Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]

May 05th,2008

[nw_arizona_granny]

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood

[metmom]

Terrific......

[CottonBall]

Years ago, if you didn’t turn your house upside down every spring, emptying closets, kichen cupboards, washing curtains and shampooing rugs, you were an indifferent housekeeper to put it kindly.

:) I've always been an indifferent housekeeper then. That's a much nicer term that I would've used, however! I actually vacuumed today and am pretty proud of myself.

[nw_arizona_granny]

I thought of your disdain of wasted space that could be used for veggies and decided that a root crop would thrive in all that loose viable soil and have planted beets, radishes, parsnips and carrots there instead of my flowers. Later after last frost date, I will plant tomatoes and zucchini there also.<<<

My sister calls her flowers “soul food”, and I also admit the soul needs a few bright colors and healing at times with beauty.

There will be more bees in the garden with the right flowers, so mix a few in and along the borders.

LOL, you might guess that I drive a traditional farmer insane, with my mixed planting, weed that I like to eat and crooked rows.

Bill quit helping lay out my garden rows, when I objected to his perfect straight rows, that took more time to get straight, then it did to dig and plant.

He couldn’t deal with crooked rows, or my “contour plantings”, but had no problem eating the results.

I am so glad that you are planting, that is the main goal.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Howdy, ucm. I was wondering what the term ‘spring cleaning’ meant to - after reading Wneighbor’s post - and I guess it’s from people having fires all winter.<<<

Yes on the cleaning part of spring cleaning and there was a time that we took down the heavy winter drapes and put up light and lacy curtains.

Put away the quilts and got out the summer blankets.

Same with clothing, stored the furs and heavy coats and got out the light summer clothing.

We did not wear white shoes or use white gloves before Easter and went back to dark and heavy on Labor Day.

Winter hats were felt and summer were straw.

No lady, even the lower class went out without a hat, gloves, shoes and purse that matched and matched her dress.

Today, they wear getups to church, that I would not have worn out in public when I was a young wife.

We wore cocktail dresses at night, with shoes that were high heeled and sexy and our dresses were sexy, cut to fit our curves, not to make us look like a young boy.

We made an effort to be feminine and not look like a man, the burn the bra crowd has their roots in the communist manifesto, it is under “ruin the family unit and make the state the most important”, so they killed our motherhood and wifehood.

I always worked in the field as hard as any man, but when it was time to be a woman, I wanted to look like one and act like one.......LOL, I still expect men to open the door for me.

I have had men tell me that they have been cussed out by women that they opened the door for, said “they could do it for themselves”, foolish women if you ask me.

Enough already, LOL, spring cleaning, also includes repotting the house plants.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Unusually, said the CDC’s Nancy Cox, the viruses all appear to carry
genes from swine flu, avian flu, and human flu viruses from North
America, Europe and Asia. “We haven’t seen this strain before, but we
hadn’t been looking as intensively as we have,” Schuchat said. “It’s
very possible that this is something new that hasn’t been happening
before.” Surveillance for and scrutiny of influenza has been stepped
up since 2003, when highly pathogenic H5N1 avian influenza reappeared
in Asia.<<<<

Those mixed genes are what scare me, I don’t like mixed diseases....

[nw_arizona_granny]

Thanks for reading the thread, you are welcome to join in any time you like.

[CottonBall]

Awww, the good ol' days. I remember vaguely the part about not wearing white before Easter. There were a lot of unwritten 'rules' that addes structure to life and more importantly, to families.

I agree 110% on the feminazi movement making men irrelevant and letting the government play that role - and ruining children's lives as a consequence. I can count on one hand the number of mothers in my neighborhood that are raising their kids. Most are working, even though their husbands earn plenty, and the kids are home alone for a lot of the time. The 'lucky' ones are young enough that the parents pay someone to watch out for them.

The kids don't get a parent, but the parents have a fancy house, lots of cars, and lots of toys. As a society, IMO, we've made the unimportant important and vice versa.

[upcountry miss]

Never fear, as long as I can garden, I will have loads and loads of flowers. My heirloom bleeding heart, peonies and old fashioned tea roses have all been handed down for over 100 years and today I helped my daughter plant some of each, so they will continue for at least another generation.

Speaking of weeds that you like to eat, today I picked cow slips and in another couple of weeks, I will be picking fiddle head and dandelion greens. How my grandmother loved those first greens of the spring.

[nw_arizona_granny]

I can count on one hand the number of mothers in my neighborhood that are raising their kids. Most are working, even though their husbands earn plenty, and the kids are home alone for a lot of the time. The ‘lucky’ ones are young enough that the parents pay someone to watch out for them.<<<

We used to call that “keeping up with the joneses”, today I call it “brainwashed by the tv”.

I sit here in a rage, when the ads come on the radio, that show the man as stupid and the woman as so smart, that she really does not need him.

Yes, the kids have lost out, more than anyone else.

What is wrong today, is a lack of role models, men are stupid, cops are evil, teachers stupid and the preachers are demons, how well the communists carried out their brainwashing.

Google for russia brainwashing

They perfected it, we only copied.

Next time you turn on the tv, take a look at the pattern of speaking, the sounds are jerky and the blinking lights, all good brainwashing tools, and also good for keeping folks revved up, so they need a pill to calm down.

LOL, it has been several years since I looked at a tv, but I watched it become what it is today, makes me think that I need to be on a drug, to even watch it.

So many families have tossed out God, so there is not a reason to fear going to hell and now the youths can do anything they want ....

[nw_arizona_granny]

My heirloom bleeding heart, peonies and old fashioned tea roses have all been handed down for over 100 years and today I helped my daughter plant some of each, so they will continue for at least another generation.

Speaking of weeds that you like to eat, today I picked cow slips and in another couple of weeks, I will be picking fiddle head and dandelion greens. How my grandmother loved those first greens of the spring.<<<

Wonderful, I am so glad that you were able to help plant the flowers in your daughter’s garden.

The old herbal books called those first weeds a spring tonic,
said they were needed to balance ones system, after the months of heavy stored foods.

[CottonBall]

I sit here in a rage, when the ads come on the radio, that show the man as stupid and the woman as so smart, that she really does not need him.

Aren't those commercials (and TV shows too) ridiculous? They lampoon men at every turn. Don't the men that work in Hollywood notice this? And they also make the unmarried mother into some kind of hero - instead of portraying her as irresponsible and self-centered, as many are.

What is wrong today, is a lack of role models, men are stupid, cops are evil, teachers stupid and the preachers are demons, how well the communists carried out their brainwashing.

Well, there ARE some role models. Immoral Hollywood types, drugged out athletes, and of course, Obama. Yech.

Next time you turn on the tv, take a look at the pattern of speaking, the sounds are jerky and the blinking lights, all good brainwashing tools, and also good for keeping folks revved up, so they need a pill to calm down.

I like watching the old shows on TV land. They were full of content and acting, not the crap that's on today. Such a difference! And the shows from the 60s run about 52 minutes, while the shows from the 70s run about 47. Today, we 'might' get 40 minutes without a commercial! (I bought some Perry Mason and Waltons DVDs and checked the playing time on the episodes).

The banners running across most TV shows and the little people in the corners of the screens jumping up and down make me crazy. Even in news shows, when the anchor is speaking - there is typically yet another headline going across the screen. That's just too much to have to take in when 'relaxing' in front of the tube. And we wonder why our kids can't settle down and pay attention! ADD drugs are handed out freely - we should just eliminate all the distractions that create the problem. That would include those TVs too, wouldn't it? ;)

[nw_arizona_granny]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2237216/posts

CDC says too late to contain U.S. flu outbreak
Reuters ^ | 4/24/09

Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 2:42:42 PM by Crazieman

WASHINGTON, April 24 (Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Friday it was too late to contain the swine flu outbreak in the United States.

CDC acting director Dr. Richard Besser told reporters in a telephone briefing it was likely too late to try to contain the outbreak, by vaccinating, treating or isolating people.

[More info in comments]

[nw_arizona_granny]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2237358/posts

China admits to building up stockpile of gold(Obama $ scares Chinese!!)
financial post ^

Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 5:53:24 PM by maccaca

China revealed on Friday that it had secretly raised its gold reserves by three-quarters since 2003, increasing its holdings to 1,054 tonnes - or a pot worth about US$30.9-billion - and confirming years of speculation it had been buying.

[metmom]

I wonder what the ramifications are for that.

If one doesn’t get you, the other will?

I suspect that being mixed like that might allow it easier access to the body or that unless you’re immune to all three, it can take hold for the strain you’re not immune to.

[nw_arizona_granny]

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/

Swine Influenza (Flu)

Swine Influenza (swine flu) is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type A influenza that regularly cause outbreaks of influenza among pigs. Swine flu viruses do not normally infect humans, however, human infections with swine flu do occur, and cases of human-to-human spread of swine flu viruses has been documented. See General Information about Swine Flu.

From December 2005 through February 2009, a total of 12 human infections with swine influenza were reported from 10 states in the United States. Since March 2009, a number of confirmed human cases of a new strain of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection in California, Texas, and Mexico have been identified. An investigation into these cases is ongoing. For more information see Human Swine Flu Investigation.

General Information about Swine Flu
Questions and answers and guidance for treatment and infection control

Human Swine Flu Investigation
Information about the investigation of human swine flu in California

* Page last updated April 24, 2009 17:45 EST
* Content Source: Coordinating Center for Infectious Diseases (CCID)
* National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD)

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[nw_arizona_granny]

I like watching the old shows on TV land. They were full of content and acting, not the crap that’s on today. Such a difference! And the shows from the 60s run about 52 minutes, while the shows from the 70s run about 47. Today, we ‘might’ get 40 minutes without a commercial! (I bought some Perry Mason and Waltons DVDs and checked the playing time on the episodes).

The banners running across most TV shows and the little people in the corners of the screens jumping up and down make me crazy. Even in news shows, when the anchor is speaking - there is typically yet another headline going across the screen. That’s just too much to have to take in when ‘relaxing’ in front of the tube. And we wonder why our kids can’t settle down and pay attention! ADD drugs are handed out freely - we should just eliminate all the distractions that create the problem. That would include those TVs too, wouldn’t it? ;) <<<

Do the drug manufacturers own the tv stations?

I would need a drug, in order to watch it, as I do not like things that move and they make me sick, via the eyes.

I saw a lady in a class I was taking, have an epileptic fit, sitting beside me.

Another in the class knew what to do, and took over.

She was a lovely 25 year old mother and we knew that she was an epileptic so that at least was not a surprise.

Later she told me that she knew to not watch those old movies, for they jumped around and would set her off into a fit.

If it gave her a bad incident, then what is all that jumping around doing to the people who watch it?

I know that depression is a big danger today, even in Kingman today the cops were answering calls of planned and attempted suicides today, they were attempting it in pairs.

There are a lot of suicides today, more than I heard a year ago.

I agree, years ago, there were many programs, with a plot and actors and of course that was still in the era that the bad guy lost.........

[nw_arizona_granny]

I wonder what the ramifications are for that.

If one doesn’t get you, the other will?<<<

It would appear that is the plan.

Is this the pandemic that so many have watched for?

[metmom]

I like watching the old shows on TV land.

The ORIGINAL Star Trek is my favorite.

[metmom]

I read the FR link you posted about the flu. This is not good that it’s hitting young people like the Spanish flu did.

I suppose that the only up side of this is the timing. School will be out soon in many areas and that is a big factor in the spread of disease. They are germ factories. Being cooped up in a poorly ventilated classroom with people with questionable hygiene practices is not a good scenario.

[CottonBall]

The ORIGINAL Star Trek is my favorite.

That's a good one. Way ahead of its time.