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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: All; metmom; Calpernia

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7,221 posted on 04/30/2009 1:05:45 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
"" Omeish? "" DAMN! The Terrorists are trying to infiltrate all of America
through our own political system. Let us not lax, or make laws,
but inform Americans what is happening, and what will happen.

Just Damn!

7,222 posted on 04/30/2009 1:28:08 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: metmom

That’s more like it.....<<<

Yes, it looks as tho we have a world pandemic on the table.

I posted the promed world report in 7220.


7,223 posted on 04/30/2009 1:51:25 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: MaxMax

“” Omeish? “” DAMN! The Terrorists are trying to infiltrate all of America
through our own political system.<<<

Yes, they have had an agenda/manifesto for years, using our laws against us is one of the plans, also getting elected.

It was the “2005 Plan”, then the “2010 Plan” and now there is a “2015 Plan”, but they want to do it yesterday and they are doing a good job of taking over, getting their holidays observed and ours tossed out.

The muslim and communist plans are mirror images, all with a goal of taking over.

When I started the first survival thread, I did not think we needed to post the takeover/terrorist news, today I feel I must for anything that they do or promise to any country in the world, they plan on doing here.

The curses are usually made to “America and her allies”.

Stay safe my friend.


7,224 posted on 04/30/2009 1:57:43 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

One school and one Day Care closed in this small Maine town due to outbreak of Swine Flu! Scary, I never suspected it would be within a mile of me this soon.


7,225 posted on 04/30/2009 4:02:55 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: upcountry miss

And even little Delaware has 10 suspected cases at U of D.


7,226 posted on 04/30/2009 4:19:34 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: DelaWhere

One daughter is a literary specialist and works one on one with children all day and two other daughters work as receptionists at the local hospital! They are telling me and their father to stay out of stores and I am telling them to leave all germs at work!!


7,227 posted on 04/30/2009 4:26:47 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: upcountry miss

Don’t know what a literary specialist is. Should be literacy specialist. LOL Guess I should be one of her students.


7,228 posted on 04/30/2009 4:29:30 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

>>>It’s very common in Arizona and California, and I would imagine Utah, Nevada and New Mexico. <<<

Yep, I learned that as I flew down in that area. But 40 years ago, I had never heard of it...


7,229 posted on 04/30/2009 5:39:18 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; MHGinTN

“Do people still buy coffee in metal cans? “

I buy some in plastic, but I can still get coffee in metal cans. Depends what’s on sale.

I’ve used the metal cans to make emergency kits for our cars in the winter. Include a candle,matches, snack bars, tea bags, bullion cubes, etc. If needed, snow can be put in the can and heated with the candle. Warm drinks made with the water. My kids laugh at me when I’ve given them one for their car when traveling in the winter, but gracious enough to humor me and accept them without too much fuss. Even with cell phones, and well traveled roads, I still read of the occasional incident when people get stranded. It’s such a small container and may provide life saving items should they be needed.


7,230 posted on 04/30/2009 7:20:01 AM PDT by Marmolade
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To: Marmolade

The kits are a great idea!


7,231 posted on 04/30/2009 8:40:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Marmolade

The brand my family prefers is still in a metal can and usually is among the least expensive. I really like your emergency kit idea and will be making up one for my car.


7,232 posted on 04/30/2009 8:46:25 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: All

http://www.forensicmag.com/News_Print.asp?pid=527
http://www.forensicmag.com/News_Print.asp?pid=527

Biological Terrorism: Recommended Protection for First Responders

By The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health

The approach to any potentially hazardous environment, including one with
biological hazards, must be made with a plan that includes an assessment of
hazard and exposure potential, respiratory protection needs, dermal
protection needs, entry conditions, exit routes, and decontamination
strategies. Plans involving a biological hazard should be based on relevant
infectious disease or biological safety recommendations by the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention (e.g.,

http://emergency.cdc.gov/bioterrorism
and other expert bodies including emergency first responders, law
enforcement, and public health officials. The need for pre/post exposure
treatment of first responders with antibiotics, vaccination, or other
medications should be determined in consultation with licensed medical
personnel.

This document is based on current understanding of the potential agents and
existing recommendations for biological aerosols and is oriented toward acts
of terrorism. The recommendations provided here do not address and are not
applicable to controlled use of biological agents in biosafety laboratories.
For information on precautions in laboratory settings, please consult
http://www.cdc.gov/od/ohs/biosfty/biosfty.htm.

NIOSH is providing the
recommendations in this document on the basis of the following
considerations:

* Biological weapons may expose workers to bacteria, viruses, or toxins as
fine airborne particles. Biological agents are infectious through one or
more of the following mechanisms of exposure, depending upon the particular
type of agent:

(1) inhalation, with infection through respiratory mucosa or
lung tissues;
(2) ingestion;
(3) contact with the mucous membranes of the
eyes or nasal tissues; or
(4) penetration of the skin through lesions or
abrasions.

* Biological agents, as liquid or solid organic airborne particles, behave
the same in the air as inert or inorganic particles because they share the
same aerodynamic characteristics.

* Because biological weapons are particles, they will not permeate the
materials used in the construction of respirators or protective clothing in
the same way that some chemicals can permeate through them. However,
biological particles can potentially penetrate through seams, closures,
interfaces, pores, and gaps in protective apparel. Careful attention to
properly selected, assembled, and fitted personal protective equipment (PPE)
is essential to ensuring necessary protection for first responders.

* Some devices used for intentional biological terrorism may have the
capacity to disseminate large quantities of biological materials in
aerosols.

High levels of protection (i.e., level A ensembles) will be
necessary when hazards and airborne concentrations are either unknown or
expected to be high.

PPE providing lower levels of protection (i.e., level B
or C ensembles) are generally allowed once conditions are understood and
exposure is determined to be at lower levels.

* Chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN) NIOSH-approved
respirators in conjunction with protective ensembles certified to National
Fire Protection Association (NFPA) standards are recommended for responders
in situations where the hazard potential from a potential terrorist event
exists. Respirators and protective ensembles certified for CBRN-rated
protection have been evaluated with warfare agents for resistance against
permeation and penetration of the materials used in their construction
(e.g., rubber, elastomeric, barrier, and selectively permeable materials).

CBRN respirators provide a high level of protection against airborne hazards
when properly fitted to the user’s face and properly used in an Occupational
Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)-compliant respiratory protection
program
http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_id=12716&p_table=standards

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_id=12716&p_table=st
andards

* During an intentional release of a biological agent, a concurrent or
secondary release of other types of hazards, such as a chemical, may occur.

Therefore, when selecting appropriate levels of PPE, information regarding
potential of exposures to non-biological hazards should be factored in to
any selection decisions.

Guidance and Standards Associated with the Selection and Use of Protective
Clothing and Respirators

Respiratory protection and other PPE should be used in the context of a
comprehensive program or incident command system that provides for a safety
and health program.

The program should contain the following elements:

* Job safety analyses and a health and safety plan.

* Provision for a health/safety surveillance and medical monitoring program
(on-site medical monitoring for fatigue, heat stress, behavioral health, and
other elements as appropriate.)

* Pre-exposure immunization and post-exposure responder prophylaxis and
medical monitoring.

When using respiratory protection, the type of respirator is selected on the
basis of the hazard and its airborne concentration.

Recommendations for
selection of respirators can be found in the NIOSH Respirator Selection
Logic 2004 [DHHS (NIOSH) Publication No. 2005-100]

(http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2005-100/default.html).

Additionally,
guidance specific for CBRN incidents can be found in the NIOSH document
Guidance on Emergency Responder Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) for
Response to CBRN Terrorism Incidents [DHHS (NIOSH) Publication No. 2008-132]
at

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2008-132/pdfs/2008-132.pdf

For a biological agent, the air concentration of particles will depend upon
the method used to release the agent, the initial amount of agent in the
dispersal device, the particle size (very small particles will remain
suspended in the air for prolonged periods, while large particles fall more
quickly out of the air), and the elapsed time since the release. Secondary
re-aerosolization generated from disturbing the contaminated area may
contribute to an increase in particle concentration in the air.

NIOSH-approved CBRN self-contained breathing apparatus (SCBA), which many
first responders currently use for entry into potentially hazardous
atmospheres, will provide responders with respiratory protection against
biological exposures associated with a suspected act of biological
terrorism. When site concentrations allow for the use of lower levels of
protection, NIOSH-approved CBRN full facepiece air-purifying respirators
(APRs) or CBRN full facepiece powered air-purifying respirators (PAPRs) may
be used.

Protective clothing, including garments, gloves and booties, also are
necessary for the response to a suspected act of biological terrorism to
reduce exposures to potential dermal, chemical, and physical hazards.

Protective clothing must have physical performance properties adequate for
the mission (e.g. tensile strength, puncture resistance, seam breaking
strength, abrasion resistance). Protective clothing is used to prevent skin
exposures and/or contamination of other clothing. The type of protective
clothing needed will depend upon the biological agent, concentration, route
of exposure, and anticipated work operations.

NFPA 1994 Standard on Protective Ensembles for First Responders to CBRN
Terrorism Incidents (2007 Edition), NFPA 1991 Standard on Vapor Protective
Ensembles for Hazardous Materials Emergencies (1995 Edition), NFPA 1999
Standard on Protective Clothing for Emergency Medical Operations (2008
Edition) are nationally accepted and Department of Homeland Security
(DHS)-adopted performance standards. Protective clothing ensembles certified
to these standards should be the first choice when selecting protective
clothing for protection against biological agents. Ensembles certified by
these standards may be used to meet the applicable level of protection
(i.e., A, B, C, and D) outlined by OSHA in the Hazardous Waste Operations
and Emergency Response (HAZWOPER) standard, Appendix B. There are also other
protective ensembles and clothing items that meet OSHA’s specifications
available on the market that will provide protection to biological agents.
Detailed information on the NFPA standards in relationship to CBRN terrorism
events can be found at

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2008-132/pdfs/2008-132.pdf

NFPA 1999 Standard on Protective Clothing for Emergency Medical Operations,
2008 Edition specifies design, performance and certification requirements
for protective clothing, including garments, helmets, gloves, footwear, and
face protection devices used by emergency medical responders and medical
first receivers. This standard includes requirements for a multi-use
emergency medical protective ensemble providing minimum protection for upper
and lower torso, head, hands, foot and face protection from only biological
agents. Protective ensembles certified to requirements in NFPA 1999 should
be considered for protection against biological agents.

Recommendations for the Selection and Use of Protective Clothing and
Respirators Against Biological Agents Resulting from a Suspected or Known
Terrorism Event

The recommendations for personal protective equipment, including respiratory
protection and protective clothing, are based upon the anticipated level of
exposure risk associated with different response situations, as follows:

* Responders should use a NIOSH-approved, CBRN SCBA in conjunction with a
Level A, protective ensemble (use equipment certified to NFPA 1991 when
available as a first choice) in responding to a suspected biological
incident where any of the following information is unknown or the event is
uncontrolled:

o The type(s) of airborne agent(s);
o The dissemination method(s);
o If dissemination via an aerosol-generating device still is occurring, or
it has stopped but there is no information on the duration of dissemination
or what the exposure concentration might be;
o Other conditions may present a vapor or splash hazard.

* Responders may use a Level B protective ensemble (use equipment certified
to NFPA 1994 Class 2, NFPA 1992, or NFPA 1971 CBRN protective ensembles when
available as a first choice) with an exposed or enclosed NIOSH-certified
CBRN SCBA if the situation can be defined in which:

o The suspected biological aerosol is no longer being generated;
o Other conditions may present additional hazards, such as a splash hazard.

(Note: NFPA 1994 Class 4 does not have a requirement to provide limited
protection against liquid or chemical hazards).

* Responders may use a level C protective ensemble (use equipment certified
to NFPA 1994 class 3 or 4 or certified as NFPA 1999 protective ensemble when
available as a first choice) with a CBRN full facepiece APR or CBRN full
facepiece powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) when it can be determined
that:

o The suspected biological aerosol is no longer being generated;
o The biological agent and hazard level have been defined;
o Dissemination was by a letter or package that can be easily bagged.

When a risk assessment has been conducted by qualified safety and health
experts, responders may use alternate PPE, including non-CBRN level C
protective ensembles with a full facepiece particulate respirator (N100 or
P100 filters) or PAPR with high efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filters,
in conjunction with disposable hooded coveralls, gloves, and foot coverings
as appropriate.

In certain specialized situations, half-mask filtering facepiece respirators
in conjunction with reduced levels of dermal protection may be considered,
but it should be recognized that this level of PPE may not provide
sufficient exposure reduction for many situations. Several parameters must
be assessed when making a decision to downgrade the ensemble. These include
knowledge of the source and extent of contamination, the level of
uncertainty in the risk assessment, specific activities to be conducted,
investigator experience, contingency/backup plans, length of time in the
contaminated area, provision for immunization and post-exposure prophylaxis,
etc. A decision of this nature should be carefully evaluated and made by
industrial hygiene, safety, and medical personnel in conjunction with the
incident commander and other appropriate public health authorities.

NIOSH recommends against wearing standard firefighter turnout gear into
potentially contaminated areas when responding to reports of terrorist
activities involving biological agents, provided there are no other hazards
that would require turnout gear.

Proper decontamination of protective equipment and clothing will ensure that
any particles that might have settled on the outside of protective equipment
are removed before taking off gear. Decontamination sequences currently used
for hazardous material emergencies should be used as appropriate for the
level of protection employed and agent encountered. For example, PPE can be
decontaminated using soap and water, and 0.5% hypochlorite solution (one
part household bleach to 10 parts water) with an appropriate contact time
can be used. Note that bleach may damage some types of firefighter turnout
gear (one reason why it should not be used for biological agent response
actions). After taking off gear, response workers should shower using
copious quantities of soap and water. Bleach should not be used to
decontaminate response workers. Note that all NFPA 1994 ensembles are
intended to be disposable after a single exposure use.

SOURCE: The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health,
Recommendations for

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2009-132/default.html

the Selection and Use of Respirators and Protective Clothing for Protection
Against Biological Agents


7,233 posted on 04/30/2009 9:09:59 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: upcountry miss

Scary, I never suspected it would be within a mile of me this soon.<<<<

It is becoming a nightmare, if this is not real and is only another version of flu, it has shown us how fast a real serious disease could travel.

It is one thing to know it can spread and another to watch it do so.

Stay safe and do be careful.


7,234 posted on 04/30/2009 9:16:39 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Marmolade

Survival kits from the coffee cans is an excellent idea, and I would bet that you could use the shiny insides to reflect light for signaling.

For me, I store all kinds of things in them.

If it is rice, beans, etc, I add a couple of bay leaves and lay a sandwich bag on the top, then put on the lid..

The flat sandwich bag seems to add the bulk to seal the lid tight and keeps out anything wanting in.


7,235 posted on 04/30/2009 9:21:07 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All; milford421

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518450,00.html

Four Dead After Car Careens Into Crowd at Dutch Royal Motorcade

Thursday, April 30, 2009

AP

April 30: A car rams into spectators in Apeldoorn, Netherlands.

At least four people are reported to have been killed and several hurt in the Netherlands after a car careened into spectators watching a royal motorcade Thursday.

A photographer said the car appeared to be deliberately driving at high speed toward an open bus carrying Queen Beatrixand her family in the western Dutch city of Apeldoorn.

Prosecutors said they believe the incident was deliberate, but not an act of terrorism. They did not indicate a motive or say why the popular queen might have been a target. The driver was a 38-year-old white Dutch male with no police record or history of mental illness, police said. They would not give his name.

continued, adults and children dead.


7,236 posted on 04/30/2009 9:52:05 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; DelaWhere; CottonBall; TenthAmendmentChampion; All

Hello and hope all are ok and preparing.

This may have already been listed so please forgive..

the pdf is 97 pages but with hi-speed no problem..

What the Government Plans to do if the Pandemic Gets Worse

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2239570/posts

wow!


7,237 posted on 04/30/2009 11:16:17 AM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: All

http://www.fda.gov/cvm/CVM_Updates/BSEUpdate043009.htm

CVM Update
<<Back

April 30, 2009

FDA Issues Final Guidance for Renderers on Substances Prohibited From Use in Animal Food or Feed

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today issued a final guidance document, “Small Entities Compliance Guide for Renderers – Substances Prohibited from use in Animal Food or Feed,” to provide guidance on the requirements of the final rule published in the Federal Register of April 25, 2008. This rule will further protect consumers against bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), otherwise known as ‘mad cow disease.’

The purpose of the guidance document is to help rendering firms comply with the rule that became effective April 27, 2009. The guidance should also help slaughter facilities and farms supplying offal and dead livestock to the renderers understand their obligations under the rule. A copy of the final guidance can be found at http://www.fda.gov/cvm/Guidance/guide195.pdf.

The added measure of excluding high-risk materials from all animal feeds addresses risks associated with accidental feeding of such material to cattle, which could occur through cross-contamination of ruminant feed with non-ruminant feed or feed ingredients during manufacture and transport, or through misfeeding of non-ruminant feed to ruminants on the farm.

Comments on this guidance may be submitted any time to the Division of Dockets Management (HFA-305), Food and Drug Administration, 5630 Fishers Lane, Room 1061, Rockville, MD 20852. Comments may also be submitted electronically at http://www.regulations.gov. All written comments should be identified with Docket No. FDA-2008-D-0597.

For additional information on BSE and the final rule, please see: http://www.fda.gov/cvm/bsetoc.html.

For questions regarding this final document, please contact Shannon Jordre at FDA’s Center for Veterinary Medicine, 240-276-9229, shannon.jordre@fda.hhs.gov.

Issued by:
FDA, Center for Veterinary Medicine,
Communications Staff, HFV-12
7519 Standish Place, Rockville, MD 20855
Telephone: (240) 276-9300 FAX: (240) 276-9115
Internet Web Site: http://www.fda.gov/cvm
Web page updated by hd - April 30, 2009, 11:01 AM ET


7,238 posted on 04/30/2009 1:03:57 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Biden may have let the cat out of the bag !


7,239 posted on 04/30/2009 1:17:18 PM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: Eagle50AE

Thanks for the link, I can’t download today, internet is off and on.

Should be the report that I read a couple years ago, martial law and all.


7,240 posted on 04/30/2009 1:19:20 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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