Posted on 03/07/2023 3:26:56 PM PST by daniel1212
In the Northeast woodlands the most feared and hated nation was the Iroquois — especially the Mohawk and Seneca. The Algonquian speaking nations and Iroquoian speaking Huron were particular enemies of the Iroquois. In the 1640s, the Iroquois unleashed a virtual genocide on the other Nations of the region, one that was not quickly forgotten.
The Ojibwa defeated a number of the Iroquois incursions and ran the Sioux out of their forested homeland onto the plains. The Ojibwa (Chippewa and associated bands) occupied more land than any other tribe ever has from Manitoba to Indiana and took over smaller tribes on their pursuit west.
In the Southeast, the Muskogean-speaking peoples made up the largest linguistic group and included the Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, Cherokee, and Seminole among others. These were know as the Five Civilized Tribes, but their martial abilities should not be underestimated. The Seminole, in particular were suppressed but never defeat by US forces. Creeks were the dominant people in Georgia during the majority of its colonial era.
There is no doubt the Crows were among the fiercest on the Plains/Yellowstone regions. Excellent horsemen, horse raiders, great hunters, epic warriors and iconic Chiefs. They were also among the most wealthiest in terms of horse numbers. They fought virtually every tribe on all sides to defend their hunting grounds and homelands with little to no "alliances" unlike the Sioux. The Sioux Indians were one of the most feared Nations, but they were actually a large alliance — Dakota, Lakota, Sioux, often siding with the Cheyenne.
In the Southwest, the Comanche were particular unfriendly to other bands, but the Pima seem to have been the Nation most feared by other tribes. The Comanche were noted for being fierce warriors who fought vigorously to defend their homeland. However, they were, at one time or another, at war with virtually every other Native American group living on the Southern Plains. Many historians debate whether the Comanche deserve their ferocious reputation.
The attacks of the Apache on the Pima Villages caused the Pima to develop their own unique militia organization capable of offense and defense. This “militia” had its antecedents in Pima auxiliaries used by the Spanish garrisons from 1694. In 1857. an estimated 300 Yuma, Mohave, Apache and Yavapai warriors attacked a Pima Maricopa village in one of the largest all native inter-tribal battles in Arizona's history. The Maricopa / Pima forces, some mounted on horses, surrounded the attackers before annihilating them. The attackers lost 200 killed to the Pima.
https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-most-terrifying-Native-American-tribe-to-get-in-a-skirmish-with-during-the-Indian-Wars-I-have-an-Apache-friend-who-swears-it-was-the-Pima-Tribe-who-I-really-know-nothing-about-I-always-thought-it-was/answer/James-Martin-2066
Were all Stone Age civilizations as violent as this article portrays Native Americans to be?
They make it sound as if all the tribes knew each other. For example, Navajo had names for five tribes. A Seneca was in the same group as an Italian to them.
“The Seminole, in particular were suppressed but never defeat by US forces.”
And still live in their original land.
ha anyone familiar with the theory central american Mayans went to Georgia....
Didn’t they do the Fort Dearborn Massacre? Too bad Chicago recovered but they get A for effort.
Guardians...they abandoned their balls.
I’ve read those accounts too.
“What Native American tribe was hated most by other Native American tribes?”
I was told that “Navajo” is the name given to the tribe by their enemies. Supposedly it means something like, “The guys who sneak up and stab you in the back”
Lots of love to go around for the peaceful, happy savages, who didn’t learn bout evil until the white folks showed up.
I’ve no idea....
Look at the Aztecs and Incas
They were warriors. They went to war with immigrants. They lost. Get over it.
BTW: Best thing that ever happened to them, after casinos? Losing the wars.
To hear it told, it was the Cleveland Indians logo.
The Ojibwa are all over northern mn/wi too
My Moms side goes back to Germany in the 1600’s. A relative on the run ended up in the North Carolina territory and married a Cherokee.
My wife’s family on her moms side had a relative massacred At Little Bighorn in the 7th cavalry. His brother married a Cherokee and my wife came from that line. Her grandfather was in the last active US cavalry unit in the 1930’s time frame.
My youngest son’s girlfriend is half Choctaw.
The Sioux Uprising of 1862 in Minnesota pretty much deracinated the southern third of the state.
Naw. Larry Storch kept them in line.
Read
Rosseau’s “Noble Savage” myth punctured and punctured well!
Only believed today by American sociology professors & graduate.
Same reason they love Che Guevara.
"If you go back through Comanche history, you see that they were the ones who stopped the Spanish from coming North," he explains. "Why did the French stop coming west from Louisiana? Comanches. ... Here was why the West Coast and the East Coast settled before the middle of the country. Here was why there was basically a 40-year wait before you could develop the state of Texas or before other Plain states could be developed."
"There was even an attempt at one point to deny that Indians were warlike. Comanches were incredibly warlike. They swept everyone off the Southern plains. They nearly exterminated the Apaches.
"The Comanches were kind of like the Spartans. Because of their incredible military mastery, which derived from the horse — they were the prototype horse tribe, the tribe that could do more with the horse than any other tribe could. Because of that, it was a military community and their old way of life was supplanted by the new way of life which mainly had to do with war. So they pretty much hunted buffalo ... and started war. And they were amazingly stripped down in that they didn't have social organization or religious organization. They didn't weave baskets. They had a very stripped-down culture. So within that culture the boys learned to hunt and ride at a very early age and they would become a warrior in their midteens."
Not just "stone age".
A fact of life is that if your nation's population grows, then you need more land. If the neighboring land is occupied by other groups, then you need to conquer them. If your population does not grow, then eventually you will be conquered.
These days, what happens instead is you have your fighting-age men immigrate to other lands, and eventually take over.
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