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Low Recruit Discipline Prompts Army to Redesign Basic Training
Military.com ^

Posted on 02/10/2018 6:26:58 AM PST by Strac6

The U.S. Army will soon launch a redesign of Basic Combat Training intended to build more discipline after many commanders complained that new soldiers often show up to their first units with a sloppy appearance and undisciplined attitudes.

The program will also feature three new field training exercises that place a greater emphasis on forcing recruits to demonstrate Warrior Tasks and Battle Drills, the list of key skills all soldiers are taught to survive in combat.

The new program of instruction is the result of surveys taken from thousands of leaders who have observed a trend of new soldiers fresh out of training displaying a lack of obedience and poor work ethic as well as being careless with equipment, uniform and appearance,

"What leaders have observed in general is they believe that there is too much of a sense of entitlement, questioning of lawful orders, not listening to instruction, too much of a buddy mentality with NCOs and officers and a lot of tardiness being late to formation and duties,"

"The other big piece we are doing in Basic Combat Training that helps with the esprit de corps and the discipline aspect and also lends a measure of grit and resilience to [BCT] is we have three major field training exercises that we are going to do now. We are calling them the Hammer, the Anvil and the Forge," Frost said, describing how the final Forge FTX is an homage to the Army's historic ties to Valley Forge.

"That is going to be a culminating FTX which is a graduation requirement. It will be an 81-hour field training exercise with about 40 miles of tactical road marching that is conducted through a series of tactical events and mini field training exercises."

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"The number-one thing that was asked for five-fold or five times as much as any of the other categories was discipline," Frost said.

About effing time!

The real problem is now the Army will have to fix the problems caused by 18 years of bad parenting and bad schools.

It's about time. When a BCT recruit "broke" at Ft. Benning in 1966, Drill Sergeant Joe B. Frick was asked if he had been "too hard" on him. Frick answered, "Thank God I was. The worst sin of any Army Drill Sergeant or Basic Training Commander is to graduate a recruit who will break down in Vietnam or any combat and get himself and others killed."

Tough, disciplined soldiers, and their Armies, and their Countries win. They win in a game where second price is a coffin, for the dead soldier, and a coffin his friends, his Army, his country.

1 posted on 02/10/2018 6:26:58 AM PST by Strac6
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To: Strac6

No generation has ever been played the victim or been as much a bunch of snowflakes as this one. I hope they can change them.


2 posted on 02/10/2018 6:30:40 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Strac6

In 1969 when I was in BCT, the cadre complained that the whiners would get people killed. Until they can create kinder and gentler combat, the hard way will be the only way.


3 posted on 02/10/2018 6:31:37 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Strac6

Bet the new troops were in tip-top shape on diversity and gender flexibility, though.


4 posted on 02/10/2018 6:33:14 AM PST by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: Strac6
the problems caused by 18 years of bad parenting and bad schools.

Not to mention a decade or more of accepting and coddling the LGBTs has sent a very wrong message to recruits as a whole.

5 posted on 02/10/2018 6:33:37 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should care less about who we may offend and care more about who we may inspire.)
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The worst sin of any Army Drill Sergeant or Basic Training Commander is to graduate a recruit who will break down in Vietnam or any combat and get himself and others killed."

I'm thankful every day that I was in that Army, and not today's.

6 posted on 02/10/2018 6:34:17 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Strac6

EMI - Time to spend some time with my favorite PT trainer, ‘Friendly Frank’ - OMG he almost killed me in boot camp ...


7 posted on 02/10/2018 6:36:12 AM PST by 11th_VA (People who deny reality often do not live to regret it.)
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To: onedoug

We both “bet our sweet asses” we were.


8 posted on 02/10/2018 6:36:18 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: 11th_VA

.... and the strength he gave you persists today, doesn’t it!

Be well.


9 posted on 02/10/2018 6:37:24 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Strac6

Where’s Sgt.. Hulka?


10 posted on 02/10/2018 6:38:29 AM PST by rey
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To: Strac6
.... and the strength he gave you persists today, doesn’t it!

And great stories to tell the grand kids ;)

11 posted on 02/10/2018 6:38:52 AM PST by 11th_VA (People who deny reality often do not live to regret it.)
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"You want me to "drop" and give you twenty? WTF, bro? Twenty what?"


12 posted on 02/10/2018 6:40:12 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Strac6

The new program of instruction is the result of surveys taken from thousands of leaders who have observed a trend of new soldiers fresh out of training displaying a lack of obedience and poor work ethic as well as being careless with equipment, uniform and appearance,

“What leaders have observed in general is they believe that there is too much of a sense of entitlement, questioning of lawful orders, not listening to instruction, too much of a buddy mentality with NCOs and officers and a lot of tardiness being late to formation and duties,”

...

The Obama Generation.


13 posted on 02/10/2018 6:40:32 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Spok: "In 1969 when I was in BCT..."

Me too, but even then the drill sergeants were forced to go easy on us -- for example, they had to call us "meat heads" instead of what we really were. ;-)

14 posted on 02/10/2018 6:40:53 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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"The new BCT does, however, do away with hand grenade qualification and land navigation course qualification as graduation requirements."

WTF


15 posted on 02/10/2018 6:41:08 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Strac6

They might try putting Marine Corps Drill Instructors in charge of basic training for a year or so.

L


16 posted on 02/10/2018 6:42:05 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Friendly Frank (after I did 25 push-ups): "DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING RECRUIT?"

ME: "SIR, YES SIR !!!"

Friendly Frank: " WELL THE COST FOR EDUCATION JUST WENT UP, GIVE ME TWENTY_FIVE MORE !!!!"

17 posted on 02/10/2018 6:44:29 AM PST by 11th_VA (People who deny reality often do not live to regret it.)
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To: onedoug
Same here. I went through basic in 1965. OCS in 1967. Most of today’s snowflakes would have melted in the basic I went through...and most were draftees.

Yeah, piss-pour parenting and the NEA in the public schools have ill-prepared the youth for the reality of adult life.

What the NEA and public schools have prepared for the rest of the world is “lunch”.

18 posted on 02/10/2018 6:44:30 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Build KateÂ’s Wall! Never Forget!)
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To: 11th_VA

The thought of these snowflakes being in a actual shooting war is pretty scary.


19 posted on 02/10/2018 6:44:39 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Strac6

The first words I heard from my Drill Instructor were: “I have 12 weeks to undo the damage your parents caused in 18 years.” And he did.

Semper fi
Platoon 102 Jan-Apr 1959
Parris Island, SC


20 posted on 02/10/2018 6:45:00 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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