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DeepSeek hit by outages as users flock to Chinese AI startup
Reuters ^ | January 27, 2025 | Staff

Posted on 01/27/2025 7:18:41 AM PST by Red Badger

Chinese startup DeepSeek was on Monday hit by outages on its website after its AI assistant became the top-rated free application available on Apple's App Store in the United States.

The company resolved issues relating to its application programming interface and users' inability to log in to the website, according to its status page. The outages on Monday were the company's longest in around 90 days and coincides with its sky-rocketing popularity.

Powered by the DeepSeek-V3 model, which its creators say "tops the leaderboard among open-source models and rivals the most advanced closed-source models globally", the artificial intelligence application has surged in popularity among U.S. users since it was released on Jan. 10, according to app data research firm Sensor Tower.

The milestone highlights how DeepSeek has left a deep impression on Silicon Valley, upending widely held views about U.S. primacy in AI and the effectiveness of Washington's export controls targeting China's advanced chip and AI capabilities.

AI models from ChatGPT to DeepSeek require advanced chips to power their training. The Biden administration has since 2021 widened the scope of bans designed to stop these chips from being exported to China and used to train Chinese firms' AI models.

However, DeepSeek researchers wrote in a paper last month that the DeepSeek-V3 used Nvidia's H800 chips for training, spending less than $6 million.

Although this detail has since been disputed, the claim that the chips used were less powerful than the most advanced Nvidia products Washington has sought to keep out of China, as well as the relatively cheap training costs, has prompted U.S. tech executives to question the effectiveness of tech export controls.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: ai; china; deepseek; redchina
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1 posted on 01/27/2025 7:18:41 AM PST by Red Badger
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2 posted on 01/27/2025 7:21:21 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yep...................


3 posted on 01/27/2025 7:23:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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“became the top rated free application”

FREE comes with a price, that price most likely is a spy tool.

4 posted on 01/27/2025 7:24:38 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Red Badger

https://www.deepseekv3.net/en/chat

Says:

Loading is taking longer than expected
Please refresh the page if the chat doesn’t appear.

Is there any way that you can think of to fake AI?

An old Chinese curse, “May you live in interesting times.”


5 posted on 01/27/2025 7:28:43 AM PST by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: Deaf Smith
--- "FREE comes with a price, that price most likely is a spy tool."

Delete "most likely." It is a spy tool.

Consider how many online apps and updates and all the rest are accompanied by sales pitches and how many websites -- even ostensible conservative sites -- begin their pitches with "input name and email" and the like.

The CCP is no fool. They watch and learn. And they are offering FREE, just as do so many social media sites, busy with their own "collections."

We should remember "we" are the data as well as the access they want.

6 posted on 01/27/2025 7:30:49 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Red Badger

Amazing that this comes out the first week of Trump’s presidency.

Too amazing. I call BS.

Same tactic as the Covid hoax.


7 posted on 01/27/2025 7:33:54 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

They could suck off all of a user’s data to build their Collections - here it is very important to recall that ALL companies in China are beholden to the CCP and ALL companies are entangled with the PLA.

This is a program instituted by Xi Jinping called Civilian-Military Fusion - what each has, is given to the other.

So your data goes directly to the PLA for their fun and enjoyment to include your passwords, bank accounts, credit cards, email lists and names etc.

Enjoy your cutting edge AI experience!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepSeek


8 posted on 01/27/2025 7:42:30 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Red Badger

Why the hell do people flock to Chinese spyware crap, like flies to crap!? Absolute morons.


9 posted on 01/27/2025 7:43:59 AM PST by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: Deaf Smith
I get suspicion with China but this isn't some software package that you download and run. It's a model that you run in your own infrastructure and applications. It's a different tech AND they released the code and they model weights (the inner design parameters) as free open source. There is a concern with bias (the commies used suspect training data that represents their world view - ask it about Taiwan for example and you get no nuance, it's part of China - period , for example). So you might think 'can it be trusted or is it trying to influence us subtly' maybe but I think the traditional idea of spyware isn't relevant.

Let's face it: China isn't eating our lunch on AI but it's certainly pacing us neck and neck and they may be leading in some ways.

10 posted on 01/27/2025 7:49:09 AM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: PIF
Our data goes less far than many. We have no "social media" accounts, don't freely hand out access, and our spam -- whether in inbox or snail mail -- is very limited.

Until such time as the average Joe learns "free" isn't free, the "morons" ( as a following comment call them ) will give access as they will.

Have you a geopolitical solution? We've adopted a most personal solution.

11 posted on 01/27/2025 7:59:40 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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p


12 posted on 01/27/2025 8:00:31 AM PST by gattaca (Once a nation loses control of its borders, it is no longer a nation...Ronald Reagan)
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To: Red Badger

“DeepSeek”?

The Chinese either need to work on their branding or they just don’t care to hide it anymore - because they know we will download anything.


13 posted on 01/27/2025 8:17:22 AM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Red Badger
Scalability matters. I built a desktop version of a system that could handle 100% functionality of the enterprise version. The company execs used my desktop version to show venture capitalists what could be done. My little boxes would handle about 10 users concurrently. The enterprise level scaling was for 250,000 customers to be rolled out in 6 months. The rooms full of H1B hires failed spectacularly. They weren't ready to go in time and the startup died.

My point in sharing that experience is that the DeepSeek platform is much like my desktop version of the enterprise. It works well, but is already demonstrating problems of scalability and processing volume. It costs real money to build powerful infrastructure that can stand up to heavy processing loads.

14 posted on 01/27/2025 8:17:32 AM PST by Myrddin
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15 posted on 01/27/2025 8:20:02 AM PST by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

Maybe because it sounds like ‘Deep Six’..............


16 posted on 01/27/2025 8:28:43 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: PIF
So your data goes directly to the PLA for their fun and enjoyment to include your passwords, bank accounts, credit cards, email lists and names etc.

How would they get that information without hacking your computer?

17 posted on 01/27/2025 8:43:16 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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How would they get that information without hacking your computer?


when you sign up, you have to agree to certain permissions ( aka, Terms of Service ) - which allow them to harvest.


18 posted on 01/27/2025 8:46:54 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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They can’t access any data on your computer unless you explicitly allow them access to it. The only data they might harvest is what you choose to share directly on their AI platform. That’s it!


19 posted on 01/27/2025 9:16:29 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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so tiktok was a non issue as the chinese have red note and this deepseek as backup.

why dumb teens flocks to those sites?


20 posted on 01/27/2025 9:18:23 AM PST by VAFreedom (Wuhan Pneumonia-Made by CCP, Copyright Xi Jingping)
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