Mysterious particles spewing from Antarctica defy physics

Live Science ^ | 01/24/2020 | Rafi Letzter

[BenLurkin]

The death of this reigning physics paradigm, the Standard Model, has been predicted for decades. There are hints of its problems in the physics we already have. Strange results from laboratory experiments suggest flickers of ghostly new species of neutrinos beyond the three described in the Standard Model. And the universe seems full of dark matter that no particle in the Standard Model can explain.

But recent tantalizing evidence might one day tie those vague strands of data together: Three times since 2016, ultra-high-energy particles have blasted up through the ice of Antarctica, setting off detectors in the Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna (ANITA) experiment, a machine dangling from a NASA balloon far above the frozen surface.

As Live Science reported in 2018, those events — along with several additional particles detected later at the buried Antarctic neutrino observatory IceCube — don't match the expected behavior of any Standard Model particles. The particles look like ultra high-energy neutrinos. But ultra high-energy neutrinos shouldn't be able to pass through the Earth. That suggests that some other kind of particle — one that's never been seen before — is flinging itself into the cold southern sky.

Now, in a new paper, a team of physicists working on IceCube have cast heavy doubt on one of the last remaining Standard Model explanations for these particles: cosmic accelerators, giant neutrino guns hiding in space that would periodically fire intense neutrino bullets at Earth. A collection of hyperactive neutrino guns somewhere in our northern sky could have blasted enough neutrinos into Earth that we'd detect particles shooting out of the southern tip of our planet. But the IceCube researchers didn't find any evidence of that collection out there, which suggests new physics must be needed to explain the mysterious particles.

[NobleFree]

Some real science, from the original paper:

“In addition to explanations that incite new physics, it has recently been suggested that the AAE could be explained by downward-going CR-induced EAS that reflected off of subsurface features in the Antarctic ice (Shoemaker et al. 2019). Another possible explanation could be coherent transition radiation from the geomagnetically-induced air shower current, which could mimic an upgoing air shower (de Vries & Prohira 2019).” - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.01737.pdf

[Phlap]

There is nothing new, under the Sun.

[whistleduck]

Yep.thats the ticket.

[Openurmind]

Another post exposing the fact that post count does not truly reflect the quality of those posts in whole... lol

[Savage Beast]

Ancient Aliens:

https://hiddenremote.com/2019/06/07/ancient-aliens-return-to-antarctica/

[xp38]

hmm....might be the first time I’ve seen flying saucers in camo

[sphinx]

They're Gretons. Young particles that can be detected by their whine.

LOL. You win the Friday pool.

[Migraine]

I have another quote I would like to have more info about:

"The message we want to convey to the public is that a Standard Model astrophysical explanation does not work no matter how you slice it," Barbano said.

Are String Theory or Singularity parts of the Standard Model? I wonder what, if anything, Barbano would say the many new findings on neutrinos imply re: those theories?

[Migraine]

Must be. It’s a World Record, I believe?

[zeugma]

The Standard Model has been falsified in so many ways that I consider it a religion at this point.

Pretty much. We're missing something big. I'm not even sure if the electric universe theories cover everything. The universe is a weird place, and God apparently has a sense of humor.

[zeugma]

Are String Theory or Singularity parts of the Standard Model? I wonder what, if anything, Barbano would say the many new findings on neutrinos imply re: those theories?

String theory isn't even wrong.

[Jewbacca]

You’ve seen non-cammo UFOs?

[Vaduz]

Flickers of ghostly new species of neutrinos.Oh fear not it’s only UFO exhaust it sells now days.

[Migraine]

I neither stated nor implied anything about String Theory being right or wrong in and of itself. I was asking if current ideas re: String Theory or Singularity were part of the Standard Model, some elements of which are said in this article to be in jeopardy of being falsified by the current and recent neutrino discoveries.

So your terse answer, for which I am grateful nonetheless, doesn’t really relate to my question. Again, thanks for responding.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks BenLurkin.

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Three times since 2016, ultra-high-energy particles have blasted up through the ice of Antarctica, setting off detectors in the Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna (ANITA) experiment... those events — along with several additional particles detected later at the buried Antarctic neutrino observatory IceCube — don't match the expected behavior of any Standard Model particles... a team of physicists working on IceCube have cast heavy doubt on one of the last remaining Standard Model explanations for these particles: cosmic accelerators, giant neutrino guns hiding in space that would periodically fire intense neutrino bullets at Earth.

Will they finally bury the Standard Model, or just lick some more ass and kludge their way through?

[thoughtomator]

I ran across something called the Rope Hypothesis, which, while very incomplete, offers some fascinating ideas that appear to fit perfectly with observed phenomena.

[Seruzawa]

These articles are what I think of when I see smarmy technocrats like that @$$ Tyson.

[zeugma]

So your terse answer, for which I am grateful nonetheless, doesn’t really relate to my question. Again, thanks for responding.

actually, my response was more of a joke than anything else. I can't remember who originated the meme of 'not even wrong' regarding string theory, but it certainly fits, since nothing in string theory can be falsified. I think String theory is mostly mathematical masturbation. I don't think either string theory or singularity really fit the standard model. Could be wrong about that. This being FR, I'm sure that if I am, I'll be told so multiple times :-)

[xp38]

Only in the movies. :)

[Waverunner]

Sorry, we now have proof, courtesy of the Finns, that the Nazi Base is on the moon.