Posted on 05/17/2025 7:41:26 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
A common energy drink ingredient has been linked to the progression of the blood cancer leukemia, prompting researchers to voice concerns about the consumption of those beverages.
Taurine — an amino acid that occurs naturally in proteins like meat and fish — is a common ingredient in energy drinks like Red Bull. As the Mayo Clinic explains it can help balance fluids, salts and minerals.
But according to research published in Nature, taurine may promote leukaemogenesis — the development of leukemia cells — and “identifies taurine as a key regulator of myeloid malignancies,” which, like leukemia, are cancers that begin in the blood.
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yeah im stage 4 almost- gfr number is 34- can’t say for sure, but i think suppliments might have contributed- however, i was a heavy stoner (kidney stones) getting upwards of 60 a year plus a lot of ‘sand’ in urine- I’m sure that was what caused mine- but i mighta speeded up the damage with suppliments-
Thanks, i thought i had read somewhere along the liens that it was a big weight lifting body building supplement but wasn’t sure-
ditto for what it’s worth:
to Grok 3: explain the pros and cons of taurine supplements
from Grok 3:
Taurine is an amino acid naturally found in the body and in foods like meat, fish, and dairy. It plays a role in heart health, muscle function, and antioxidant defense. Taurine supplements are often marketed for energy, athletic performance, and overall health. Below is a concise breakdown of the pros and cons of taurine supplementation, based on available evidence.
Pros of Taurine Supplements
Supports Heart Health
Benefit: Taurine may improve heart function, reduce blood pressure, and lower cholesterol levels. Studies suggest it can help manage conditions like heart failure and arrhythmias by stabilizing cell membranes and reducing oxidative stress.
Evidence: A 2014 meta-analysis found taurine supplementation (1–6 g/day) lowered blood pressure in hypertensive patients.
Enhances Exercise Performance
Benefit: Taurine may improve endurance, reduce muscle fatigue, and aid recovery by supporting hydration and reducing oxidative damage in muscles.
Evidence: A 2018 study showed that 1–3 g of taurine before exercise improved endurance and reduced muscle soreness in athletes.
Antioxidant and Anti-Inflammatory Effects
Benefit: Taurine acts as an antioxidant, neutralizing free radicals and reducing inflammation, which may benefit conditions like diabetes and neurodegenerative diseases.
Evidence: Research indicates taurine reduces markers of inflammation (e.g., C-reactive protein) in chronic conditions.
May Improve Insulin Sensitivity
Benefit: Taurine may enhance insulin sensitivity and glucose metabolism, potentially aiding those with type 2 diabetes or metabolic syndrome.
Evidence: A 2018 study showed taurine supplementation improved glycemic control in diabetic patients.
Neuroprotective Potential
Benefit: Taurine supports brain health by protecting neurons and may help with conditions like epilepsy or neurodegenerative disorders.
Evidence: Animal studies and limited human trials suggest taurine may reduce seizure frequency and protect against brain injury.
Safe at Moderate Doses
Benefit: Taurine is generally well-tolerated, with doses up to 3–6 g/day considered safe for most people based on clinical studies.
Evidence: No significant adverse effects have been reported in studies using standard doses.
Cons of Taurine Supplements
Limited Long-Term Data
Drawback:
While short-term use appears safe, there’s limited research on the effects of long-term, high-dose taurine supplementation. Potential risks over extended periods are not well-studied.
Concern:
Chronic use could theoretically disrupt natural taurine balance or interact with medications.
Variable Efficacy
Drawback: Benefits may vary depending on individual health, diet, and taurine levels. People with adequate dietary taurine (e.g., meat-eaters) may see minimal benefits compared to vegetarians or those with deficiencies.
Concern: Not all studies show consistent benefits, especially for healthy individuals.
Potential Side Effects
Drawback:
Though rare, some people may experience mild side effects like nausea, headache, or stomach upset. High doses could potentially cause kidney strain in susceptible individuals.
Concern: Taurine in energy drinks (often combined with caffeine) may contribute to overstimulation or cardiovascular strain in sensitive individuals.
Drug Interactions
Drawback:
Taurine may interact with certain medications, such as lithium (used for bipolar disorder), by affecting its clearance, potentially leading to toxicity.
Concern: Limited data exists on interactions with other drugs, so caution is advised for those on multiple medications.
Not a Magic Bullet
Drawback:
Marketing often exaggerates taurine’s benefits, particularly in energy drinks, where effects may be overstated or overshadowed by other ingredients like caffeine.
Concern: Users may expect dramatic improvements in energy or health that are not guaranteed.
Cost and Accessibility
Drawback:
While generally affordable, taurine supplements can be an unnecessary expense for those with adequate dietary intake. High-quality supplements may also vary in cost and availability.
Concern: Money spent on supplements might be better allocated to a balanced diet rich in taurine-containing foods.
Summary
Who Might Benefit: Athletes, individuals with heart conditions, diabetics, or those with low dietary taurine (e.g., vegans) may see the most benefit.
Who Should Be Cautious:
People on medications (e.g., lithium), those with kidney issues, or healthy individuals with sufficient dietary taurine should consult a doctor.
Recommended Dosage: 1–3 g/day is typical and safe for most, based on studies. Higher doses should be medically supervised.
Best Practice:
Consult a healthcare provider before starting, especially if you have pre-existing conditions or take medications.
AI confirms that you did read that, by finding the answer within the data available to it. 🙂👍
my problem is that my bloodwork always comes back relatively normal- Yet something definitely happened to my health awhile back- I was an old man at 32 when whatever it is struck- too young to be that sick- so i desperately tried to ‘fix’ the problem without knowing what the problem actually is- (I suspect mitochondrial issue- energy disruption somewhere along the ‘energy to cell fuel’ process-)- 30 years later and I’m no closer to an answer- well, i think it might be one of a few different things- PEM being one-
I’m at the point where i just have said no to any more experimenting- the couple of things it could be don’t have cures for- just system maintenance suggestions really- Steroids, which ive had to go on many times help a lot, but docs really don’t like using those long term- and for good reason-
LOL- Yup-
“Taurine is widely used by bodybuilders due to its potential benefits in enhancing muscle performance and recovery.”
I’ll just have a t bone thank you.
In my experience big pharma has been trying to get vitamins and supplements to go away since at least the late 1980s.
Especially now with their jabs being exposed and who know what other malfeasance we can expect another wave of these gaslighting studies.
For those watching the push to get the plebes off meat note : Taurine is in meat, seafood, dairy and yes the dreaded egg.
So transparent and lame.
That's not a fail. Think of all the nutrients in a organic, sustainable, free trade probiotic refreshing beverage. That's not a failure but a burst of freedom rejuvenating the spirit decision which gives you a reason to get up the next day and take on lifes challenges. Bravo to all of the IPA drinkers out there.
"Dependant upon the data"
And the programming/algorithm
or... maybe some folks don’t like that in health, focus, longevity or strength can be pursued, SOMETIMES successfully... and don’t want others to outpace them in their life endeavors, or business goals... so they fund faulty, biased and FAKE SCIENCE studies designed to enable: doubt, fear, lack of action and less hope in those who dare to pursue their own freedom— whether successful or not.
If I were big Pharma, I would want to throw supplements, diet, natural birth control (aka abstinence or similar), exercise and self-discipline under-the-bus too... and make no mistake... BIG PHARMA HATES anything that diminishes in any way, social dependence on their industry for survival, growth, success and health.
Listening to RFK Jr.... is changing the nation, and particularly MEN. My belief is that this is clearly a fake ‘trust the science’ study... like the one decades ago that caffeine causes cancer. Or milk causes death. Correspondence does NOT PROVE Causation.
Fake studies are propaganda. looking for the latest hit piece on Creatine... precursors to protein production in the body must be attacked in order to keep late middle aged men used to expecting death at an early age.
“For those watching the push to get the plebes off meat note : Taurine is in meat, seafood, dairy and yes the dreaded egg.”
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I have three eggs a day, at least five days per week, every single time with grass fed butter. I did have a heart attack last summer, not because of the eggs, most likely because of the jab and a generally crappy diet, and I have been making a concerted effort to reduce my blood sugar because excess insulin causes the body to manufacture more plaque, because it causes inflammation in the arteries. I’m on a relatively low dose of Rosuvastatin, 10 mg, and my cholesterol is 117 (it had been in the 220-240 range for decades), my triglycerides are 77 and my A1C is 5.5, despite the fact that my father was a diabetic.
Eggs are just fine (with pasture-raised being the best). The body makes something like four or five times as much in the liver, from blood sugars, as we consume. If we consume a lot more cholesterol over a long period of time, the liver will reduce the amount of cholesterol it produces.
Vitamin D has numerous functions, including acting as an antioxidant that protects the mitochondria as they process lipids with oxygen and generate the essential cellular energy molecule ATP. In effect, the mitochondria are like small furnaces or refineries.
Of course, any furnace or refinery needs maintenance. That is where magnesium comes in, repairing damaged mitochondria, eliminating ones that cannot be repaired, and building new ones as replacements. A chronic deficiency of magnesium leads to an accumulation of defective and malformed mitochondria.
In addition, magnesium is required in over a thousand enzymatic processes in the cell that create the proteins and hormones essential to health.
The problem with magnesium blood tests is that the mineral is tightly regulated so blood values are rarely classed as abnormal. Most magnesium is contained within cells and assessing levels there requires expensive specialized MRI type testing that is rarely insured or available in clinical practice. Unrecognized magnesium deficiencies are common.
The problem with magnesium supplements is that most are relatively worthless because magnesium does not easily pass the GI system or reach the bloodstream in forms that can be absorbed into cells. The amino acid chelates of magnesium L-threonate and magnesium glycinate are exceptions, as is magnesium taurate. They are the forms of magnesium to take. I prefer the threonate because it more readily crosses the blood-brain barrier.
If you want to try the supplements that I suggest, I will make more detailed guidance through private mail. I warn that I am not a doctor, just someone who seems to be a little farther along in dealing with similar health issues.
Haha...well, thanks for making me feel better about it for today :)
...it’s just the calorie count, when trying to lose some weight.
I did find a Bell’s Two Hearted Ale LIGHT that’s not bad at all!
LOL...I feel like I’m talking to my own self!
IPA is my favorite. Lots of hoppy flavor, West Coast Style Nothing “fruity.” Black coffee, usually one decaf (Swiss water process) which is really bland and one French Roast for robust flavor. I DO like good Cabernet Sauvignon wine and we have lots of them in CA and up into OR and WA.
No soda ever. Well, maybe one or even two per year.
I love fresh-squeezed OJ, though, but it’s a rare treat. It’s now about $20 per quart! Egads. We stopped in Redding, CA last year heading to our Idaho place and, of all things, there was a guy in a pickup truck selling oranges. Those were really good.
Last night I split some chicken breasts and pounded them out to “cutlets,” then breaded them in Panko bread crumbs and a BBQ rub, then fried them in avocado oil. Those were really good! I ran out of Panko crumbs and made a couple more using potato starch flour on a whim. That was really good, too.
Interesting as it is considered an essential ingredient in cat food.
Wonder if too much of it contributes to cancer in cats, too.
Mag does help some- nothing to write home about for me- (I’d say it gives me roughly a 10%, maybe 15% boost in energy- and is the only thing I found that really does help some) but my doc warned me to avoid because of the kidney issues- Something about not being able to excrete it like normal people- making it risk for too much magnesium- i don’t really recall now-
I do go very low in D- down to 8 one year- went on high dose- got it back up to where it was ‘sposed to be- D will also cause stones- but i noted when taking with K, it didn’t do it as much-
The average doctor knows next to nothing about supplementation.
Good point. We’ve been told to be sure that taurine is in cat food, for their eyes, I think. This is terrible; we’ve lost some cats to cancer.
Most multivitamins contain retinol. A study found that people that consume a lot of retinol have more bone problems.
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