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Neanderthals of Western Mediterranean did not become extinct because of changes in climate
EurekAlert! ^ | July 20, 2020 | Universita di Bologna

Posted on 07/25/2020 10:46:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Homo Neanderthaliensis did not become extinct because of changes in climate. At least, this did not happen to the several Neanderthals groups that lived in the western Mediterranean 42,000 years ago. A research group of the University of Bologna came to this conclusion after a detailed paleoclimatic reconstruction of the last ice age through the analysis of stalagmites sampled from some caves in Apulia, Italy.

The researchers focused on the Murge karst plateau in Apulia, where Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens coexisted for at least 3,000 years, from approximately 45,000 to 42,000 years ago... Data extracted from the stalagmites showed that climate changes that happened during that time span were not particularly significant... explains Andrea Columbu, researcher and first author of this study. "It doesn't seem possible that significant climate changes happened during that period, at least not impactful enough to cause the extinction of Neanderthals in Apulia and, by the same token, in similar areas of the Mediterranean".

The hypothesis that a changing climate was a factor in Neanderthals extinction (that happened, in Europe, nearly 42,000 years ago) found considerable support among the scientific community. According to this theory, during the last ice age, sharp and rapid changes in climate were a decisive factor in Neanderthals' extinction because of the increasingly cold and dry weather.

We can find confirmation of these sharp changes in the analysis of ice cores from Greenland and from other paleoclimatic archives of continental Europe. However, when it comes to some Mediterranean areas where Neanderthals had lived since 100,000 years ago, the data tell a different story. The Western Mediterranean is rich in prehistorical findings and, until now, no one ever carried out a paleoclimatic reconstruction of these Neanderthals-occupied areas.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; greennewdeal; navigation; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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(from the FRchives and the ghost town of dead internet links)
Caves reveal clues to UK weather
by Tom Heap
Saturday, December 2, 2000
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(I like that closing sentence -- "future decision-making could be made based on scientific data and not on political expediency". I wouldn't count on it, but that would be great.)
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1 posted on 07/25/2020 10:46:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
KEYWORDS: neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

2 posted on 07/25/2020 10:46:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It was their lack of access to affordable healthcare


3 posted on 07/25/2020 10:50:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: SunkenCiv

“Turn those machines back on!”


4 posted on 07/25/2020 10:50:56 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: SunkenCiv

They live in Russia now


5 posted on 07/25/2020 10:51:13 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: a fool in paradise

Imma take that premise now and write myself a few papers to buy a comfortable retirement.


6 posted on 07/25/2020 10:51:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: SunkenCiv

They wouldn’t wear their maks.


7 posted on 07/25/2020 10:53:38 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Couldn’t hack living in a tough neighborhood, full of Homo Sapiens.


8 posted on 07/25/2020 11:07:08 AM PDT by BeauBo
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I had heard that the interbreeding of Neanderthals with Homo Sapiens caused the Neanderthals to die off.


9 posted on 07/25/2020 11:10:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SunkenCiv

Southern Italy
10 posted on 07/25/2020 11:14:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv
Absorbed/bred into the Homo Spaien dominant culture? Neanderthal girls will do in a clinch - any Port in a storm.


11 posted on 07/25/2020 11:15:36 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

LOL, Chelsea Clinton as a Neanderthal girl.

Who knows, maybe many of us have some recessive genes from distant Neanderthal ancestors.


12 posted on 07/25/2020 11:19:58 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SunkenCiv

“Neanderthals of Western Mediterranean did not become extinct because of changes in climate”

Oh yeah? Explain all those fossils of Neanderthal oil plants and SUVs, huh?


13 posted on 07/25/2020 11:21:51 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Brunette Neanderthal Girls:

With a lot of highlights:


14 posted on 07/25/2020 11:25:48 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Most Europeans and Asians have 2-4% Neanderthal/Denisovan DNA. 23 and me will tell you how much. (Ancestry.com won’t... I found out disappointedly...damned Mormons)


15 posted on 07/25/2020 11:27:55 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Huh.

Wonder if the ol’ Pelasgians had any connection to Neanderthals or heavily crossbred Neanders and Humans in the Aegean AO?


16 posted on 07/25/2020 11:29:15 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: BeauBo

17 posted on 07/25/2020 11:31:14 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Howdy Partner,

Looks like Chelsea out-Neanderthals her dad.


18 posted on 07/25/2020 11:38:25 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It was like putting a drop of ink in a bucket of milk. They got diluted.

And the fact that a child with a homo sapiens sapiens father meant that the homo sapiens neanderthalensis mother and child had a better chance of living would have made them preferred mates leaving the homo sapiens neanderthalensis males out in the cold.

19 posted on 07/25/2020 11:39:20 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: SunkenCiv

It wuz dem giants that done kilt off dose Neanderfallers.


20 posted on 07/25/2020 11:52:30 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect?? It's NYC.)
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