[freeandfreezing]

YOU show the link, showing that poster is wrong.

Sorry Jane, but you are late to the party. I have posted links to the OSCE reports, the actual numbers of combatants and non-combatants killed on both sides, and rebutted that particular Russian propaganda talking point multiple times. So have some other FReepers.

And yet posters keep repeating that particular talking point.

Some of the people asking for links have actually seen the previous discussion. So here are some links on the topic so you can catch up:

The beginning

The Ukranians killing 14,000 people debunked

More details on the topic, who really got killed and by whom in the Donbass fighting

More debunking of the Russian talking point

And more

Here's that talking point again

A link to the OSCE reports for the same people asking for links tonight

Here comes the talking point again

And again

And again

Again the talking point

And again

A variation of the talking point - supposedly the Ukrainians always fired first

And here's another example of the talking point

And another

Still debunking the talking point

Here's the talking point again

And again here

And yet again here

Another variation of the talking point

And again

The claim that the Ukrainians killed 14,000 people in the Donbass war that started in 2014 is simply false, and is put out as a Russian propaganda talking point.

Anyone who did the simplest of research, even just reading the Wikipedia entry for links to sources would know that the deaths were mostly among soldiers in the Ukrainian, Russian, and DPR/LNR armed forces.

But the claim that the Ukraine shelled the Donbass and killed 14,000 people keeps getting posted here on FR, and defended by the people who post it. Even when they are shown they are wrong they persist.

Some of them seem to forget their talking point has been debunked many times already.

[McGruff]

But the claim that the Ukraine shelled the Donbass and killed 14,000 people...

Ok, what is the number according to your sources and does it make a difference how many innocents were killed by the Ukrainian government? Isn't even 1 a war crime?

[robowombat]

Nevertheless, none of it should be of any interest to Americans. This is Globo-Homo’s shooting war against another national unit that will not become a queertopian province of the Borderless World. As the turd world pours over southern non-border, the economic productive basis of the nation is shipped overseas and opiodope literally kills us why should any American without family ties care what happens in Ukeland? And you won’t have much of our already shredded freedom freezing or otherwise if Globo-Homo can complete attaching the shackle s of the globonian Borderless world to the US. But Americans will be privileged to have the opportunity to be mercenaries to preside over the empire of non=free trade and queerdom of the gobalist masterclass.

[kiryandil]

The neoconned weighs in.

Is the neoKoolaid that good, freeandfreezing?

[Jane Long]

Awwww…you put a lot of time into that post…but, it’s the same Wikipoo, posted over and over.

You get an E, for effort, though.

[kiryandil]

Anyone who did the simplest of research, even just reading the Wikipedia entry for links to sources

It is well-known that ANYTHING political on Wikipedia is out-and-out lies, shaped and molded by the Lefty Official Narrative.

I guess you "forgot" to mention that little tidbit to the audience...