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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: DelaWhere

Brazilian scientists have identified a new strain of the H1N1 virus after examining samples from a patient in Sao Paulo, their institute said Tuesday.<<<

The new strains are to be feared, as they may well be more deadly than the somewhat weak one going around now.


8,981 posted on 06/17/2009 1:59:39 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States Government under ‘Obam-A-Lama-Ding-Dong’ is doing business today. It is truly frightening.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2269552/posts
<<<

Good graphic picture.....

And not that far off, for being the truth.


8,982 posted on 06/17/2009 2:01:53 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Report: Workers face worst conditions since the Great Depression

City of West New York, NJ -73

http://www.layoffdaily.com/

<<<

But folks around here don’t know that they are in trouble, our main employment is the casinos at Laughlin, which have laid off about half what they had 2 years ago.

I asked the family to bring me a Dollar Saver, a cheap/free paper for selling things and lots of folks who would do handy man and house work.

I found a few men, 2 women babysitters and no housework ads and no teens, looking for work.

I expected it to be chock full of ads.


8,983 posted on 06/17/2009 2:06:14 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Peach pie AND strawberry shortcake for dinner tonight. Talk about sugar overload!! >>>Twitter haven’t a clue how it works.<<< That makes two of us. Maybe some kind soul will give us a tutorial. I clicked on the URL and it looked interesting but the directions had me stumped.

>>> If you have peppermint<<< Many, many years ago,I had a fairly extensive herb garden, which among many other herbs contained spearmint and peppermint. The bed has been gone for many years with a lawn in its place, and when we built our new home loam was removed from this area and replaced when landscaping around our home. Now can you believe, we have peppermint and spearmint everywhere, although there had been no signs of it for many, many years. Such a delighful aroma when mowing the lawn!! I shall certainly try rubbing the peppermint on me as an insect repellant.


8,984 posted on 06/17/2009 3:16:50 PM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: nw_arizona_granny

It would be nice if Diana could find a job closer to you.
Honest to goodness, everyone I speak with is looking for a job. I have a 4th interview on Monday, myself. With all this back and forth, I think they should just go ahead and put me on the payroll already.

Will Diana be coming back anytime soon to cut your hair and tackle the list???

Many hugs.


8,985 posted on 06/17/2009 4:22:00 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: nw_arizona_granny

>>>Kingman, Az has always been a quite town and now we are having the same problems as a big city does, it is spreading.<<<

Well, our quiet area is about to get worse....

Just learned that State has approved 800 low income State supported housing units - apartments, condos and free standing homes to go into a town just 5 miles away. This will be on top of the 250 they built there about 10 years ago. Oh, the town population in 2000 - 3,174.......

Since there are not anywhere near enough to fill it, they plan to bring people from the city to occupy them. (now where do you suppose they would find jobs? - Of course they don’t plan to work - just hang on to that teat.)

What do you think that is going to do to local government in future elections? Yep - right down the drain!

Not looking forward to the triple increase of what we saw a decade ago in thefts, drugs, DWI’s, shootings, muggings, etc. when the first batch were built.

Can’t I volunteer to be a Chinese Muslim Terrorist too? Bermuda sounds pretty good about now.


8,986 posted on 06/17/2009 4:26:44 PM PDT by DelaWhere (Gardening: Lots of work, sweat and sore muscles - but Ooooooh the rewards! YUM!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Momaw Nadon; Mrs. Ranger; Squantos; wafflehouse; pbmaltzman; WKUHilltopper; ...

granny and DelaWhere have posted some extremely interseting links on the survival thread this past week. Worth a look.

Self Reliant/Survivalist ping list


8,987 posted on 06/17/2009 7:52:18 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: All

True Story.....

Luke AFB is west of Phoenix and is rapidly being surrounded by
civilization that complains about the noise from the base and its
planes, forgetting that it was there long before they were. A certain
lieutenant colonel at Luke AFB deserves a big pat on the back.
Apparently, an individual who lives somewhere near Luke AFB wrote the
local paper complaining about a group of F-16s that disturbed his/her
day at the mall.

When that individual read the response from a Luke AFB officer, it must
Have stung quite a bit.

The complaint:
‘Question of the day for Luke Air Force Base:

Whom do we thank for the morning air show? Last Wednesday, at precisely
9:11 A.M, a tight formation of four F-16 jets made a low pass over
Arrowhead Mall, continuing west over Bell Road at approximately 500
feet. Imagine our good fortune! Do the Tom Cruise-wannabes feel we
need this wake-up call, or were they trying to impress the cashiers at
Mervyns early bird special?

Any response would be appreciated.

The response:

Regarding ‘A
wake-up call from Luke’s jets’ On June 15, at precisely
9:12 a.m., a perfectly timed four- ship fly by of F-1 6s from the 63rd
Fighter Squadron at Luke Air Force Base flew over the grave of Capt.
Jeremy Fresques. Capt Fresques was an Air Force officer who was
previously stationed at Luke Air Force Base and was killed in Iraq on
May 30, Memorial Day.

At 9 a. m. on June 15, his family and friends gathered at Sunland
Memorial Park in Sun City to mourn the loss of a husband, son and
friend. Based on the letter writer’s recount of the fly by, and because
of the jet noise, I’m sure you didn’t hear the 21-gun salute, the
playing of taps, or my words to the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques
as I gave them their son’s flag on behalf of the President of the
United States and all those veterans and servicemen and women who
understand the sacrifices they have endured..

A four-ship fly by is a display of respect the Air Force gives to those
who give their lives in defense of freedom. We are professional
aviators and take our jobs seriously, and on June 15 what the letter
writer witnessed was four officers lining up to pay their ultimate
respects.

The letter writer asks, ‘Who m do we thank for the morning air show?
The 56th Fighter Wing will make the call for you, and forward your
thanks to the widow and parents of Capt Fresques, and thank them for
you, for it was in the
ir honor that my pilots flew the most honorable
formation of their lives.

Lt. Col. Grant L. Rosensteel, Jr.

USAF

..........

And remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die for
you, Jesus Christ

And the American Soldier

One died for your soul,

The other for your freedom.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/osint/


8,988 posted on 06/18/2009 5:08:35 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: upcountry miss

Now can you believe, we have peppermint and spearmint everywhere, although there had been no signs of it for many, many years. Such a delighful aroma when mowing the lawn!! I shall certainly try rubbing the peppermint on me as an insect repellant.<<<

What fun, even if it is in the wrong place.

They say that if you plant peppermint around your doorways and windows, it will cut down on flies and ants.

Try blocking the ants paths with branches of peppermint.

I know they will not cross a line on the floor that is sprayed with half vinegar, water and a few drops of peppermint.

Next time you are hot and miserable, like from forking manure and hay all day, treat yourself to a nice peppermint bath, boil a pot of it for 10 to 15 minutes and then strain it into the bath..........your whole body will feel good and it is a healer, inside and out..

Yes, I approve of two deserts for dinner.

LOL, reminds me of my daughter in law, one of the few times she ever complained about Scott to me, something was said about dinner and she kinda exploded “I don’t know why Scott has to have 2 vegetables at dinner!!”

That was easy, I always served two, as there were some that I didn’t like....LOL... and some that I did and Bill liked the ones that I did not.


8,989 posted on 06/18/2009 5:23:09 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Velveeta

Surely with 4 interviews, they see something they like.

Maybe it is a test to see if you will put out the extra effort and really want the job.

I don’t expect Diana again this year and it will depend on her job for next year.

She would never move to Arizona, she is not a fan of the desert and does not see any value in it.

Will be praying that you got the job and can get on with life in its real meaning, as in “get up, gotta go to work...”


8,990 posted on 06/18/2009 5:26:37 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Not looking forward to the triple increase of what we saw a decade ago in thefts, drugs, DWI’s, shootings, muggings, etc. when the first batch were built.<<<

That is sad, and find out who did this to you and work to get them fired..........or never elected again.

I do not understand why they will do this to nice neighborhoods and ruin them.

The Police do not enter the projects alone, too dangerous.

Amazing the makeup of your area change, no one will believe the change in voting.


8,991 posted on 06/18/2009 5:30:16 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: appleseed

Good morning, thanks for sending the pings.


8,992 posted on 06/18/2009 5:30:44 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All

Soap Crayons Recipe

Here’s a good one to make on a Saturday, rainy or not. They’re
great for the bathtub ~ children can practice writing their abc’s, words, or
just draw pictures; it’s all good! Since the crayons have to have
‘drying time’, pick another cool choice for later in the afternoon ~
maybe creative clay or creative bread dough. This is an easy, cheap, fun craft
that is actually usable! The kids will love making them AND using them in the
tub! You won’t have to threaten at bath time, that’s for sure!...
Prep:15m Servings:2

Ingredients
a.. 2 tablespoons water
b.. Ivory Flakes (You can buy this in the launder detergent aisle; you
don’t have to grate your own! ;o))
c.. Food coloring, your choices; be sure to blend some colors to teach /
reinforce blending to make new colors!

Directions
a.. Pour water into a measuring cup; as long as it’s at least 1 cup size,
you’re fine.
b.. Add soap flakes until you have a full cup.
c.. Mix the water and soap until you have a nice soapy paste, not too lumpy!
d.. Separate into small sections to make more colors.
e.. Add coloring of your choice and mix well. You want to use a fork or a
mini-whisk.
f.. To shape, pinch and roll into fat crayon-like shapes or press firmly into
plastic ice cube trays for tiny hands.
g.. Dry in a warm, dry place for a couple of days. The soap will be hard when
it’s ready.
h.. Use in bath tub for lots of fun ~ the kids will be begging to take baths!
i.. -—another good trick for practicing abc’s and drawing in the bathtub
is to give your little ones a can of shaving cream and watch ‘em go! This is
great, not just while the little ones are waiting for their soap crayons to dry,
but anytime. I suggest this all the time to parents of my emergent and early
readers at school for fun, clean practice! Enjoy!

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2. Fragrant Foot Bath

Posted by: “stephanief

Your Toes Will Thank You

At the end of a hard day’s work, there’s nothing quite like a fragrant foot bath. This is one of the luxuries of life anyone can enjoy. The basis for this herbal mixture is Epsom salt, originally discovered in the healing springs of Epsom, England. Epsom Feetsalt is available at most pharmacies and is good for soothing aching muscles, absorbing foot odors, and cleaning and softening the skin. Use this preparation as part of a pedicure or after a tough day.

1 cup dried rosemary
1/2 cup crushed bay leaves
3/4 cup dried garden sage or clary sage
1/2 cup dried lavender buds
1/2 cup dried rose petals or buds
1/4 cup dried mint
3 pounds Epsom salts (about 5 1/2 cups)

Combine the dried herbs and Epsom salt in a large airtight container and mix thoroughly. Leave the mixture undisturbed for about two weeks to allow the essence of the herbs to infuse the Epsom salt.

For a foot bath sachet put about 1/2 to 3/4 cups of the mixture on a 6”x6” square of muslin or a wash cloth. Gather the corners and tie firmly with a ribbon or rubber band. Toss in warm water and soak away your cares.

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3a. Clear Thinking Bath Salts
Posted by: “flynkat”

Clear Thinking Bath Salts

2 cup Epsom salts
1 cup Sea salt
10 drops blue food coloring
6 - 8 drops of peppermint essential oil
6 - 8 drops of rosemary essential oil
6 - 8 drops of lavender essential oil

In a large bowl mix salts first, then add the other ingredients slowly. MIX VERY WELL!


To visit group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Non-Edible-Recipes/


8,993 posted on 06/18/2009 5:54:47 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All

http://lii.org
A few of you have asked about the titles of the websites in this database. Folks, we call them as we see them. Very occasionally we’ll fudge a title when none is apparent; otherwise, what you see is what the website itself chose. With that in mind, don’t miss “Shorpy” and “Divedco,” whose titles mask some great art and photography.

[ THE BLURB ]

Utopia, bookmobiles, Linus Pauling, and getting the lead out are some of this week’s topics, plus Father’s Day (it’s this Sunday). A penultimate “bon appetit” from librarians Jennifer, Maria, Charlotte, and Wendy.


Arts and Humanities


America and the Utopian Dream
An introduction to American utopias “from the first Puritan settlements to the communes of the 1960s” as presented through literary works and manuscript collections. Features images of works and commentary for utopian literature such as “Das Kapital” and “Erewon,” dystopian literature such as “Brave New World” and “1984,” and material on utopian communities such as the Shakers, Brook Farm, Oneida, and Halycon, California. From the Yale University Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library.
URL: http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/utopia/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/27437


American Bookbinders Museum
Information from this San Francisco museum dedicated to the art of bookbinding in the U.S. Its site features images and information about printing presses and other printing equipment (such as stampers, a glue machine, and a stapler), information about dozens of historical bookbinders, examples of endpapers, and descriptions of selected publications in the museum collection.
URL: http://www.bookbindersmuseum.com/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28261


Ornament and Pattern: Pre-Victorian to Art Deco
“Several thousand images from nearly 100 volumes on decorative art and surface ornament, mainly portfolios of plates, pattern books, and scrapbook compilations.” Find images of flowers, animals, butterflies, house colors, ceramics, and more. Many images are from French publications. From the New York Public Library (NYPL).
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LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/27732


Shorpy
This site “is a vintage photography blog featuring thousands of high-definition images from the 1850s to 1950s. The site is named after Shorpy Higginbotham, a teenage coal miner who lived 100 years ago.” Most of the photos on the site “were extracted from reference images ... from the Library of Congress research archive,” with others from the personal files of contributors. Includes three photos of Shorpy.
URL: http://www.shorpy.com/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/27069


Sol LeWitt: A Wall Drawing Retrospective
Companion website to this exhibition that “comprises 105 of LeWitt’s large-scale wall drawings, spanning the artist’s career from 1969 to 2007. These occupy nearly an acre of specially built interior walls that have been installed ... over three stories of a historic mill building situated at the heart of MASS MoCA’s campus.” View the drawings by grid or floorplan, watch timelapses of creating selected drawings, and listen to an audio tour. From MASS MoCA.
URL: http://www.massmoca.org/lewitt/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/27243



Business


Lead-Free Wheels
Background on this program that promotes alternatives to lead wheel weights, which “are used worldwide to balance vehicle tires.” It notes that many of the wheel weights fall off and abrade into lead dust, “and increase the risk that lead will contaminate surface, groundwater, and drinking water supplies.” Provides information about alternatives (such as zinc), listing of U.S. distributors of lead-free wheel weights, and a wheel-balancing fact sheet. From the Ecology Center.
URL: http://www.leadfreewheels.org/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28380


National Lead Free Wheel Weight Initiative (NLFWWI)
This initiative “encourages the transition from the use of lead for wheel weights to lead-free alternatives. Wheel weights are clipped to the rims of every automobile wheel in the United States in order to balance the tires. These weights often come loose and fall off,” ending up in waterways or landfills. Provides quick facts and reasons for transitioning to lead-free wheel weights (such as reducing toxic lead exposure). From the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).
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LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28381



Government


Data.gov
The purpose of this website “is to increase public access to high value, machine readable datasets generated by the Executive Branch of the Federal Government.” Search the raw data catalog by category (such as energy or population) or federal agency to obtain machine-readable, platform-independent data sets. Also includes links to tools for mining data sets, a tutorial, and a form for suggesting additional data sets.
URL: http://www.data.gov/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28368



People


Linus Pauling Online
Collection of resources on Linus Pauling (1901-1994), “the only recipient of two unshared Nobel Prizes, (Chemistry, 1954; Peace, 1962) [who] undertook a wide range of studies during his seventy-year career as a scientist, humanitarian and peace activist.” Features online exhibitions focusing on Pauling’s research (blood, quantum mechanics, and DNA) and his work in the peace movement. Also includes a timeline, blog, and other material on Pauling. From Oregon State University Libraries Special Collections.
URL: http://pauling.library.oregonstate.edu/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28303



Recreation


Summer Sailstice
Website for this “global holiday [created in 2001] celebrating sailing held annually on the summer solstice, the longest sailing days of the year.” Find a listing of events from around the world, details about featured events (such as sailing on Casco Bay by the Maine Hunter Sailing Association and an event on Treasure Island in the San Francisco Bay), stories of sailstice experiences back to 2003, and links to sailing websites and blogs.
URL: http://summersailstice.com/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28386



Regions of the World


Divedco
This exhibition “is about posters from the Division of Community Education (DIVEDCO) of Puerto Rico [government] dating from 1949 to 1989. ... DIVEDCO was a social experiment which mirrored several of President Roosevelt’s New Deal Programs.” Features a gallery of posters, exhibition brochure, and educational materials. In English and Spanish. From the Smithsonian Latino Center.
URL: http://latino.si.edu/DIVEDCO/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28102



Science


Extreme Mammals
Companion to a 2009 exhibition that “examines the ancestry and evolution of numerous species, ranging from huge to tiny, from speedy to sloth-like, and displays animals with oversized claws, fangs, snouts, and horns.” Features articles, stories, fun facts, photos, video clips, interactive features, classroom resources, and related material about “the biggest, smallest, and most amazing mammals of all time.” From the American Museum of Natural History.
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LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28344


Google PowerMeter
Background about this tool that “shows consumers their electricity consumption in a secure Google gadget.” As of summer 2009, Google is “testing the product with utility partners in the US, India and Canada” and has plans for expansion. Find videos, links to articles and reports, policy statements and testimony, a FAQ, listing of partners, and energy saving tips. From Google.
URL: http://www.google.org/powermeter/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/27968



Society & Social Science


Angus Reid Global Monitor
This site provides results from over 20,000 market research and public consultation polls from around the world. Includes global opinion polls such as on same-sex marriage in the U.S., political polls on topics such as “Obama’s Honeymoon,” and an election tracker (featuring a list of recent and upcoming elections). Also search, or browse by issues, such as Afghanistan, Iraq War, North Korea, stem cell research, and terrorism. Poll results go back to 2003.
URL: http://www.angus-reid.com/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28093


Bookmobile: Past. Present. Future.
This presentation recounts the history of the Tulsa (Oklahoma) City-County Library’s bookmobile, from its beginnings in 1930 to the present. A series of publications features historical photos, news clippings, memories from “bookmobile kids,” and selected children’s drawings from a 2008 “bookmobile of the future” art contest. Also includes video clips. From Tulsa City-County Library.
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LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28354


Father’s Day
Collection of material about Father’s Day. Topics include a brief history of this holiday (which was not instituted as a national observance until 1972), famous TV dads, fun facts, video clips, and photos of famous dads such as Paul McCartney, Elvis Presley, Jackie Robinson, and Muhammad Ali. From the History Channel.
URL: http://www.history.com/minisites/fathersday/
LII Item: http://lii.org/cs/lii/view/item/28263



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8,994 posted on 06/18/2009 6:10:52 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: appleseed

“granny and DelaWhere have posted some extremely interseting links on the survival thread this past week. Worth a look.”

Well I’m trying to keep up, but this is our normal “busy season” (g) with the added pressure of back and forth trips.
(Rising gas prices are *not* helping, but “it figures” ;)

We’re trying to figure out what we can take now, (we never make an empty trip :) as opposed to what we will still need here for awhile. For example: Seeds and starting equipment can go; canning supplies need to stay. :)

Anyway, I apologise for appearing to have “gone away”. I’m here, as time permits, reading along, just usually too pooped to post. (g)

To granny: Again thanks for being the “glue” that holds this list together. I gain weight just reading your recipes and your helpful hints remind me of just how much I’ve forgotten over the years. :) If I’m right, and you don’t know how much I pray I’m wrong, we’re gonna need every bit of that knowledge in the not too distant future. :(

To delawhere: Yes, I spent many a fun time at Jackson’s Mill, a lifetime ago. ;) When were you there? We may even have met once upon a time, or at least passed each other in the dining hall. (boy howdy, those ladies could cook! :)

To appleseed: yes, I’m reading the pings you send and I can’t tell you how much I appreciate them, as the “responses” on those threads are quite illuminating. ;)

In general: Sure enough, I went “down home” and found the trees I want at a small nursery (right in the middle of town, no less :) at less than half the price I was quoted up here. ;) We’re going down again this weekend and if I get a chance I’ll get them then. OTOH, I keep forgetting I’m not as young as I used to be and usually plan to do much more than I actually get done. :)

The garden is coming along, but it’s been a rather cool and wet May/June and I’m behind on the weeding as it’s tough to get a dry couple of days in a row. :) Not to mention being “gone” half the time when it is dry enough. ;) I’m sure glad I cut back on what I planted as it’s going to be job just to keep up with this much.

How long we’ve got here still continues to be the big question, but at last my husband is coming to realize that it may not be as long as he’d hoped. The parallels between the new management and what’s happening in the national govt. are astounding to us, but we don’t have the time to peruse the cause. Whether it’s some sort of “master plan” or just colossal ignorance from generations of “dumbing down” is irrelevant at this point. The outcome will be the same. :(

In the meantime, thanks to all who have the time and wherewithall to post here. You’re doing good work here. :

Again, if I’ve forgotten to address anyone personally, please forgive me as “my mind is mush” these days. :)


8,995 posted on 06/18/2009 7:14:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Ranger (lamenting the death of "common sense")
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To: All

This message contains the following:

1. Wagner Spray Tech Recalls Heat Guns Due to Fire and Burn Hazards http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09243.html

2. Campbell Hausfeld Recalls Air Compressors Due to Fire Hazard; Sold Exclusively at Wal-Mart http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09245.html

3. Macy’s Recalls Children’s Hooded Sweatshirts Due to Strangulation Hazard http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09246.html

4. Children’s Necklace and Bracelet Sets Recalled by D&D Distributing-Wholesale Due To Choking Hazard http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09247.html


8,996 posted on 06/18/2009 8:30:30 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; DelaWhere; All
I finally found the answer to the terminology when ordering grains at Walton Feed:::

RB is a 6 gallon heavy plastic bucket packed with an oxygen absorber. This removes oxygen, leaving nitrogen. Bucket is sealed with a silicone, ringed lid to ensure an airtight seal.

SP is a 6 gallon heavy plastic bucket with a metalized non-porous bag. The bag is filled with product and oxygen absorbers to remove oxygen leaving nitrogen. The bag is heat sealed, the bucket is sealed with a silicone ringed lid. This bag prevents light or moisture from the product.

Now we know!

Get busy... their orders are at least 2 weeks behind at this point, which means they are getting slammed with orders!

8,997 posted on 06/18/2009 11:56:14 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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>>>forking hay and manure all day>>> LOL Have you been following me around? Much better than housework. Any outside chore beats that.

Post 8988- Beautiful!!! The last paragraph brought tears to my eyes. Sooo true. Wish the left-wingers believed and respected that sentiment.


8,998 posted on 06/18/2009 3:33:58 PM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: nw_arizona_granny; ExSoldier; Momaw Nadon; Mrs. Ranger; Squantos; wafflehouse; pbmaltzman; ...

ExSoldier has a way of finding some good stuff. He sent this link for http://www.shomer-tec.com/index.cfm it has a lot of good stuff. Impact weapons, militay manuals, spy products, lock gadgets, survival stuff, etc. I’m not sure about the rest of the prices, but I know the pro-lockpicking set is a good price.


8,999 posted on 06/18/2009 5:12:03 PM PDT by appleseed
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Thanks for the update. Dang, doesn’t sound like there’s enough hours in the day for all that you do.


9,000 posted on 06/18/2009 5:18:58 PM PDT by appleseed
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