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Family Tree of Dogs and Wolves Is Found to Split Earlier Than Thought
New York Times ^
| MAY 21, 2015
| JAMES GORMAN
Posted on 05/21/2015 10:13:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
The ancestors of modern wolves and dogs split into different evolutionary lineages 27,000 to 40,000 years ago, much earlier than some other research has suggested, scientists reported Thursday.
The new finding is based on a bone fragment found on the Taimyr Peninsula in Siberia several years ago. When scientists studied the bone and reconstructed its genome the first time that had been done for an ancient wolf, or any kind of ancient carnivore they found it was a new species that lived 35,000 years ago.
Based on the differences between the genome of the new species, called the Taimyr wolf, and the genomes of modern wolves and dogs, the researchers built a family tree that shows wolves and dogs splitting much earlier than the 11,000 to 16,000 years ago that a study in 2014 concluded.
Their study also gives some dog-park bragging rights to owners of Siberian huskies and Greenland sled dogs, which have inherited a portion of their genes from the Taimyr wolf.
The history of dogs is still murky, however, because it seems that different kinds of wolves and dogs have interbred at different times in different places over the past tens of thousands of years.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
TOPICS: History; Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; dietandcuisine; dog; dogs; domestication; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; wolves
To: Joe 6-pack
To: nickcarraway
The inferred tracks of ancestral Ne in dogs show a population decline of at least 16-fold over the past 50 thousand years,.. However, interpretation of these phylogenetic signals is challenging due to the possibilityof post-divergence gene flow between dogs and wolves, One important factor that could complicate inference of divergence between dogs and wolves
This method tallies site patterns for four taxa, compares them to those expected under an assumed phylogeny
We next inferred a complete demographic model for dogs and wolves
Our divergence time estimates imply that dogs and wolves diverged 14.9 thousand years ago
Interestingly, we inferred a divergence time of 398 kya (382415 kya) between the golden jackal and the population ancestral to dogs and wolves
G-PhoCS produced estimates of ancestral effective population sizes compatible with the ones inferred by PSMC
Our inference of a pre-agriculture origin of dogs
Interpretation of the phylogenetic signals in these genomes was particularly challenging due to high levels of incomplete lineage
Our inferences of ancestral population size
The divergence time between dogs and wolves provides an estimated upper bound... Get the point? There is nothing proved here, everything is an assumption, has not been proved and yet is presented as fact.
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posted on
05/21/2015 10:35:28 PM PDT
by
Fungi
To: Fungi
...and yet is presented as fact. They should have use words like 'inferred' and 'interpretation' and 'assumed' so that people wouldn't come to that conclusion.
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posted on
05/21/2015 10:44:58 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
To: Fungi
Sounds like this is proof of Global Warming.
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posted on
05/21/2015 11:57:08 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
To: TigersEye
I'm going to infer that it's safe to assume the word "droll" applies to your interpretation.
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posted on
05/22/2015 12:32:47 AM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(We are vain and we are blind/I hate people when they're not polite.)
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posted on
05/22/2015 1:38:54 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
To: FredZarguna
You caught me, I was just drolling. I’m an internet droll.
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posted on
05/22/2015 2:22:02 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
(If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
I guess they must have used AncestryDogCom.
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posted on
05/22/2015 2:25:16 AM PDT
by
9thLife
("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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posted on
05/22/2015 4:01:54 AM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
To: Joe 6-pack
This must be a slow news day..................
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posted on
05/22/2015 4:22:27 AM PDT
by
DaveA37
Thanks nickcarraway.
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posted on
05/22/2015 4:30:53 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
To: 9thLife
“I guess they must have used AncestryDogCom.”
Instead of a leaf they use a bone.
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posted on
05/22/2015 4:37:21 AM PDT
by
Stormdog
(A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
To: nickcarraway
All I know is that my blue-eyed wolf dog is a big nut.
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posted on
05/22/2015 6:11:51 AM PDT
by
pallis
To: beebuster2000
Bow-woooooo, werewolves of the Pleistocene...
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posted on
05/23/2015 5:15:42 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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