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A Weird Paper Tests The Limits of Science by Claiming Octopuses Came From Space
https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 28 DECEMBER 2021 | MIKE MCRAE

Posted on 12/29/2021 5:57:37 AM PST by Red Badger

A summary of decades of research on a rather 'out-there' idea involving viruses from space raises questions on just how scientific we can be when it comes to speculating on the history of life on Earth.

It's easy to throw around words like crackpot, rogue, and maverick in describing the scientific fringe, but then papers like this one, from 2018, come along and leave us blinking owlishly, unsure of where to even begin.

A total of 33 names were listed as authors on this review, which was published by Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology back in August 2018. The journal is peer reviewed and fairly well cited. So it's not exactly small, or a niche pay-for-publish source.

Science writer Stephen Fleischfresser goes into depth on the background of two of the better known scientists involved: Edward Steele and Chandra Wickramasinghe. It's well worth a read.

For a tl;dr version, Steele is an immunologist who has a fringe reputation for his views on evolution that relies on acquiring gene changes determined by the influence of the environment rather than random mutations, in what he calls meta-Lamarckism.

Wickramasinghe, on the other hand, has had a somewhat less controversial career, recognized for empirically confirming Sir Fred Hoyle's hypothesis describing the production of complex carbon molecules on interstellar dust.

Wickramasinghe and Hoyle also happened to be responsible for another space biology thesis. Only this one is based on more than just the origins of organic chemistry.

The Hoyle Wickramasinghe (H-W) thesis of Cometary (Cosmic) Biology makes the rather simple claim that the direction of evolution has been significantly affected by biochemistry that didn't start on our planet.

In Wickramasinghe's own words, "Comets are the carriers and distributors of life in the cosmos, and life on Earth arose and developed as a result of cometary inputs."

Those inputs, Wickramasinghe argued, aren't limited to a generous sprinkling of space-baked amino acids, either.

Rather, they include viruses that insert themselves into organisms, pushing their evolution into whole new directions.

The report, titled "Cause of Cambrian Explosion – Terrestrial or Cosmic?", pulls on existing research to conclude that a rain of extra-terrestrial retroviruses played a key role in the diversification of life in our oceans roughly half a billion years ago.

"Thus retroviruses and other viruses hypothesized to be liberated in cometary debris trails both can potentially add new DNA sequences to terrestrial genomes and drive further mutagenic change within somatic and germline genomes," the authors wrote.

Let that sink in for a moment. And take a deep breath before continuing, because that was the tame part.

It was during this period that a group of mollusks known as cephalopods first stretched out their tentacles from beneath their shells, branching into a stunning array of sizes and shapes in what seemed like a remarkably short time frame.

The genetics of these organisms, which today include octopuses, squid, and cuttlefish, are as weird as the animals themselves, due in part to their ability to edit their DNA on the fly.

The authors of the paper make the rather audacious claim that these genetic oddities might be a sign of life from space.

Not of space viruses this time, but the arrival of whole genomes frozen in stasis before thawing out in our tepid waters.

"Thus the possibility that cryopreserved squid and/or octopus eggs, arrived in icy bolides several hundred million years ago should not be discounted," they wrote.

In his review of the paper, medical researcher Keith Baverstock from the University of Eastern Finland conceded that there's a lot of evidence that plausibly aligns with the H-W thesis, such as the curious timeline of the appearance of viruses.

But that's just not how science advances.

"I believe this paper justifies skepticism of the scientific value of stand alone theories of the origin of life," Baverstock argued at the time.

"The weight of plausible, but non-definitive, evidence, great though that might be, is not the point."

While the idea is as novel and exciting as it is provocative, nothing in the summary helps us better understand the history of life on Earth any better than existing conjectures, adding little of value to our model of evolution.

Still, with solid caveats in place, maybe science can cope with a generous dose of crazy every now and then.

Journal editor Denis Noble concedes that 'further research is needed', which is a bit of an understatement.

But given the developments regarding space-based organic chemistry in recent years, there's room for discussion.

"As space chemistry and biology grows in importance it is appropriate for a journal devoted to the interface between physics and biology to encourage the debates," said Noble.

"In the future, the ideas will surely become testable."

Just in case those tests confirm speculations, we recommend being well prepared for the return of our cephalopod overlords. Who knows when they'll want those eggs back?

This research was published in Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology.

A version of this article was first published in August 2018.


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: abiogenesis; astronomy; cephalopods; crevo; cryptobiology; edwardsteele; fredhoyle; fringe; godsgravesglyphs; ohsomysteriouso; panspermia; science; scientism; sirfredhoyle; wickramasinghe; xplanets
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To: zzeeman

Good on ya!!


3,681 posted on 04/14/2022 7:55:12 AM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Those who judge will never understand, and those who understand will never judge. ~~ FB)
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To: Allegra

Excellent work!! Woohoo!


3,682 posted on 04/14/2022 7:56:10 AM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Those who judge will never understand, and those who understand will never judge. ~~ FB)
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To: Tax-chick

I do that a lot...let someone in who has just a few things, while I have a cart full. I figure they’re in a hurry to get to work or some other thing.

Kroger was busy but they’re doing a remodel of the deli section, so it’s like running the gauntlet.


3,683 posted on 04/14/2022 7:58:31 AM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Those who judge will never understand, and those who understand will never judge. ~~ FB)
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To: Tax-chick

I had a little bit of trouble at the bank self-identifying as Elon Musk. I’m still talking to my lawyer about it.


3,684 posted on 04/14/2022 8:00:49 AM PDT by ArGee (Well, this year's a bust. I guess I need to start hoping for a good 2023.)
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To: Tax-chick; Monkey Face; zzeeman; ArGee
I guess he could tell that I identify as Queer, so he wanted to make up for my historical suffering and marginalization.

LOL - I always let someone in front of me in line if they have one or two items and I have a full basket.

Because I identify as a platypus, it sometimes confuses people.

3,685 posted on 04/14/2022 8:10:55 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra

Because I identify as a platypus, it sometimes confuses people....

Understandable...they fear miss-identifying you...duck, beaver, otter, I mean really confusing that.

Tier One action in your part...have them mumbling through the entire alphabet searching, searching, screaming!
;>)


3,686 posted on 04/14/2022 8:16:36 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: ArGee; Tax-chick; Allegra

I’m self-identifying as someone much younger. My body is being disagreeable about it.


3,687 posted on 04/14/2022 8:47:17 AM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Those who judge will never understand, and those who understand will never judge. ~~ FB)
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To: Allegra; Monkey Face; ArGee

It’s possible he thought I was an older woman with a child, and then I would have been racially oppressing him if I went first. It would be like Jim Crow on steroids!


3,688 posted on 04/14/2022 8:49:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Monkey Face

My clothes don’t accept my identity as a size 4.


3,689 posted on 04/14/2022 8:50:34 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Tax-chick

Nor mine as my identity as a size 10.

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*tagline*


3,690 posted on 04/14/2022 9:00:27 AM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tax-chick

Some folks just don’t know what’s good for them!

I need to sort pills. I don’t want to, but there it is. I’d like to give that up, permanently, but I don’t want to be really, really sick again, so I’ll sort them like a good girl and keep taking them like I know I should in order to function.


3,691 posted on 04/14/2022 9:03:32 AM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Allegra; Monkey Face; ArGee; Tax-chick; Covenantor; zzeeman; null and void

So my lawyer says I have a case and we can probably win that I can get the same loan terms as Elon Musk based on my self-identifying as Elon Musk.

Unfortunately, he told me in no uncertain terms that payback would be a ...

Oh, I probably shouldn’t quote him on the UT.

... difficult if I don’t actually have Elon’s money.


3,692 posted on 04/14/2022 9:16:00 AM PDT by ArGee (Well, this year's a bust. I guess I need to start hoping for a good 2023.)
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To: ArGee

Well, it was worth a try. Maybe if you looked more African?


3,693 posted on 04/14/2022 9:17:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Tax-chick; ArGee; null and void; Allegra; zzeeman; HKMk23

My paternal grandparents came from South Africa so can I pass as African, if I identify as such? Could I get $900 more a month from CA?


3,694 posted on 04/14/2022 10:45:11 AM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Monkey Face

No thunderstorms yet. We’ll be leaving for the stable shortly with fingers crossed.


3,695 posted on 04/14/2022 11:14:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Tax-chick

Good luck! I hope the storms stay away long enough for Kathleen’s lesson!


3,696 posted on 04/14/2022 11:22:43 AM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Monkey Face

Probably.

And if you moved to Palm Springs and claims to be a trans African you’d get another $900/mo.

So, right there, $1,800/mo in do nothing income.

The Feds would dock the check they send you, tho.


3,697 posted on 04/14/2022 12:47:44 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: HKMk23

They do that with unsurprising regularity anyway, so no surprise there! LOL!


3,698 posted on 04/14/2022 12:59:34 PM PDT by Monkey Face ( ~~ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Monkey Face

Every April, in my experience.


3,699 posted on 04/14/2022 1:10:50 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: Tax-chick

Maybe if I hadn’t driven up in a gas guzzler.


3,700 posted on 04/14/2022 1:25:06 PM PDT by ArGee (Well, this year's a bust. I guess I need to start hoping for a good 2023.)
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