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Neanderthal Children Were Large, Sturdy
Discovery News 'blogs ^ | Tuesday, October 19, 2010 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 10/25/2010 8:16:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The remains of this infant -- a lower jaw and teeth unearthed in a Belgian cave -- are the youngest Neanderthal ever found in northwest Europe, according to a study that will appear in the Journal of Human Evolution.

Since the remains of two adults were also previously discovered in the cave, the fossil collection may represent a Neanderthal family.

If the trio said "cheese" for a family portrait, their smiles would have been hard to miss, since Neanderthal front teeth were larger than those for modern humans.

When the infant died, "he already possessed Neanderthal characteristics, notably a strong mandibular corpus (toothy part of the lower jaw)," lead author Isabelle Crevecoeur told Discovery News.

Crevecoeur is a director of anthropological research at the National Center of Scientific Research (CNRS) in France.

She and her colleagues analyzed the Neanderthal child's remains, found at Spy Cave in Jemeppe-sur-Sambre, Belgium. The cave is part of a rock shelter located close to a small river, the Orneau.

"Its location on the bottom of the cliff that overhangs the valley was probably really advantageous with a clear view of the valley," Crevecoeur said.

Neanderthals started to use the cave around 44,000 years ago. The newly discovered infant, however, lived there about 33,000 years ago, suggesting Neanderthal groups persisted in this area over the millennia.

"Belgium has a long-standing Neanderthal history," she explained. "The country has the highest concentration of Neanderthal remains. The first Neanderthal specimen ever found was in Belgium during the 19th century."

The oldest DNA sequence of a Neanderthal also comes from Belgium.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.discovery.com ...


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Teeth from the newly discovered Neanderthal infant appear in this photo. [Isabelle Crevecoeur]

Neanderthal Children Were Large, Sturdy
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

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Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

1 posted on 10/25/2010 8:16:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 10/25/2010 8:17:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I'll take two. 3 if they can help move the piano.

/johnny

3 posted on 10/25/2010 8:18:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SunkenCiv
Neanderthal Children Were Large, Sturdy

Still are.

Ya'll been to a Walmart lately?

4 posted on 10/25/2010 8:19:00 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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Modern humans emerged far earlier than previously thought (China)
Washington University in St. Louis | October 25, 2010 | Unknown
Posted on 10/25/2010 2:06:23 PM PDT by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2614326/posts


5 posted on 10/25/2010 8:19:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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Neanderthal Children Were Large, Sturdy

So are mine. However, that looks like 12 teeth to me. Frank is 17 months old and has 10 teeth, and he's a very early teether for our family. James didn't have a tooth at all until 15 months.

A lot of kids could die before they ever got a tooth. "Neanderthal kids who lived until age 2 were large, sturdy" seems more likely ... the small, weakly ones died.

6 posted on 10/25/2010 8:20:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Making the best of every virtue and vice.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I'm not sure about the children but...

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7 posted on 10/25/2010 8:20:30 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Its a testemant to our ancient ancestors how completely the old race has been erased. Personally I think they were dumb enough to start it and we were smart enough and adaptable enough to win it. Have to wonder what the Second Men will look like.


8 posted on 10/25/2010 8:22:35 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: SunkenCiv

9 posted on 10/25/2010 8:23:37 PM PDT by CurlyBill (1-20-13 can't get here fast enough!)
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To: CurlyBill

Michael Moore?


10 posted on 10/25/2010 8:24:43 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Neanderthal Children Were Large, Sturdy

Well, duh.

11 posted on 10/25/2010 8:33:54 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SunkenCiv
The article begs the question--did Neanderthals have cheese?

They probably didn't have any domesticated animals to milk.

I thought the Neander Valley was in Germany.

12 posted on 10/25/2010 8:36:27 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: CurlyBill

Is that Jabba the Hut? Sure is ugly as sin.


13 posted on 10/25/2010 8:43:21 PM PDT by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: SunkenCiv
Who knew "Baby Ogg" wasn't petite?


14 posted on 10/25/2010 8:51:08 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Verginius Rufus
The article begs the question--did Neanderthals have cheese?

No, but they had moose.

15 posted on 10/25/2010 8:51:18 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The first dairymen were a hardy bunch; imagine gang-tackling a fresh yak. The invention of rope was likely critical to early successful efforts. Slowly, these wild hairy horned beasts became smaller Scottish Highland-like animals. Corrals and stanchions became the avant-garde technology. Grain farming finally reduced the bovines to where they would willingly come in and get felt up for a meal.

Any cheese that happened before that was purely accidental. I managed to make everything from yogurt to cottage cheese incidentally in buckets I was carting home (fresh cow bloody milk and penicillin milk from treated cows) from a dairy I used to work at (to feed my hogs). Some buckets would be pink, some blue, some green in all manner of semi-cheese consistency.

The hogs didn’t mind and ate it all, mixed with corn, etc.

It was like a window into ancient europe.


16 posted on 10/25/2010 8:54:40 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Rocky
"Michael Moore?"

Jerrold Nadler(D) NY

17 posted on 10/25/2010 8:56:16 PM PDT by redhead (Abortion: The number one killer of human beings. Period.)
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To: One Name; SunkenCiv; All

I don’t think the first dairy men used yaks. They probably started with goats, and then wild cattle. Sunken Civ recently posted an interesting article concerning the likelihood that milk drinking dairy herders migrated into central Europe around 8 or 9,000 year ago. With the superior nutrition provided by lactose tolerance and milk, they superceeded the previous inhabitants.

You may also have encountered some posts about the likelihood that we have from 1 to 4% Neanderthal genetic material in our bloodlines. My big boned, red headed warrior husband seemed like a good candidate for 4%. In my case, I have molars so large that the university dental clinic had a hard time locating a metal ring large enough to hold down the rubber dam they wanted to surround the tooth with. Also my roots seem very long compared to others I have seen.


18 posted on 10/25/2010 11:05:06 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: SunkenCiv

19 posted on 10/26/2010 3:48:54 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
They all look like the product of miscegenation with aliens, space aliens. Could have been the Irish whiskey, though.


20 posted on 10/26/2010 4:03:36 AM PDT by aruanan
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