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Early human ancestors one million years older than thought
phys.org ^ | 7/2/2022 | Juliette Collen

Posted on 07/02/2022 5:23:26 PM PDT by LibWhacker

"Little Foot" one of several well-known fossils found at Sterkfontein caves in South Africa's Cradle of Humankind.

The fossils of our earliest ancestors found in South Africa are a million years older than previously thought, meaning they walked the Earth around the same time as their East African relatives like the famous "Lucy", according to new research.

The Sterkfontein caves at the Cradle of Humankind world heritage site southwest of Johannesburg have yielded more Australopithecus fossils than any other site in the world.

Among them was "Mrs Ples", the most complete skull of an Australopithecus africanus found in South Africa in 1947.

Based on previous measurements, Mrs Ples and other fossils found at a similar depth of the cave were estimated to be between 2.1 and 2.6 million years old.

But "chronologically that didn't fit," said French scientist Laurent Bruxelles, one of the authors of a study published Monday in the PNAS science journal.

"It was bizarre to see some Australopithecus lasting for such a long time," the geologist told AFP.

Around 2.2 million years ago the Homo habilis—the earliest species of the Homo genus that includes Homo sapiens—was already roaming the region.

But there were no signs of Homo habilis at the depth of the cave where Mrs Ples was found.

'Contemporaries'

Also casting doubt on Mrs Ples's age was recent research showing that the almost-complete skeleton of an Australopithecus known as "Little Foot" was 3.67 million years old.

Such a big gap in ages between Mrs Ples and Little Foot seemed unlikely given they were separated by so few sedimentary layers.

Because the fossils are too old and fragile to test, scientists analyse the sediment near where they were found.

The previous dates underestimated the age of the fossils because they measured calcite flowstone mineral deposits, which were younger than the rest of that cave section, the study said.

The Sterkfontein caves southwest of Johannesburg have yielded more Australopithecus fossils than any other site in the world.

For the latest study, the researchers used a technique called cosmogenic nuclide dating, which looked at levels of rare isotopes created when rocks containing quartz were hit by high-speed particles that arrived from outer space.

"Their radioactive decay dates when the rocks were buried in the cave when they fell in the entrance together with the fossils," said the study's lead author, Darryl Granger of Purdue University in the US.

The researchers found that Mrs Ples and other fossils near her were between 3.4 and 3.7 million years old.

This means that members of Australopithecus africanus like Mrs Ples were "contemporaries" of East Africa's Australopithecus afarensis, including 3.2-million-year-old Lucy who was found in Ethiopia, said Dominic Stratford, director of research at the caves and one of study's authors.

Our family tree 'more like a bush'

It could also possibly alter our understanding of our ancestral history.

The South African Australopithecus had previously been considered "too young" to be the ancestor of the Homo genus, Stratford said. That meant that Lucy's home of East Africa was thought to be the more likely place where the Homo genus evolved.

But the new research shows that the South African Australopithecus had almost a million years to evolve into our Homo ancestor.

Or they could have worked on it together.

"Over a timeframe of millions of years, at only 4,000 kilometres (2,500 miles) away, these species had plenty of time to travel, to breed with each other... so we can largely imagine a common evolution across Africa," Bruxelles said.

The research showed that the history of hominids was "more complex than linear evolution", he added.

Our family tree is in fact "more like a bush, to use the words of our late friend Yves Coppens," Bruxelles said, referring to the French palaeontologist credited with co-discovering Lucy. Coppens died last week.

"He had long understood the pan-African nature of evolution," Bruxelles said.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: africa; ancientautopsies; australopithecus; caves; fakescience; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; fossils; godsgravesglyphs; paleontology; youngearthdelusion; youngearthdelusions
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That is the start of the Quaternary ice age. I’m hopping to find humans earlier when it was much warmer


21 posted on 07/02/2022 6:21:50 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: LibWhacker

22 posted on 07/02/2022 6:22:47 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: LibWhacker
Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle nephew!
23 posted on 07/02/2022 6:25:14 PM PDT by Ken H (Trump /DeSantis)
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To: aimhigh
Sometimes we get more then one.

white dwarf WD 0810-353 will enter the Oort Cloud in 29,000 years
In other words we will have to stars in our solar system. The last time that happened was 70,000 years ago was Scholz star
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2206.14443.pdf
24 posted on 07/02/2022 6:25:48 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: ganeemead

Why should I talk to an imbecile who doesn’t even know humans are hominids??? lololololol...sheesh!


25 posted on 07/02/2022 6:36:02 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Yawn...


26 posted on 07/02/2022 6:45:03 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Ha.
Missed that in history class.


27 posted on 07/02/2022 6:45:15 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: LibWhacker

It’s a monkey. Then the highly advanced extraterrestrials dropped by for a little DNA experimentation.


28 posted on 07/02/2022 6:53:06 PM PDT by dainbramaged (What did the cook say when the rat fell into the chowder? "Better luck next time.")
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To: dainbramaged

If Exodus 19 vs 16-19 isn’t describing the descent of a spacecraft, than I ‘m a monkey’s uncle


29 posted on 07/02/2022 7:10:33 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: ganeemead

“ Hominids including the Neanderthal were advanced bipedal apes.”

Get your stinkin paws off me you damn dirty ape 🤪


30 posted on 07/02/2022 7:35:52 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: LibWhacker

Again, just “man” the animal of a previous creation vs “man” made in the image of God as we know him.


31 posted on 07/02/2022 7:53:11 PM PDT by Democrat = party of treason
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To: LibWhacker

Cue Raquel Welch.


32 posted on 07/02/2022 8:10:02 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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To: LibWhacker

And cannot properly spell “ganymede”.

CC


33 posted on 07/02/2022 9:08:43 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: A strike

Nope. Fake news. Earth is about 6,000 yrs old. Biblical history.


34 posted on 07/02/2022 10:14:24 PM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: LibWhacker

Some are still in Congress.


35 posted on 07/02/2022 11:34:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: LibWhacker

36 posted on 07/03/2022 6:56:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: LibWhacker
Could be the return of Ted Holden, who's been kicked out under a variety of different nicks over the years.

37 posted on 07/03/2022 7:05:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ganeemead; LibWhacker
ganeemead: "Hominids including the Neanderthal were advanced bipedal apes."

Scientifically speaking, we are advanced bidedal apes.
Measuring DNA alleles, we are somewhere in the 99% range the same as Neanderthals, with evidence of interbreeding, which is why some scientists consider us the same species.
Scientifically, we are homo sapiens sapiens, they were homo sapiens Neanderthals, according to the most recent thinking.

38 posted on 07/03/2022 7:35:09 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: LibWhacker

WTF ever.

Same people that tell us global warming was going to cause impending doom in 10 short years (back in the 90s), that the vaccines are perfectly safe, etc.


39 posted on 07/03/2022 9:54:59 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: Tudorfly

No where in the Bible does it claim earth to be only 6000 years old

Genesis says in the beginning…..that is longer ago than you think


40 posted on 07/03/2022 11:11:14 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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