Posted on 05/31/2023 10:38:00 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
I'm just frustrated. I have 2 older daughters in their 30's. I can't talk to them about any current topic. Everything I say triggers them. Today I got in a fuss defending the gallantry of Southern soldiers. Then I got in a fuss about being a culturist because I believe a substantial portion of the Black underclass in 5 times more likely to commit crimes and murder than other groups. 30 people a week shot in Chicago or New Orleans is OK but DeSantis is a racist. I just said I never see race in a competent individual. I just want to communicate with my offspring. Why are my values always wrong?
Check out the film "The Lives Of Others" and you'll get an idea of what's happening at home.
And then check out "Rules For Radicals".
If you have not instilled values in them by now it’s not going to happen. Get over it.
You need to get their attention
Start with a copy of your Will without them in it!!!!
Home schooling is not a luxury anymore.
For parents it is a necessity like breathing and eating.
You need to expose the weakness in their arguments right off the bat. If they accuse you of being a fascist respond with “let’s test your knowledge of fascism. Can you name the three principle fascist regimes of the 20th century?” They almost certainly will not but if you are prepared you will (Italy, Germany and Spain). Study and memorize details about the rise of fascism in Europe.
Racism? “Why do you reject the teachings and solutions of Martin Luther King? Why do you ignore the warnings of Malcolm X?” Memorize the famous line from his “I have a dream speech”, Integration as a solution to Segregation, and become familiar with Malcolm X’s quote about white liberals.
Progressives arguments are based upon ignorance and tautological definitions. Become familiar with their arguments and your first response should put them on the defensive with defending an aspect of their argument that cannot be defended.
Stop attempting to talk about anything vaguely political with them.
You’re far too late in influencing their views to make a difference anyway. Sorry.
Just love them and support them in their lives.
“I only pray they will come back to the Lord before it’s too late.”
That is the most important thing! And praying and showing them the Lord’s love is about all you can do. If that means steering clear of politics and other sensitive subjects, so be it.
With some of our liberal friends we have had to say that we will not engage in certain topics with them. Some keep bringing stuff up and we give them a brief response and tell them “But I really don’t want to discuss it.” Some we have stopped hanging out with because they won’t leave it alone. Difficult to do with family.
“I’ve learned that the kids don’t want to discuss politics or get the opinions of their parents. Your job in that department ended when they were in their late teens.”
Like you, we’ve come to mutual accommodations so we can enjoy each others company. I don’t criticize and they don’t either. We know what topics are off limits. That is the best way to enjoy your adult kids and not get into fights that can turn ugly and lead to estrangement.”
One of our DIL’s is an old fashioned liberal. She has created two careers and owns rental property.
“If my wife or I have surgery or some health issues, she is here to help and yet never be in the way. Our youngest son/her husband is a true middle of the road re neither major party. So we don’t discuss politics.
Our other DIL is a Wharton grad and has gone from obnoxious east coast liberal to a good conservative. She has 2 self owned employment careers. I would not be surprised if she and our older son pull the plug on California and move to Floriduh. She despises our California politicians and her liberal neighbors.
We have good friends in Floriduh and a cousin, who was/is like an uncle to our sons. This son could run his own business from his home. They had thought about Idaho, but it may become another Oregone/Washington.
They could live in Floriduh, and he could run his consulting business with his son living in N. California as the local guy. She can do her business thing anywhere.
I don’t think that works. Once kids are involved, they will likely withhold access, especially until the “thinking” has improved. I’ve seen plenty of former conservative friends turn into simpering, whiny grandfathers.
UGA and went to work in Seattle and Atlanta
Well, Seattle and Atlanta are liberal hotspots, so they’re conforming to their local areas.
My wife and I raised our daughters going to church on Wednesday’s and Sunday’s, church camp, etc. This is a very conservative Protestant church (www.life4square.com).
One of our daughters claims to be bisexual, one has a supposedly ‘trans-sexual’ boyfriend (he’s a man, but says he wants to be a woman), and the youngest claims to be asexual (she’s 18, and just graduated high school).
My wife was a teacher (she died in 2019) in the public schools, and our local school district still does the pledge of allegiance and meet you at the pole prayer, etc.
I just tell them that I was raised differently, and that my opinions are just that, my opinions. But, as long as they live under my roof, they will respect my opinions. They don’t have to agree, but they better not disparage me, or them.
Funny enough, the middle daughter lived on her own for 6 months or so, and sure enough, came back a lot more conservative and respectful.
love them for the idiots they are.
convert the grandkids.
the culture has a lot to do with how your daughters think
So did the schools
And the screens
Whatever happened it is over with now.
You will want to maintain a respectful silence on certain topics and request the same from them
No use talking to the blind and expecting them to see.
You didn’t do anything wrong, you expected the culture to have less of an impact than it did.
Like 90% of the conservative parents in this world.
take care
By example. Period
“They had thought about Idaho, but it may become another Oregon / Washington.”
My grandparents spent their entire lives in Idaho. Mom was raised here. My uncle settled in Twin Falls after WW II and raised his family there. Dad, my uncle, my aunt and my Mom all went to the U of I. So I have deep roots in ID and I’ve been visiting since the early 50s when I was a tyke. So it was a natural place to choose for retirement and getting out of CA.
We were able to keep our CA place and I like going back in winter. But it’s great to get back to ID.
The insane left has designs on every single state. They want to replicate their Colorado and New Mexico successes in all states, especially TX these days. There is far less of the rabid, insane lib penetration in ID, but all bets are off around Boise, Twin Falls, Moscow and Blaine County (Hailey, Ketchum and Sun Valley). But so far, so good. Here in the northern part of the state, the libs have even less traction, but we are flooded with out-of-staters. Fortunately, most of them are fleeing failing states and don’t seem interested in recreating what they left.
As many others have said, you sent them to public schools. Like so many of us, you lost your offspring to the Propaganda Ministry’s outreach program.
I guess this will be my last addendum to my predicament. I can’t communicate everything about my daughters on this forum. They both were brilliant students and make far more money than I ever did. I just want them to understand my orthodox positions. For example my daughter in Seattle says. “There was a shooting 2 blocks from my house last night but it wasn’t here” or Chop and Chaz were great places to visit or the naked bicycle race was discreet because they had body paint on. Or I go to work a different way because there are homeless at the bottom my street. My daughter in Atlanta has witnessed knifings n MARTA and police searches near her house for mass killers. They just blow these things off and continue to hate Trump. Have a great day Freepers. You are the best!
Why would you have such conversations with them anyway? With sons - sure. Daughters? No.
You wouldn't talk to them about how many horsepower Dodge is throwing into their latest V-8.
They're your daughters; treat them accordingly and forget the outright lies of Feminism about women being "boss babes" and "anything a man can do".
They'd enjoy conversations about "sugar and spice and everything nice".
You are witnessing and experiencing the end of the civilization that you have lived your life in.
Much more like this…and far worse…will be experienced.
Kids are screwy. God gave them that right. Darwin awards are generally voluntary by nature. Honor God, love those of good will.
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