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1 posted on 10/03/2022 1:16:21 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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The civil war should have ended before it started. I think too many folks in the US and Europe egged this on, gave Russia a green light, then kept Ukraine in the fight, wasting money and lives on a war that should never have started.

Biden won't go for it but they should all ask President Trump to go and negotiate a peace and settlement. End this yesterday!

2 posted on 10/03/2022 1:20:38 PM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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Ukraine President Zelenskyy fired back with his own Twitter poll.

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1577006943499350016?s=20&t=V_QowaLcXXzUWQnAlf2zYQ


3 posted on 10/03/2022 1:23:14 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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His plan makes sense. Nothing like it will be considered.


4 posted on 10/03/2022 1:24:12 PM PDT by GunRunner
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This kerfuffle over a Twitter poll was so important you had to post about it twice?


5 posted on 10/03/2022 1:26:17 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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I like that Musk isn’t afraid to express his thoughts even if it goes against the establishment narrative. Seems like in the beginning he was more pro-Ukraine, then after educating himself as to what is really going on with this war, just wants it to stop. I agree with him completely. Enough innocents have died and enough property destroyed, it’s time to bring this to an end before these idiot neocons exacerbate this to the level of a nuclear exchange.


10 posted on 10/03/2022 1:39:16 PM PDT by jimwatx
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Crimea was purchased by Russia from the OttomanTurks. It was part of russia for longer than the US is a country. A Ukrainian USSR Premier took it in violation of the USSR constitition and gave it to his own “Republic” in the 1950s. (Kruschev) We should support Russian claims to Crimea since it was purchased since that makes it difficult for Russia to saber rattle about reclaiming Alaska, which we purchased!

Earlier, in the 1920s Lenin moved parts of Russian territory into the Ukraine. After WWII Stalin seized parts of Poland and moved them to the Ukraine. Russia still holds parts of Poland, Kalingrad (Formerly a Prussian city.) Include those seized territories in Poland in the discussion for territories in the the Eastern Ukraine. (let the Ukraine AlSO give back the illegally seized parts of Poland Stalin gave to the Uks.)

Leave Odessa and nearby Black Sea coast to the Ukraine since they will need to ship their grain to the world.

Territorial grievences: how far back do you want to go?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Sweden_relations


11 posted on 10/03/2022 1:40:26 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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More neocon pap.


17 posted on 10/03/2022 1:44:14 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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Wars sell weapons. Endless wars sell more weapons. Unrealistic terms for ending a war helps it be endless. The tax payers buys the weapons. Defense contractors sell the weapons. Corrupt politicians partner with the defense contractors by keeping the conditions right for more war. Regular people in the war die and suffer. Regular tax payers pay the to keep the weapons going into the war. The corrupt politicians and big arms dealers laugh all the way to bank...but scream bloody murder against upstart politicians like Trump who work to end the wars.


19 posted on 10/03/2022 1:44:48 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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Formally recognizing the Crimean peninsula as Russian territory (Russia illegally annexed the area from Ukraine in 2014), ensuring a steady water supply to Crimea, Ukraine committing to remain neutral and not join NATO, and having the United Nations oversee another round of referendums to join Russia in several eastern Ukrainian regions, allowing Russia to overtake the regions if the vote passes.

Peacekeepers in Ukraine would be a good idea so Russia won't use the time to rearm and attack Ukraine again.

20 posted on 10/03/2022 1:45:03 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Elon Musk to say Ukraine is “Likely to lose” is an understatement.


23 posted on 10/03/2022 1:49:10 PM PDT by Rainwave ("Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling")
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far more amenable to Russia than the Western consensus

far more amenable to Russia than the Western war profiteers

27 posted on 10/03/2022 1:54:58 PM PDT by Pollard (Worm & GMO Free - some call us purebloods)
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Oooh. Sharp backlash. I’ll bet Musk is in tears now.

A buncha keyboard warriors who never bore arms in the defense of their own country are triggered.

They can FO.


30 posted on 10/03/2022 2:00:01 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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You’re so much more productive than Musk.
No way could he post 50 Ukraine threads a day, and post that many childish memes...


34 posted on 10/03/2022 2:11:30 PM PDT by EEGator
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Elon is right and Truth hurts. Allowing people to vote gives them freedom. Free peoples are a scary thing to the NWO who prefer Revolutions.


36 posted on 10/03/2022 2:20:56 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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The Musk proposal is as good as could possibly get, Marcus, you blithering idiot.

The alternative will be tens of thousands of more Ukrainian deaths and a shrinking Ukraine.

You and anyone that thinks otherwise are numbskulls.

But, many here know you and your ilk and don't give a damn how many Ukrainians die, just like Democrats don't give a damn how many blacks die because of their policies.

You and anyone else continuing to push this proxy war are evil personified.

40 posted on 10/03/2022 2:32:01 PM PDT by Kazan
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He exposed the Uke nazis for exactly what they are. The aggressors in this whole mess. And you expose yourself yet again as a 13 year old girl with a meme SPAM attack. LOL


42 posted on 10/03/2022 2:35:07 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Why stop foreign wars now? Our national debt is only $31,000,000,000,000.

We should keep fighting foreign wars until debt exceeds $100,000,000,000,000.

What’s a few Trillions here or there? /S


43 posted on 10/03/2022 2:36:56 PM PDT by entropy12
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If Elon’s plan would result in an end to the war I would be for it.


46 posted on 10/03/2022 2:42:11 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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“Controversial proposal?” Objective journalism is gone daddy gone.”


51 posted on 10/03/2022 2:50:31 PM PDT by 2big2fail (.)
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There is no solution that will please everyone, the best we can hope for is an agreement that both players are equally dissatisfied with.
Musk's proposal is a good one and therefore has no chance.

52 posted on 10/03/2022 2:51:05 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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