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Why early Romans used lopsided dice
https://phys.org ^ | AUGUST 5, 2022 | by Bob Yirka , Phys.org

Posted on 08/05/2022 12:01:02 PM PDT by Red Badger

Map of modern-day Netherlands showing location of Roman sites included in this study (number corresponds to number of dice measured at each location) along with three examples of dice on right. Credit: Archaeological and Anthropological Sciences (2022). DOI: 10.1007/s12520-022-01599-y A pair of researchers, one with the University of California, Davis, the other Drew University, believe they may have solved the mystery of why people living during the time of the Roman Empire used lopsided dice in their games. In their paper published in the journal Archaeological and Anthropological Sciences, Jelmer Eerkens and Alex de Voogt, describe their study of dice used during the days of the Roman Empire.

During the time of the Roman Empire, people played a game called taberna (similar to backgammon) which involved throwing dice. The dice were made out of bone, metal or clay and had symbols shown on the faces to represent numbers, as with modern dice. But they differed markedly in shape. The Roman dice were usually elongated or made into other odd shapes that made them asymmetrical.

In this new effort, the researchers studied 28 die from the period and found that 24 of them were asymmetrical. They found a pattern in the irregularity—icons representing one and six were often present on larger opposing surfaces. Prior research has shown that asymmetry in a die can impact the probability of a given side landing face up. Based on their measurements, the researchers calculated that the difference in size would change the odds of rolling a given a number, on average, from one in six to one in 2.4.

To find out if the Romans made their dice asymmetrical as a means of cheating, the researchers conducted an experiment—they asked 23 students to place marks on reproductions of the asymmetrical Roman dice. The researchers reasoned that because the students would not know the purpose of the experiment and had no incentive to cheat, they would mostly place the marks randomly. But that was not the case, the students still placed the one and six on the larger sides. When asked why, many suggested it was easier because starting on a large side meant ending on a large side where they would need to place the most pips—a finding that suggests the Romans were not trying to cheat, they were just trying to make life easier for themselves. It also suggests that they were not too concerned about which face was assigned which number because they believed that many random events, such as dice throwing were governed by the fates. But the researchers also note, that more clever people likely figured out over time that certain die throws were more likely to wind up a one or a six, and thus would choose one or the other.

More information:

Jelmer W. Eerkens et al, Why are Roman-period dice asymmetrical? An experimental and quantitative approach, Archaeological and Anthropological Sciences (2022).

DOI: 10.1007/s12520-022-01599-y


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: craps; games; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; romanempire

1 posted on 08/05/2022 12:01:02 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!.......................


2 posted on 08/05/2022 12:01:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Infantem opus novum calceamenti


3 posted on 08/05/2022 12:11:30 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. It's "whatever".)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Babies like new calamari?.....................


4 posted on 08/05/2022 12:12:46 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

“Romans were not trying to cheat, they were just trying to make life easier for themselves.”

Riiiight.


5 posted on 08/05/2022 12:18:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Red Badger

Ahhh... I see Biden/DNC dice existed back then. They’re still in use today.


6 posted on 08/05/2022 12:25:15 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
:)
7 posted on 08/05/2022 12:58:03 PM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Red Badger

Carceres et dracones.

nothing like rolling a natural XX


8 posted on 08/05/2022 1:02:32 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Red Badger

On a hard surface, they would always fall on the most stable orientations (the short sides would never come up) so maybe they were throwing them on sand.


9 posted on 08/05/2022 2:49:04 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Red Badger

It sounds like the Romans cheated at dice.


10 posted on 08/05/2022 11:21:34 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: rxh4n1

Curses. Serpent eyes.


11 posted on 08/06/2022 2:51:28 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Red Badger; 240B; 75thOVI; Adder; albertp; asgardshill; At the Window; bitt; blu; BradyLS; ...
Thanks Red Badger. This takes me back to the scene in HBO's "Rome" where Pullo was shooting dice. It also reminds me of someone in college who'd visited Rome in his teens and while touring the Coliseum found what he claimed was a pair of ancient Roman dice in a crack in the floor. Tour guides going back into ancient times have salted tour routes with just such mementoes to keep good word of mouth, so, grain of salt.
The other GGG topics added since the previous digest ping, chrono sort, very broad spectrum of topics:

12 posted on 08/06/2022 8:00:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Red Badger
What have the Romans ever done for us?!


13 posted on 08/06/2022 9:27:56 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: Red Badger

In Reno a lopsided or mercury pair of dice would get you killed. Hence the nickname, “bones.”

5.56mm


14 posted on 08/06/2022 12:09:06 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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To: M Kehoe

Mercury wieghted dice.

5.56mm


15 posted on 08/06/2022 12:10:11 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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To: M Kehoe
...The dice were made out of bone, metal or clay............
16 posted on 08/08/2022 5:32:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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