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"The number-one thing that was asked for five-fold or five times as much as any of the other categories was discipline," Frost said.

About effing time!

The real problem is now the Army will have to fix the problems caused by 18 years of bad parenting and bad schools.

It's about time. When a BCT recruit "broke" at Ft. Benning in 1966, Drill Sergeant Joe B. Frick was asked if he had been "too hard" on him. Frick answered, "Thank God I was. The worst sin of any Army Drill Sergeant or Basic Training Commander is to graduate a recruit who will break down in Vietnam or any combat and get himself and others killed."

Tough, disciplined soldiers, and their Armies, and their Countries win. They win in a game where second price is a coffin, for the dead soldier, and a coffin his friends, his Army, his country.

1 posted on 02/10/2018 6:26:58 AM PST by Strac6
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No generation has ever been played the victim or been as much a bunch of snowflakes as this one. I hope they can change them.


2 posted on 02/10/2018 6:30:40 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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In 1969 when I was in BCT, the cadre complained that the whiners would get people killed. Until they can create kinder and gentler combat, the hard way will be the only way.


3 posted on 02/10/2018 6:31:37 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Bet the new troops were in tip-top shape on diversity and gender flexibility, though.


4 posted on 02/10/2018 6:33:14 AM PST by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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the problems caused by 18 years of bad parenting and bad schools.

Not to mention a decade or more of accepting and coddling the LGBTs has sent a very wrong message to recruits as a whole.

5 posted on 02/10/2018 6:33:37 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should care less about who we may offend and care more about who we may inspire.)
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The worst sin of any Army Drill Sergeant or Basic Training Commander is to graduate a recruit who will break down in Vietnam or any combat and get himself and others killed."

I'm thankful every day that I was in that Army, and not today's.

6 posted on 02/10/2018 6:34:17 AM PST by onedoug
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EMI - Time to spend some time with my favorite PT trainer, ‘Friendly Frank’ - OMG he almost killed me in boot camp ...


7 posted on 02/10/2018 6:36:12 AM PST by 11th_VA (People who deny reality often do not live to regret it.)
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Where’s Sgt.. Hulka?


10 posted on 02/10/2018 6:38:29 AM PST by rey
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"You want me to "drop" and give you twenty? WTF, bro? Twenty what?"


12 posted on 02/10/2018 6:40:12 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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The new program of instruction is the result of surveys taken from thousands of leaders who have observed a trend of new soldiers fresh out of training displaying a lack of obedience and poor work ethic as well as being careless with equipment, uniform and appearance,

“What leaders have observed in general is they believe that there is too much of a sense of entitlement, questioning of lawful orders, not listening to instruction, too much of a buddy mentality with NCOs and officers and a lot of tardiness being late to formation and duties,”

...

The Obama Generation.


13 posted on 02/10/2018 6:40:32 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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"The new BCT does, however, do away with hand grenade qualification and land navigation course qualification as graduation requirements."

WTF


15 posted on 02/10/2018 6:41:08 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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They might try putting Marine Corps Drill Instructors in charge of basic training for a year or so.

L


16 posted on 02/10/2018 6:42:05 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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The first words I heard from my Drill Instructor were: “I have 12 weeks to undo the damage your parents caused in 18 years.” And he did.

Semper fi
Platoon 102 Jan-Apr 1959
Parris Island, SC


20 posted on 02/10/2018 6:45:00 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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Dad was a marine. WW2. He couldn’t stand watching any of the History channel shows with R Lee Ermey. Brought back some nasty memories I suppose.


24 posted on 02/10/2018 6:50:49 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Army Basic in Ft Knox in 1981. US Coast Guard Basic in Cape May in 1986. (Any body else do it twice?)

DI’s did all they could, I am sure. We had no gays, cross dressers, snowflakes or social justice warriors, just your everyday run of the mill slackers and malcontents.

Any one up for 2 or 3 100 count push-ups? (yeah, me neither, BUT back in the day I woulda had your ass!)


26 posted on 02/10/2018 6:54:44 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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Th enevitable results of pressure on recruiters and signing bonuses. Wish I could offer up a solution!!!


32 posted on 02/10/2018 7:09:34 AM PST by ontap
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Oh boy...maybe they could start out with coloring books.

“STAY INSIDE THE LINES RECRUIT! Didn’t your mama ever teach you anything?”


34 posted on 02/10/2018 7:11:37 AM PST by moovova
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I dunno. Every time I walk past a group of junior Soldiers, they pop to attention. Maybe that’s because in the Medical Department, people need to be smart to get through the schooling—and it takes discipline to stick with challenging academic subjects.

I used to tell a friend, every time we would be walking around and young Soldiers would pop to attention, that they are so cute at that age. Because when they mature into NCOs, they do not pop any more.


37 posted on 02/10/2018 7:18:30 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I suspect some of the problem, also, is having females in the training.


39 posted on 02/10/2018 7:24:36 AM PST by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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If there is that much lacking at the END of basic, then I think the training is missing something.

I did not have to into Army to understand that “on time was late.” My dad drilled into my head by the time I was five or six.

Oh wait,....maybe I am touching on something....


49 posted on 02/10/2018 7:41:04 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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The US will need to hire armies of “unsullied”. Certainly, the “honorable discharge” needs to be exercised in overdrive and have serious consequences in civy life.


57 posted on 02/10/2018 7:48:40 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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