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Could a Human Enter a Black Hole to Study It – And Survive the Event Horizon?
https://scitechdaily.com ^ | FEBRUARY 6, 2021 | By GRINNELL COLLEGE

Posted on 04/06/2021 9:46:53 AM PDT by Red Badger

A person falling into a black hole and being stretched while approaching the black hole’s horizon. Credit: Leo Rodriguez and Shanshan Rodriguez, CC BY-ND ===================================================================

To solve the mysteries of black holes, a human should just venture into one. However, there is a rather complicated catch: A human can do this only if the respective black hole is supermassive and isolated, and if the person entering the black hole does not expect to report the findings to anyone in the entire universe.

We are both physicists who study black holes, albeit from a very safe distance. Black holes are among the most abundant astrophysical objects in our universe. These intriguing objects appear to be an essential ingredient in the evolution of the universe, from the Big Bang till present day. They probably had an impact on the formation of human life in our own galaxy.

Two types of black holes The universe is littered with a vast zoo of different types of black holes.

They can vary by size and be electrically charged, the same way electrons or protons are in atoms. Some black holes actually spin. There are two types of black holes that are relevant to our discussion. The first does not rotate, is electrically neutral – that is, not positively or negatively charged – and has the mass of our Sun. The second type is a supermassive black hole, with a mass of millions to even billions times greater than that of our Sun.

Besides the mass difference between these two types of black holes, what also differentiates them is the distance from their center to their “event horizon” – a measure called radial distance. The event horizon of a black hole is the point of no return. Anything that passes this point will be swallowed by the black hole and forever vanish from our known universe.

The distance from a black hole’s center of mass to where gravity’s pull is too strong to overcome is called the event horizon. Credit: Leo and Shanshan, CC BY-ND

At the event horizon, the black hole’s gravity is so powerful that no amount of mechanical force can overcome or counteract it. Even light, the fastest-moving thing in our universe, cannot escape – hence the term “black hole.”

The radial size of the event horizon depends on the mass of the respective black hole and is key for a person to survive falling into one. For a black hole with a mass of our Sun (one solar mass), the event horizon will have a radius of just under 2 miles.

The supermassive black hole at the center of our Milky Way galaxy, by contrast, has a mass of roughly 4 million solar masses, and it has an event horizon with a radius of 7.3 million miles or 17 solar radii.

Thus, someone falling into a stellar-size black hole will get much, much closer to the black hole’s center before passing the event horizon, as opposed to falling into a supermassive black hole.

This implies, due to the closeness of the black hole’s center, that the black hole’s pull on a person will differ by a factor of 1,000 billion times between head and toe, depending on which is leading the free fall. In other words, if the person is falling feet first, as they approach the event horizon of a stellar mass black hole, the gravitational pull on their feet will be exponentially larger compared to the black hole’s tug on their head.

The person would experience spaghettification, and most likely not survive being stretched into a long, thin noodlelike shape.

As the person approaches the event horizon of a a Sun-size black hole, the vast difference in gravitational pull between the inidvidual’s head and toes causes the person to stretch into a very long noodle, hence the term ‘spaghettification’. Credit: Leo and Shanshan Rodriguez, CC BY-ND

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Now, a person falling into a supermassive black hole would reach the event horizon much farther from the central source of gravitational pull, which means that the difference in gravitational pull between head and toe is nearly zero. Thus, the person would pass through the event horizon unaffected, not be stretched into a long, thin noodle, survive and float painlessly past the black hole’s horizon.

A person falling into a supermassive black hole would likely survive. Credit: Leo and Shanshan Rodriguez, CC BY-ND

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Other considerations Most black holes that we observe in the universe are surrounded by very hot disks of material, mostly comprising gas and dust or other objects like stars and planets that got too close to the horizon and fell into the black hole. These disks are called accretion disks and are very hot and turbulent. They are most certainly not hospitable and would make traveling into the black hole extremely dangerous.

To enter one safely, you would need to find a supermassive black hole that is completely isolated and not feeding on surrounding material, gas, and or even stars.

Now, if a person found an isolated supermassive black hole suitable for scientific study and decided to venture in, everything observed or measured of the black hole interior would be confined within the black hole’s event horizon.

Keeping in mind that nothing can escape the gravitational pull beyond the event horizon, the in-falling person would not be able to send any information about their findings back out beyond this horizon. Their journey and findings would be lost to the rest of the entire universe for all time. But they would enjoy the adventure, for as long as they survived … maybe ….

Written by Leo Rodriguez, Assistant Professor of Physics, Grinnell College and Shanshan Rodriguez, Assistant Professor of Physics, Grinnell College.

Originally published on The Conversation.The Conversation


TOPICS: Astronomy; Health/Medicine; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: blackhole; darkmatter; eventhorizon; hawkingradiation; rocinante; speedofdark; stringtheory
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

There’s a theory I read called the “Wave Structure of Matter” that proposes that basically, everything is just waves all the way down. The particles are generated by harmonic combination of all the waves in the entire universe, creating particles in certain localities where the waves are colliding in just the right manner to produce a “standing wave” that has the properties of a particle.

Not sure if that theory is right, but it seems more sensible than the “particles are sometimes particles, and sometimes waves, depending on what is around them and whether we are looking or not” theory.


61 posted on 04/06/2021 12:08:17 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger

I’ve done it twice, and I can tell you from personal experience, it can’t be done.


62 posted on 04/06/2021 12:35:21 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Red Badger

Hy,
Folks survive going over Niagara Falls.


63 posted on 04/06/2021 1:38:23 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Molon Labe')
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To: lee martell

They would presumably enter in a spacecraft. And there is no air in black holes, or space in general.


64 posted on 04/06/2021 2:54:51 PM PDT by ready2brd
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To: Red Badger

Incorrect. It would vanish after crossing the event horizon. The whole point of the EH is that information and light cannot overcome the gravitational pull at that radius from the center.


65 posted on 04/06/2021 3:01:04 PM PDT by ready2brd
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To: RoosterRedux

I knew this would be a good thread!! :-)


66 posted on 04/06/2021 3:32:56 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: wardaddy

Ok, so now were are flying into a black hole, naked!


67 posted on 04/06/2021 3:38:16 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Ozark Tom

Oh, like your from he Ozarks!


68 posted on 04/06/2021 3:40:09 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: a fool in paradise
Does the brain know when the body is dead?

Yes, of course. But without a mouth, lips, and tongue, they can't tell anyone.

69 posted on 04/06/2021 3:50:27 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Red Badger

I’d say yes.

There are plenty of bi-racial children as a matter of proof.


70 posted on 04/06/2021 3:52:59 PM PDT by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: Red Badger

Seeing that black holes are theoretical, theorize away!


71 posted on 04/06/2021 3:53:14 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: Red Badger; 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks Red Badger. I think I'll let someone else go first.


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72 posted on 04/06/2021 5:22:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: This_Dude

That’s right, in addition, who cares?


73 posted on 04/06/2021 5:44:26 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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To: Red Badger
One of the theories about lightening is that cosmic rays create the path that the bolt then follows. What makes these super energetic particles from space? Black holes mostly. So when you hear that crack of thunder realize that a black hole somewhere deep in the Universe may have triggered it.
74 posted on 04/06/2021 5:50:48 PM PDT by Nateman (Keep Liberty Alive! Article V)
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To: Joe Boucher
Folks survive going over Niagara Falls.

NIAGARA FALLS! Slowly I turned....step....by....step......inch.....by....inch....

75 posted on 04/06/2021 5:57:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

Wasn’t there a Rush song about this?


76 posted on 04/06/2021 6:01:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

If you’re gonna fall into a Black hole, better have some pancakes and a Johnny Cash Song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLQhKLPwUp4


77 posted on 04/06/2021 8:09:31 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: Magnum44
I will ask, “how can anything, even x-rays and radiation, escape the gravity well where not even light can escape?”

Because light is not nearly as high-energy as other spots on the spectrum. Something that can hold in light may not be able to hold in gamma rays, that then slowly deplete the black hole of energy (mass), until there isn't enough left to hold it together. Hawking Radiation as well, although that is slightly different, and theorizes the black hole is eating up "negative" particles generated outside the event horizon that then simply cancel out the energy (mass) in the hole. And of course, there's always dark matter, antimatter, either of which may have anti-gravity effects that then weaken the black hole. And don;t forget the theory that black holes are simply wormholes to another universe, so they're actually moving all that stuff they capture and tossing it into an alternate universe. Whose black holes dump their captured material into our universe (why do stars get bigger or go supernova?).
78 posted on 04/06/2021 9:11:45 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: SgtHooper

U lost me admiral


79 posted on 04/06/2021 9:46:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: Red Badger

In a not too serious and scientific vein, just ask Barack Obama or Little Willie Brown that question.

No need for any more expensive studies!


80 posted on 04/06/2021 9:54:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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