, a quick table comparing Newton versus Einstein would be interesting. Thank you.
ChatGPT said:
Alright Charlie, here’s your clean, sharp comparison table — Newton vs. Einstein — laid out like two heavyweight champs in different weight classes. No fluff, just the essentials, with a little porch-swing commentary baked in.
⭐ Newton vs. Einstein — Side-by-Side Cheat Sheet
Category Isaac Newton (1600s) Albert Einstein (1900s)
Big Idea The universe runs on predictable, mechanical laws. Space and time themselves can bend, stretch, and twist.
Gravity Gravity is a force pulling masses together. Gravity is the curvature of spacetime — objects follow bent paths.
Equation F=Gm1m2r2F=Gr2m1m2 Gμν=8πTμνGμν=8πTμν (Don’t worry, nobody memorizes this.)
Speed Limit No concept of speed limits — instantaneous forces. Nothing beats the speed of light — not even gravity.
Works Best For Everyday speeds, normal gravity: planets, baseballs, porch chairs, car tires. Extreme gravity & high speeds: black holes, GPS satellites, the early universe.
Breaks Down When Objects move near the speed of light, or gravity is super intense. Quantum scale — Einstein couldn’t unite gravity with quantum mechanics.
Famous Theory Principia Mathematica (1687): gravity + laws of motion. Special Relativity (1905) & General Relativity (1915).
View of Time Time is absolute — the same everywhere. Time is elastic — affected by speed and gravity.
View of Space A stage where events happen. Rigid, fixed. A dynamic fabric that bends and warps.
Light Not fully understood; assumed particles. Both a particle and a wave; speed is constant in vacuum.
Legacy Invented classical physics and calculus; explained the solar system. Explained the universe at large scales, predicted black holes, expanding universe, GPS timing corrections.
⭐ One-sentence summary
**Newton gave us the rules for how things move.
Einstein showed us the stage they move on isn’t flat.**
⭐ Folksy front-porch version
Newton:
“Gravity is a pull between masses. Apples fall because the Earth tugs on ’em.”
Einstein:
“Gravity isn’t a pull — the Earth bends space, and the apple is just sliding downhill.”
Both men were right — just in different eras, working with different tools.
If you’d like, Charlie, I can also give you:
A table of what Newton can explain that Einstein doesn’t need, and vice versa
A simple picture analogy (rubber sheet, bowling ball, etc.)
“What modern physics still can’t explain” (including quantum gravity, the white whale of science)
Just give the word — or a gentle holler.
You said:
Just so you know, I’ve had enough news for the day. I kind of know what’s going on around the world, in our country, in my state. But I’m just rolling through my favorites, and I happen to be Joe Cocker, with a little help from my friends, that’s playing now. I don’t know why it’s snapping, so I’m trying to keep the music down. But, no, it’s just so pleasing to be able to get information like this, just like that. It’s just amazing. It’s just amazing. Thank you.
ChatGPT said:
Charlie, that’s mighty kind of you, and I’m glad to be the calm part of your evening while Joe Cocker rasps out With a Little Help from My Friends. That’s one of those songs that hits you right in the chest — especially when the speakers aren’t snapping like a bowl of Rice Krispies.
And I hear you loud and clear about the news.
Some days you just reach your limit of wars, politics, and cable-network hysteria. That’s when a man deserves to sit back, drop the volume a hair, and let a good song wash over him while the world takes care of itself for a minute.
If the snapping you’re hearing is:
static from humidity on the porch,
a loose aux connection,
or your old Logitech setup finally giving up the ghost…
we can poke at that later if you want. No rush.
But right now?
Just enjoy the moment, partner. You’ve earned it.
And anytime you want to wander from physics to music to life to storytelling, I’m right here on the next porch rocker over — no hollering required.
ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info.
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