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Neandertals Babies Didn't Do the Twist
ScienceNOW ^ | April 20, 2009 | Ann Gibbons

Posted on 04/28/2009 12:01:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Like many other researchers, paleoanthropologist Timothy Weaver of the University of California, Davis, thought the shift to this more complicated rotational birth predated the split between modern humans and Neandertals. That's because Neandertals, which lived until 30,000 years ago in Europe, also had big heads and, presumably, used the same evolutionary strategy to deliver their big-brained babies. But it has been difficult to test this idea. The only known female pelvis of a Neandertal, discovered in 1929 near Tabun, Israel, is fragmentary. Two earlier reconstructions of this partial pelvis suggested that Neandertals also had rotational birth, but the fossil is missing its sacrum and, hence, the birth canal... The two researchers were able to refit the pieces of the pubis, ischium, and ilium together in a three-dimensional, virtual reconstruction... But it will take more than a virtual pelvis to convince other researchers. "I don't know if I believe the reconstruction," says paleoanthropologist Karen Rosenberg of the University of Delaware, Newark. She and others have questions about the accuracy of the reconstruction of the missing parts of the pelvis, which are critical for proving there was no rotation. "Given the poor preservation of the Tabun pelvis, ... this is a bold claim," says anthropologist Marcia Ponce de León of the University of Zurich in Switzerland. She does agree, however, with one conclusion: "Birth was equally difficult in Neandertals as in modern humans," with or without a twist.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
Twist and shout. This virtual reconstruction of a Neandertal pelvis suggests that Neandertal babies didn't rotate during birth. [Timothy Weaver and Jean-Jacques Hublin]

Neandertals Babies Didnt Do the Twist

1 posted on 04/28/2009 12:01:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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speaking of canals...
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

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Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

2 posted on 04/28/2009 12:01:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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3 posted on 04/28/2009 12:02:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

4 posted on 04/28/2009 12:08:25 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SunkenCiv

UC Davis....

Can anything out of there be accepted as reliable?


5 posted on 04/28/2009 12:29:14 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Come on baby...let’s do the twist...”


6 posted on 04/28/2009 12:34:52 PM PDT by Jagermonster (The 2009 Debt Stimulus: This time, it really is for the children.)
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To: Jagermonster

They didn’t do the twist, but they did the stroll...


7 posted on 04/28/2009 12:38:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

So this educated scientific study is deduced from 1 set of highly fragmented old bones, from one individual, and some how this is supposed to represent an entire group of people? Is that right?


8 posted on 04/28/2009 12:42:44 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: bert

:’)


9 posted on 04/28/2009 12:44:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Grant money.


10 posted on 04/28/2009 1:02:35 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: bert

“Can anything out of there be accepted as reliable?”

That’s my question, too. Generally, I think no.


11 posted on 04/28/2009 1:11:39 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Paleoanthrapologist: Just so.


12 posted on 04/28/2009 2:30:50 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: vpintheak

IMHO, the guy doing the study had already made up his mind what he would find.


13 posted on 04/28/2009 4:54:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

You are correct sir. The same mistake made over and over again. These scientists already know the answer they want, and make their models fit their pre-determined answer. Just look at globull warming.


14 posted on 04/29/2009 12:46:12 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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