Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State

10/17/2022 | vanity

[ransomnote]

ransomnote: I picked up many memes from other FReepers to use in today's thread and often lost track of whom to thank! For example, I know I picked up memes from cranked...

I've been baffled by the aggressive cheer-leading for the puppet Zelensky. Support for Zelensky and the Ukraine is support for Joe Biden/Hunter Biden even though they've already stolen so much money via the Deep State money laundering/fraud operations headquartered there. It's not just the Bidens; the Ukraine is the Deep State's back office. Why pour our money and weapons into a hole in the ground serving the Deep State?

I'm not the only one who knows our CIA (e.g., Victoria Nuland), along with other globalists, helped overthrow the Ukraine with their staged 'Color Revolution' (from 2014 - 2015) and that the region is routinely utilized by powerful Deep State interests to launder billions of dollars to fund their plans for world-wide dominion. The globalists don't care which of the Ukrainian citizens are used as canon fodder or, really, what portion of the land is flattened because ultimately, it's not their country, not their funds, not their own friends and family dying in the crossfire while the monsters 'play the game'.

The MSM tries to make the public to forget truth about the Ukraine, "...the most CORRUPT nation in Europe" and its "neo-Nazi problem".

There are some agitators losing sleep at night because I refuse to believe that the Commander in Chief of the Ukrainian Military is wearing bracelet adorned with a 'Scandanavian rope motif' instead of the obvious Swastika.

When I wouldn't buy their design assertions, the 'narrative' became that it's already been 'debunked,' the same way everything Trump ever said or did in real life has supposedly been 'debunked' by the MSM. Like that.

Zelensky's handlers direct him to point to bleeding and shell-shocked citizens and ask us to help them survive and suddenly many on FR choose to forget that the globalists own Zelensky and the Ukrainian government; the citizens are being used as props and will be ignored by design. All support given to the Ukraine will flow directly to Biden and his handlers and other globalists who are dedicated to destroying us.

Trump's treasonous tormentors in the MSM are now the favorite news sources for many who post feverishly to garner support for Zelensky. There are ridiculous shrieks on FR that any hesitation to give weapons/funds to the globalists running the Ukraine can only come from "Putinistas".

[H/T Travis McGee]

When Zelensky called for pro-active strikes against Russia, those on FR who said that might be a truly stupid/evil idea were ridiculed as Russian sympathizers. There's a rabid expectation on display; we have to conform, we have to support everything Zelensky's globalist handlers want or we're evil.

Ukraine Frantically Tries to Walk Back Zelensky Call for ‘Preemptive Strikes’ on Russia
	10/07/2022 7:55:14 AM PDT · by ChicagoConservative27 · 125 replies Breitbart ^ | 10/07/2022 | Frances Martel The presidential press office of Ukraine accused global media outlets of “nuclear hysteria” on Thursday for sharing remarks made by President Volodymyr Zelensky in which he asked the world for “preemptive strikes” on Russia to avoid nuclear war.

For those who really have forgotten that the Ukraine is the corrupt playground of people like the Bidens, the content below may be helpful. For example, you may want to watch the video clip of Joe Biden (metaphorically) exposing himself at the Council on Foreign Relations:

Joe Biden Admits Quid Pro Quo with Ukraine (video 1 min 16 seconds)

Why support the Ukraine when the Biden's rob from it freely? Shouldn't the Bidens get real jobs for a change?

When Biden recently provided another 12 Billion (or whatever the amount was) in aid to the Ukraine, I don't believe any of it ever left the US. The Ukraine was laundering billions for people like the Bidens, there's no way the pigs at the trough are going to stop gorging themselves on the puppet regime they built to supply them. Money and weapons dedicated to the Ukraine does not help the innocent citizens Zelensky is using as cannon fodder and photo ops. People like Biden just want to 'relieve' the United States of weapons and money in the time-honored Deep State tradition.

Zelensky is, by now, known for his green-screen (faked) street footage where the porn star continues to act the part of 'hero' for his fans.

There are some who have posted that he and his prime minister are Jewish and therefore none of what is posted about their corruption and the Nazi Azov troops can ever be true. I patiently explain that some people, for example porn stars, will sell themselves for money, power and promises of special treatment.

Tucker Carlson had a natural response to Zelensky's most recent whines for more money:

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1580717198703611904?cxt=HHwWgMCi8dn66u8rAAAA

     

"As our economy degrades and our border is gone, that guy's lecturing us with some Christmas list, like, "I want a bicycle too, you better send it, quick!" Really? Up yours, Buddy!"

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1580721868688224256

There's no shortage of proof that the Ukraine is a Deep State storefront that doesn't 'need' let alone 'deserve' our support.

In December 28, 2020, Ukrainian investigators put forth a video detailing evidence gathered for just a portion of the massive money laundering/fraud taking place there, courtesy of Deep Staters like Joe Biden and other US officials. The video is 1 hour 10 minutes in length. The transcript to the video, along with the link are provided below.

NOTE: FReeper bagster first called my attention to this video content in a post in which he thanked Tiger Claws, Fred Nerks, and HepticSceptic for bringing this information to our attention and pushing to keep it from being dismissed.

[H/T Fred Nerks for originally posting the following video link to FR]

https://rumble.com/vc8dqx-breaking-news-joe-biden-ukraine-bombshell.html

If you only have 30 seconds to investigate the video's content, have a look at the diagram below which shows how Joe and Hunter Biden laundered millions of dollars in the Ukraine (Burisma).

 
To go beyond the diagram, you're invited to read through transcripts or watch the video.

The investigator, Andree Derkach introduced the video, stating it covers corruption (Joe Biden, US State Department, Mnuchin etc.) including, but not limited to, the following points:

1. Ukrainian money that has disappeared to the Biden family.

2. Audio recordings (phone calls) between the 5th Prime Minister Poroshenko and Joe Biden.

3. Corruption related to the procurement of oil and gas that has resulted in a 30% higher utility tariff bills for all Ukrainians.

4. Embezzlement of 100s of thousands of dollars by the U.S. State Dept...

I'll add here that there's an example of swapping out legitimate prosecutors for deep state replacements by having all take a fake placement test. This is worth noting because I recently saw an American state enacting a new test that made me wonder if this tactic is in play stateside, again.

The Ukrainian investigators state they have all the documents to back up everything they say. They are somber as they present evidence against the Deep State that will likely get them, or their families, killed.

Even so, one investigator points to darkly humorous absurdities in Joe Biden/Poroshenko's mutual flattery - in Part I which includes documentation and the transcript of Biden's phone call with Poroshenko, the Ukrainian investigator below remarks sarcastically on their displays of 'statesmanship' and the way they Biden 'licks the Maldovian'. Here's an example:

Parts I, II and III were previously posted to FR and are linked.  I just transcribed Part IV last week and will post it below. 

Part I contains a summary of the first half of the video (e.g., Hunter's Burisma payments to 'Brandon') and insights, like Joe Biden's low opinion of sitting President Donald Trump (i.e., Biden said President Trump was a dog chasing a car, caught the car and doesn't know what to do with it.) The video is subtitled in English and subtitles for the presentation are shown at the Part I link below. Remaining parts are frame-by-frame, not summaries.

PART I

ransomnote: I want to point out in the Part I transcript, the November 16, 2016 phone call between Biden and Poroshenko, Biden says he's meeting with the Vice President (Pence) because he's the only one with foreign policy experience. I wonder what Biden and Pence talked about? And why didn't Pence ever mention his own or Biden's calls with Poroshenko when the Dems were trying to impeach President Trump for an on-the-record phone call with the Deep State installed Ukrainian head of state, Zelensky? Why didn't Pence say Trump's call was not unusual, and that he and Biden were on the phone with Poroshenko and didn't provide any sort of transcript, but that all was well?

PART II

PART III

PART IV

Transcript begins:

 

 

 

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NOTE: FReeper bagster first called my attention to this video content in a post in which he thanked Tiger Claws, Fred Nerks, and HepticSceptic for bringing this information to our attention and pushing to keep it from being dismissed.

[H/T Fred Nerks for originally posting the following video link to FR]

https://rumble.com/vc8dqx-breaking-news-joe-biden-ukraine-bombshell.html

 
To go beyond the diagram, you're invited to read through transcripts or watch the video.

The investigator, Andree Derkach introduced the video, stating it covers corruption (Joe Biden, US State Department, Mnuchin etc.) including, but not limited to, the following points:

1. Ukrainian money that has disappeared to the Biden family.

2. Audio recordings (phone calls) between the 5th Prime Minister Poroshenko and Joe Biden.

3. Corruption related to the procurement of oil and gas that has resulted in a 30% higher utility tariff bills for all Ukrainians.

4. Embezzlement of 100s of thousands of dollars by the U.S. State Dept...

I'll add here that there's an example of swapping out legitimate prosecutors for deep state replacements by having all take a fake placement test. This is worth noting because I recently saw an American state enacting a new test that made me wonder if this tactic is in play stateside, again.

The Ukrainian investigators state they have all the documents to back up everything they say. They are somber as they present evidence against the Deep State that will likely get them, or their families, killed.

Even so, one investigator points to darkly humorous absurdities in Joe Biden/Poroshenko's mutual flattery - in Part I which includes documentation and the transcript of Biden's phone call with Poroshenko, the Ukrainian investigator below remarks sarcastically on their displays of 'statesmanship' and the way they Biden 'licks the Maldovian'. Here's an example:

Parts I, II and III were previously posted to FR and are linked.  I just transcribed Part IV last week and will post it below. 

Part I contains a summary of the first half of the video (e.g., Hunter's Burisma payments to 'Brandon') and insights, like Joe Biden's low opinion of sitting President Donald Trump (i.e., Biden said President Trump was a dog chasing a car, caught the car and doesn't know what to do with it.) The video is subtitled in English and subtitles for the presentation are shown at the Part I link below. Remaining parts are frame-by-frame, not summaries.

PART I

ransomnote: I want to point out in the Part I transcript, the November 16, 2016 phone call between Biden and Poroshenko, Biden says he's meeting with the Vice President (Pence) because he's the only one with foreign policy experience. I wonder what Biden and Pence talked about? And why didn't Pence ever mention his own or Biden's calls with Poroshenko when the Dems were trying to impeach President Trump for an on-the-record phone call with the Deep State installed Ukrainian head of state, Zelensky? Why didn't Pence say Trump's call was not unusual, and that he and Biden were on the phone with Poroshenko and didn't provide any sort of transcript, but that all was well?

PART II

PART III

PART IV

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[apocalypto]

Absolutely!

[apocalypto]

Absolutely!

[ransomnote]

Donations will used to prop up the Deep State usurpers using the Ukraine as their money laundering biolab satellite headquarters and the Ukrainians will never get to live in ‘their own country’.

[ransomnote]

Again you keep trying to deflect and change the subject elsewhere. I wrote about epic levels of fraud and money laundering in the Ukraine and suggest that there’s no point in giving the Deep State and the Bidens any more money or weapons to keep their show going there because the innocent Ukrainian citizens will never receive any benefit from it.

[Nifster]

There are no good guys in this war

[ransomnote]

The globalists flat out overthrew the Ukrainian officials via a ‘color revolution’ and you want to pretend it’s just a popular uprising? Uhm...NO.

Try reading the video transcript to get an idea of the lawlessness and money laundering operation that now defines the Ukrainian region. We should not fantasize that somehow giving the Ukraine money/weapons will do anything other than feed the globalists more of the slop they thrive on there.

[Nifster]

On that we can agree

[aMorePerfectUnion]

—> There are no good guys in this war

+1

[Dat]

Biden is bad, therefore America bad. Therefore, China should invade and kill everyone.

That is your logic. You people spend so much time on US politics, that it escapes you that there are factors outside it.

What is even the point anymore? You aren’t even arguing about Ukraine and Russia. You are arguing US patriots versus Deep state. You aren’t even addressing the Ukraine war.

I am tired of your weird delusions of homosexual Zelensky coming after you. I am tired of the constant lies and bizarre equivocations. I am tired of your hypocrisy.

You people are as crazy and dishonest as the woke weirdos. You are just on the opposite side of the political perspective. If you people ever got control you would be worse than they are.

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The greenscreens do not abate, but this shot is from a hologram capture system!

[norsky]

time for a nap

[norsky]

so we going to see Mr Z appearing in the sky, hope not

[little jeremiah]

Thank you for the unvarnished truth. Passing on as much as I can.

[little jeremiah]

Thomas Paine explains why some people just cannot accept truth on this topic, even when explained clearly (the Ukraine supporters):

“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”

Thomas Paine

[McGruff]

[AnonymousConservative]

Agree, It is fine to support Ukraine, but do it with your own money. Americans are homeless, getting evicted, our own military is being told, use food stamps. We can’t be shipping billions to some worthless backwater which is only of interest to Biden, Pelosi, Romney, and Kerry, whose kids were all leaching money over there.

Ukraine needs to fight its own war and pay for it itself. Let Soros and the people making an issue out of it finance them, if it is so important.

No more forever wars.

And is it possible to appeal to the mods to bring back MaxAmericana? I loved that guy’s Hollywood stories. He was literally having scotches and cigars with James Caan, and telling us all about it. He was about as close as I’ll ever get to that world, and now we lost him to this crap.

[AnonymousConservative]

Don’t knock the Deep State problem. It is huge.

There is a whole other level to what is going on in the US. For some reason, some people never get targeted by it, and thus never see it, but it affects them none the less. I got into political activism, and from the inside, nothing works the way you think. And even some people high up in politics don’t know for some reason.

As an example, David Patterson was in his office, and the New York Governor resigned, meaning Patterson was sworn in within ten minutes, and suddenly he was the new governor. A half hour later, he was in his office as two guys just breeze past his secretary, close the door to his office, sit down, and tell him he has been under full 24/7 surveillance for 30 years, and they know about him smoking pot, they documented his affairs and his wife’s affairs, and they own him now, he will do what they say.

He went to war with it, beginning with a press conference where he immediately informed everyone it happened, and a follow on new conference with a slew of New York Legislators, all saying it happened to them too. And nothing. No FBI investigation, no State PD investigation, he ended up run out of office by Andrew Cuomo, who then took his seat. Imagine how many people had to be compromised, to prevent any investigation of who did that.

They weren’t joking about the surveillance either. From my activism, this thing is on me, and you are not capable of believing how big the Stasi-like Secret Police Force/surveillance/civilian-informant network is. I know because it has taken me a decade of seeing it everywhere I go to accept this is even possible. You can believe it or not, but I actually get hit with something like Havana Syndrome through the walls of my house. For my political speech. And I am not alone.

Once you see it, you see it everywhere. It is in the news, on Google streetview, even on this site. I put a whole page of news stories of it together, and showed where you can see the vehicular surveillance on Google streetview.

And most frightening, knowing how big it is, I will tell you, 100%, there is zero chance 9/11 was not noticed by it, and they were not all over those hijackers. They knew 9/11 was coming, and let it happen. At the least.

There is a possibility, IMO, it might even have been set up by intelligence, manipulating bin Ladin into it, and facilitating things like Atta not getting investigated over the Cessna he abandoned on the runway (which would be a huge offense), or the FBI not investigating the official report of the guy who wanted to steer the plane, but didn’t need to learn how to take off or land, or quashing James Wood’s FBI report on the dry run he witnessed. Those guys had official help along the way which will be obvious to anyone who knows how intelligence works in the US. They had the same deal Epstein had when Acosta was told he was “with intelligence” and everything went away.

I will guarantee you at some point you have talked to someone who has filled out a report on the interaction which is in your file. I will also guarantee you there is a report in there from when you were 8 or 9, with an account from a surveillance person’s kid, detailing something about your childhood.

And there is a decent chance, given how many elections are successfully rigged, most of the votes you cast never mattered.

You don’t know how bad it is, but the Deep State, the covert intelligence operation which has taken over the US in secret, is the biggest problem we face.

I hope you will at least stay open to it, even look for the surveillance I will guarantee you is operating in your neighborhood. And because you are here, it may just be targeting you too. Just unlike me, it hasn’t tried to overtly intimidate you.

[bagster]

Question, doesn’t the Deep State already control the United States and our military? If so giving American weapons to the Ukraine is not “giving them to the Deep State.” They already have them.

Now you're catching on, Ukraine bot. The US is currently under deep state control, just as the EU, NATO, and Ukraine is. This is why they are all working together to take out the last major roadblock to their complete world hegemony...Putin/Russia.

The silent war has gone hot. All you Ukraine bitch babies need to understand this and what the stakes are.

And this is exactly why I support Putin/Russia in this war. #DeathToTheDeepState

[bagster]

You are kidding right? No one is going to read that abomination of a post.

And this is exactly why you fail to learn.

#StayStupidPonyboy

[Justa]

Supporting Russia’s attack on Ukraine has nothing to do with or against the “Deep State” it has to do with Russia breaking the Minsk accord and attacking Ukraine.

The principal of using military conquest to increase borders was repudiated 80 years ago at a great cost of lives.

Do you realize you are using a national political excuse to condone military conquest by another country’s nuclear-armed military? Do you know where that goes?

Is the Deep State also in South Korea? What about Taiwan, is Taiwan also a Deep State outpost? Their adversaries are also nuclear-armed and threatening them. And the US is also treaty-bound to defend them as it is in Ukraine.

How many Might=Right invasions and conquests do you support?