Revolutionary discovery means world may not run out of crude

Digital Journal ^ | Sep 13, 2009 | Stephanie Dearing

[decimon]

A team of scientists based at the Royal Institute of Technology in Sweden have made a "revolutionary" discovery about how hydrocarbon is formed, learning that animal and plant fossils are not necessary to form crude oil.

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The article, titled Methane-derived hydrocarbons produced under upper mantle conditions, and published in Nature Geoscience, states that

"Whether hydrocarbons can also be produced from abiogenic precursor molecules under the high-pressure, high-temperature conditions characteristic of the upper mantle remains an open question. It has been proposed that hydrocarbons generated in the upper mantle could be transported through deep faults to shallower regions in the Earth’s crust, and contribute to petroleum reserves."

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[DesertRhino]

And its a coincidence im sure, that buying that hypothesis means that we need world government. After all, the atmosphere respects no borders.

[decimon]

Shocked . . . shocked, I say!

To find that gambling is happening in the mantle.

[editor-surveyor]

By now, most anyone with a brain knows that petroleum has to come from some other source than life waste. - How would it ever have gotten into pools, and how would we have so much of it?

Our known reserves have continually increased, year by year, in spite of the incredible volume we consume. Visualize a million barrels of oil - a huge amount, but we use more than that in a day.

[mamelukesabre]

Extremely high temps and pressures. Essentially a giant uber-pressure cooker. It doesn’t take millions of years either.

[SunkenCiv]

• first page of the thomasgold keyword:
• Oil Czar and ally
• Scientist stirs the cauldron: oil, he says, is renewable
• The world has more oil not less
• Supplies of oil may be inexhaustible
• Research Finds Life 1000 Feet Beneath Ocean Floor
• Oil Without End?
• Anything into Oil(solution to dependence on foregn oil?)
• Abiotic Theory of Oil Formation
• About Coal: America's most abundant energy resource
• Fossil Fuels Made without Fossils
• Hydrogen Production Method Could Bolster Fuel Supplies
• LINK LISTING - Space Propulsion Techniques and Technologies
• Methane on Mars: the plot thickens
• Shaped from clay [origin of life]
• At 30,000 feet down, where were the dinosaurs?
• 'Fossil fuel' theory takes hit with NASA finding
• Perspective: India's next big business? (Oil)
• UC Riverside Researchers Identify Clay as Major Contributor to Oxygen that Enabled Early Animal Life
• Does Deep Earth Host Untapped Fuel?
• Oil Is Well: The Shortage Is A Myth, And Not A New One
• Gas escaping from ocean floor may drive global warming
• Time Before Time [speculative cosmology]
• Marine Methane Heats Things Up
• Peak oil theorists don't know Jack ( It Could Increase U.S. Reserves by 50% )
• Plenty of Oil—Just Drill Deeper
• Prospecting for Oil? Look In an Asteroid Crater
• CNBC Live: Earth Oil Supplies 3x Previous Estimates
• If hydrocarbons are renewable- then is "Peak Oil" a fraud?
• The Origins of Peak Oil Doomerism
• Rebel with a Cause: The Optimistic Scientist
• Massive deep-water oil find in Brazil challenges technology
• Oil-eating bacteria make light work of heavy fuel
• Shedding light on deep-sea thermal vents
• Lost City pumps life-essential chemicals at rates unseen at typical black smokers
• Deep-ocean vents are a source of oil and gas (evidence of abiogenic hydrocarbons)
• BLACK-GOLD BLUES Discovery backs theory oil not 'fossil fuel'
• Titan's surface organics surpass oil reserves on Earth
• Titan Has More Oil Than Earth
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• Scientists Document Bustling Community Far Below Ocean Floor
• Meet the Intraterrestrials
• Rare Microorganism That Produces Hydrogen May Be Key To Tomorrow's Hydrogen Economy
• At 2.8 km down, a 1-of-a-kind microorganism lives all alone [descende, Audax viator ...]
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• BBC Audio: Dyson and Clarke (archive of BBC interviews with Freeman Dyson,Arthur C. Clarke & more!)
• Life found on Mars?
• Half Of The Oil In The Ocean Bubbles Up Naturally From Seafloor
• Methane-producing mineral discovered on Mars
• New research shows how oil gets stuck underground (Denmark)
• Can Hydrocarbons Form in the Mantle Without Organic Matter?
• A Seismic Shift In Understanding How The Earth Got Its Gas
• Fossil fuel: Now without the fossils-Just dig deeper, say boffins
• Methane-derived hydrocarbons produced under upper-mantle conditions

[editor-surveyor]

"There have been articles on FR about it before in the last few years."

If you search the posts of the late "Texas Cowboy" aka Cobb1, you will find dozens of threads on this. He was a petroleum engineer, and didn't accept biological origin.

[editor-surveyor]

"Weren’t we supposed to run out 20 years ago?"

In the '50s the Chicken Littles were telling us that we would run out in 1967.

[GeronL]

Well that solves where the oceans came from

[GeronL]

I totally agree

[TexasTransplant]

Bookmark for later

[Erasmus]

Science and engineering faculties are not as politically flatlined as their brethren at the same school.

[shield]

Yes, this has been around for a while now. Everyone has tried to poo poo this info...I believe it is correct.

[Erasmus]

Their approach would explain that strippers are created by building a bar, keeping it at a constant 72 degrees, serving alcohol, and playing motley crue. After all, these are precisely the conditions where you successfully find strippers.

That's how I always thought it worked.

Didn't Miller and Urey do an experiment like this about 50 years ago?

[mamelukesabre]

We probably would have, if no one ever drilled a new oil well and if we never started importing oil.

[mamelukesabre]

Actually, I strongly suspect if one were to build a totally bitchin bar with awesome lighting effects, motley crue blasting constantly, hire a few hells angels as doormen...the strippers *WOULD* spontaneously appear.

I bet ya.

[Sherman Logan]

Don’t know about petroleum and gas, but the other main fossil fuel, coal, seems reasonably well documented.

There is more or less a continuum from peat, which is being laid down today in many places, through lignite to bituminous coal to anthracite.

Unless I’ve misunderstood something, which is quite possible.

[Sherman Logan]

I always thought strippers were spontaneously generated when a critical mass of 20 dollar bills developed.

[mamelukesabre]

Heck no!

Wait, did you mean a critical mass of 20 one dollar bills?

Maybe.

[Sherman Logan]

I contend that the strippers generated by my critical mass of 20 dollar bills will be significantly hotter than yours generated by a critical mass of one dollar bills.

[mamelukesabre]

You forget about my harley.