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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: do the dhue

If you show me you are aligned with my efforts to positively change the image of gun ownership in our lifetimes<<<

He has a good sales gimmick.

From the sound of it, America is waking up and thinking they should own a gun, “just in case”.


4,181 posted on 03/08/2009 1:40:47 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: teenyelliott

To test your supplies, turn off your electric/water for a weekend. Live off of what you have.<<<

That is an excellent idea.

The backyard idea is for those, who plan to hit the road and try to get away.

LOL, I don’t need to do the tests, I have not been able to go shopping for years.

Of course, when one hates shopping, they tend to think ahead in stocking supplies so they will not need to go.

Do try it, it will tell you far more than you can guess, and if you have kids, make it a no tv/radio and see if you have books, etc to interest them.

I keep posting the coloring pages, as I have some printed and if I expected to see kids, I would print more and have something for them to color with.

I did that when I had a real estate office, a stack of copier papers, that I had copied interesting things on and a box of crayons, the kids colored and the parents could talk to me.


4,182 posted on 03/08/2009 1:47:59 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Camel Joe

I donate what I won’t be able to use to the food pantry at Holiday time.<<<

That of course is an excellent idea and don’t forget to take it off your taxes.

Dr. Bill Wattenberg, says he keeps a full supply of dehydrated food on hand, and when it is not fresh, for him about every 3 years, he donates it to the soup kitchen and takes it off his taxes and reorders, said he has done it for years and I am sure he has, as that is the kind of man he is.

For years, he spent his Thanksgiving serving at a Mission in Nevada, for the simple reason that when he was a young boy,
he and his father were stranded and broke in Nevada and the Priest at the mission took them in and fed them for Thanksgiving, some 50 or 60 years ago.


4,183 posted on 03/08/2009 1:53:58 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Camel Joe

Preserving Food Without Freezing or Canning by Deborah Madison <<<

That looks interesting, what methods does she use?

http://www.google.com/search?q=Preserving+Food+Without+Freezing+or+Canning+by+Deborah+Madison&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I see it is at Google books:

Preserving Food Without Freezing Or Canning: Traditional ... - Google Books Result
by Deborah Madison, Gardeners & Farmers of Terre ... - 2007 - Cooking - 197 pages
Yet here is a book that goes back to the future—celebrating traditional but little-known French techniques for storing and preserving edibles in ways that...
http://www.books.google.com/books?isbn=1933392592...

This looks interesting....

http://www.google.com/search?q=Preserving+Food+Without+Freezing+or+Canning++&btnG=Search&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&sa=2


4,184 posted on 03/08/2009 2:03:25 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Thank you for the garlic ping. <<<

You are welcome.

That is quite a site for garlic information.

I know several people who take it.


4,185 posted on 03/08/2009 2:10:05 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Once socialism hits the utilities I’m afraid we will be getting plenty of practical experience as far as going without electricity. If it’s working we won’t have the money for it anyways...


4,186 posted on 03/08/2009 2:11:24 PM PDT by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I’m 60. I just decided I don’t really care all that much if I survive. “Absent from the body... present with the Lord.”


4,187 posted on 03/08/2009 2:13:32 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

“It is time the kids find out that the party is over and real life is going to hit them in the face”
This past Friday on my way home from work I passed a spot where “homeless people” usually older gents, hold up their panhandling signs and there were two twenety somethings with their hand out. Both the young man and his girl were obviously able bodied yet would rather stand on the corner than do some honest work. I hope they are in for a very RUDE awakening.


4,188 posted on 03/08/2009 2:17:22 PM PDT by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: All

http://destinysurvival.com/2009/03/05/how-will-we-survive-a-soviet-style-collapse/

March 5, 2009
How Will We Survive a Soviet Style Collapse?

Earlier this week I heard a couple hours of The Power Hour radio program with Joyce Riley and Dave Von Kleist. I haven’t heard their program for a while, but was apparently meant to catch this particular program. They interviewed Dmitry Orlov, author of a book called Reinventing Collapse. I thought it would be a good idea to share a few comments derived from notes I jotted down during the interview. Your comments are welcome, especially if you heard the program and have a different perspective on what was aired.

First, a little background on Orlov as it appears on Amazon.com and repeated on the radio show. “Dmitry Orlov was born in Leningrad and immigrated to the United States at the age of 12. He was an eyewitness to the Soviet collapse over several extended visits to his Russian homeland between the late eighties and mid-nineties. He is an engineer with a BS in Computer Engineering and an MA in Applied Linguistics.”

Orlov sees many parallels to the current status of the U.S. and the old USSR before its collapse. We’re on the same path, though he declines to make predictions about the rate of the collapse. If someone in the old USSR would have been approached about the idea of a coming collapse in 1989, Orlov says they would have been shocked and may have laughed scornfully. After all, the USSR was OK, so people thought. The U.S. was perceived as the place where there were problems, not the USSR. However, within a year, things were beginning to look much different, and collapse became a possibility.

Orlov observed that systems in place couldn’t be undone, such as the overextended military and collectivist agriculture. Rather than reform or recreate them, they were left to take their own course. He scoffs at the idea of elites tearing down our present system and creating a New World Order, and essentially says stupidity and incompetence does more than conspiracies. Orlov says it’s irrational to burn down the barn and put up a new one when changes can be made incrementally. There’s too much invested in the present system to do otherwise. Dave Von Kleist took him to task for this, but neither gave in.

Orlov says owning gold and silver were unimportant in the economy of the USSR. He says gold and silver can easily be stolen or lost and can actually be a liability. When a gold seller and sponsor of the show disagreed, Orlov was given the chance to respond afterward. He said having gold coins sewed in the hems of children’s clothing was one way to protect it when a family left the country. Gold coins could be used to bribe a sea captain upon escape as well. He said in a collapse many are going to lose their savings, as many have here now, and true wealth should be reevaluated. He recommended seeing wealth in terms of one’s connections, skills and knowledge. This makes a lot of sense to me. Click here to explore further the idea of not owning gold in a down economy.

As for barter items, having basics is essential. When it became difficult to import products in the USSR, Orlov says many who could do so went in and out of the country with suitcases, seeking to trade watches and other items for razor blades, soap, toilet paper, etc. He emphasized the importance of gardening to have some of one’s own food and noted that a lot of land or space isn’t necessary for growing food. I’m reminded of the existence of rooftop gardens in the USSR before and after the collapse. Orlov stressed that it’s a good idea to be equipped with the necessary physical tools for gardening as well.

Surprisingly, Orlov mentioned that cities are the best place for structured community policing and organizing neighborhoods to work together for growing food, etc. He didn’t say not to go to the country, but noted not everyone could do it. I believe he thinks going to the country is merely hiding. He applauded any efforts to encourage local farming and provision for those who would need help in time of collapse.

Orlov noted that collapse happens in phases, such as financial, commercial, and political. He says we’ve experienced much of the financial collapse already and are headed into the commercial phase, which affects businesses. The political phase may be coming to fruition with the growing state sovereignty movement in this country. Remember, Soviet republics and satellite countries began breaking away before the USSR fell. Orlov discusses other aspects of collapse in his book.

When asked what he was doing himself to prepare, his answer was surprising. Not only has he written articles that have appeared on select web sites, he sold his house in Boston and acquired a custom made sailboat for navigating up and down the East coast. It’s a means of transportation that’s viable and doesn’t require paying a mortgage or rent.

The interview with Orlov was a pleasure to listen to for me, since he was so well spoken and had a reasonable answer for every point of contention. I don’t know whether he’s right about everything and do disagree on a couple issues, but he’s seen a country and an empire collapse which let people literally die in the streets. His book deserves a look.

Click on the picture of the book below to order Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects, By Dmitry Orlov from Amazon.com. Decide for yourself whether what he has to say serves as a warning or gives insights on what to do to prepare for survival in a coming collapse.


4,189 posted on 03/08/2009 2:22:54 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All

http://destinysurvival.com/2008/06/30/survival-gardening-its-not-too-late-to-plant-beans-in-containers/

June 30, 2008
Survival Gardening–It’s Not Too Late to Plant Beans in Containers

Believe it or not, it’s time to start planning for crops you can harvest this fall from your survival garden. While many gardeners are harvesting green beans, you can be planting some for harvest later. If you plant in July, you may be able to avoid pests that bother beans earlier in the season. Also, there should be no problem with germination, since the soil will be warm.

Growing beans in containers is a good idea. There are plenty of varieties of bush beans out there to choose from. Unlike pole or runner beans, bush beans don’t need support because they don’t run or climb all over the place. You can control soil temperature and moisture more easily in buckets, nursery pots, or even grow bags. They’ll blossom and set beans sooner, too. Imagine impressing your city neighbors by growing beans on your balcony.

This may seem elementary, but beans are simply seeds. If you let green beans, or any other beans, grow to full maturity on the plant, you’ll have seeds you can use next season. Naturally, if you’ve planted a variety of dry beans, you’ll want them to grow to maturity. It’s fun to pop them out of their shells when they’re ready. Of course, if you’re saving bean seeds, you’ll want to save seeds from open pollinated varieties, since hybrids won’t produce true next season. Hybrids may revert to one of the characteristics of the plants used for breeding them.

I’ve heard the flowers are edible, though I’ve never tried eating them. If you start your beans late or have a really short season, that might be something you’ll want to keep in mind. After all, we’re talking about survival gardening, and every angle is worth considering.

I’ve had good success with Provider bush beans for green beans. They produce a lot at first, then slow down in the heat of the summer. You can get Provider beans from Park’s Seed. Just click on their logo, type Beans in their search box, and you’ll see Provider beans on the first page. Beans are so easy to grow and so good, how can you resist?


LOL, I use dead tree branches for my beans to climb on, one evening, I got carried away, planning my garden and planted a forest of dead branches, from the Male Mulberry tree here.

A few days later, a friend stopped by and gave me the bad news that I, “ could not grow new trees from dead branches”.

Laughing, I told her that “those will grow bean trees for me”.

I even use the smaller ones in my pots indoors.

If you want to keep things like cukes and cantaloupe off the ground, lay down a fuller branch and they will go up it.

Sure “you” might build a trellis, or other support, but I had a stack of dead branches that were not needed for kindling wood and I like the look of branches, more than modern looks of finished or plastic, etc.

granny


4,190 posted on 03/08/2009 2:44:17 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All

http://destinysurvival.com/2008/08/19/survival-gardening-my-bean-factory/

This photo, taken Monday, August 18th, shows Missouri Wonder pole beans, planted in 3-gallon buckets of soil, growing up strings on a bean tower.

Time for true confessions. I had good intensions of showing this last month when the beans looked like a lush, green tropical jungle. They’re past their prime now, but are still producing, in spite of having been through storms, including hail once. Insect damage hasn’t been too serious. Weather is a little cool for August at my location, so maybe plants are getting ready for fall. There are probably 30 plants growing up the tower. At least one couldn’t be dissuaded from latching onto the electric pole guy wire.

From my reading of the experiences of other gardeners, Missouri Wonder beans may not be as flavorful as the more popular Kentucky Wonder beans or similar varieties, but the vines are said to handle stress well. When it comes to survival gardening, having a productive bean is more important than having the most flavorful bean in my opinion.

These beans had excellent germination when I planted them in late April. They started producing abundantly in late June and early July, but slowed a little as the summer has progressed. At first I got handfuls of large beans daily, but now I harvest about every other day. So far we’ve put at least a dozen bags in the freezer, in addition to several bags kept in the fridge now and then for fresh eating. I’ve never grown pole beans before, so have been quite impressed with the results. I plan to save some of the seeds as well.

I share all of this with you to show you what is possible for your survival gardening efforts, even if you have limited space, poor soil, or other adverse conditions. Choose pole beans you like, try them on a tower, then watch the bean factory go to work. If you have experiences you’d like to share regarding beans you’ve grown, please feel free to leave a comment.


4,191 posted on 03/08/2009 2:51:36 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All

http://destinysurvival.com/2008/04/07/potatoes-for-survival-gardening-its-in-the-bag/

Potatoes for Survival Gardening–It’s in the Bag!

Most of my gardening is done in containers. It amazes some people that I’ve grown potatoes in three or five gallon buckets of soil. They just can’t imagine doing anything other than growing directly in the ground the conventional way. This year I’m trying a couple of other experimental methods of growing potatoes, and shortly I’ll tell you about one of those methods.

Some may argue that It’s not worth growing potatoes at all, since they can be had inexpensively at the grocery store. Survival Sam would say such people don’t have the survival attitude. When you grow your own potatoes, you can grow any variety you care to, and you don’t have to worry about whether your potatoes are grown safely and naturally.

Thankfully, potatoes are easy to grow and don’t have to be confined to being grown in the ground. That means they can be grown anywhere. Furthermore, since they’ll produce new tubers along their stems, soil or compost can be piled up as high as you can put it. That’s what makes them so great for a survival gardening situation. I’ve heard of stacking up old tires and filling them in with soil or compost as the potato plants grow higher. At the end of the season, the tires are unstacked to get at the potatoes. I’ve also heard of growing potatoes in a compost container made of chicken wire and heaping up the compost as the plants grow. But what about growing them in grow bags? That’s one small experiment I’m trying this season.

I’ve got three five-gallon black grow bags partly filled with soil made mostly of coir. Coir is simply ground coconut husks. I like it because it has the consistency of brown sugar, and fertilizer mixes in well. I’ve put one potato in each bag, made sure the potatoes are well covered, and rolled down the sides of each bag. I’ll add more soil and unroll the bags as the plants grow.

Incidentally, these bags are sitting in a black tray originally meant for mixing concrete. This allows for bottom watering. The soil in the bags will soak up the shallow level of water I poured into the tray. All I have to do is keep an eye on things so the potatoes don’t get too wet or dry.

Growing potatoes in bags is quite simple, saves space, and will allow for easy harvest later. If you’d like to try something similar for your survival garden, Gardener’s Supply has what they call potato bins specifically for potatoes. They’re 15-gallons each and can hold as many as four potatoes. Gardener’s Supply reports harvesting 13 pounds of spuds. The growing bins can be used more than one year and can be folded for storage.

There are a few more advantages of growing in bags or bins. There’s no Digging or Hilling Required. The porous fabric of the Gardener’s Supply Potato Bin aerates roots, prevents heat build-up and allows excess water to drain away. The 18” diameter size lets you grow your own potatoes in just about any sunny spot. No conventional garden required.

It’s easy to get potato bins from Gardener’s Supply. Just click on the Gardener’s Supply logo and type Potato Bin in their home page search box. You’ll see they have potatoes as well as the bins to grow them in. Click on the picture of the potato bin to go to a description and ordering information. Don’t miss your chance to grow potatoes the easy way. Hurry before the season slips away!


http://destinysurvival.com/2008/06/10/survival-gardening-growing-potatoes-in-bags/

June 10, 2008
Survival Gardening–Growing Potatoes in Bags

Potatoes in Large Gro Bags

This photo, taken June 8th, shows blossoming Kennebec potatoes in three 5-gallon grow bags of coir and rock powder fertilizer, sitting in a black tray. As described in an earlier post, I planted the potatoes with bags rolled down to about one third their full height. As the plants grew, I unrolled the bags and added more coir. A couple of the bags still need topped off. Bottom watering to a depth of less than two inches is done as needed. This is the first year I’ve tried growing potatoes using this passive hydroponics method. I look forward to harvesting bags full of potatoes this season.

If your survival gardening situation requires you to do things differently, or if you want to explore new possibilities, click here for Mittleider Gardening, and order an e–book or two, such as Gardening by the Foot or Grow-Bed Gardening. There’s even a course on Mittleider gardening methods so you can really, uh, dig deep into the subject. No matter which e-book you choose, you’ll discover how to garden organically, no matter what your soil is like or how much space you have.


http://destinysurvival.com/2008/06/09/survival-gardening-sweet-potatoes-in-bags/

June 9, 2008
Survival Gardening–Sweet Potatoes in Bags

Young Sweet Potatoes in Grow Bags

This photo was taken on June 8th. It may not looklike it now, but the vines of these young sweet potatoes will form a jungle of vines later this summer, and tubers will be bulging in the bags when they’re ready to harvest.. The plants were purchased from a local greenhouse and are now growing in 2 gallon grow bags of coir with rock powder mixed in for fertilizer. The bags are sitting in black trays. Bottom watering to a depth of less than two inches is done as needed. This is an example of passive hydroponics.

If you need to garden a little differently because of lack of space, poor soil, or some other reason, click here for Mittleider Gardening. There you’ll find several e-books, such as Grow-Bed Gardening or Gardening by the Foot, which will guide you into the survival gardening methods that will work for you.


http://destinysurvival.com/2009/02/17/survival-gardening-with-an-early-start-for-potatoes/

February 17, 2009
Survival Gardening With an Early Start for Potatoes

Here’s a survival gardening experiment. Try planting a few potatoes earlier than usual this year by putting one potato in three or five gallon buckets of soil in a garage or basement where temps are well above freezing. Provide light from a shop lamp or nearby sunny window.

Perhaps you could start potatoes in grow bags. Roll the sides of the bags down until the potato plants grow and need more soil. Then you can gradually unroll the bag.. .

Potatoes grow best in cooler weather. If you can start them early in containers or bags indoors, you can move them outside when conditions are more favorable.

If you think growing potatoes in the garden in winter is impossible, then consider the experience of one North Carolina grower in this excerpt from a “Backwoods Home Magazine” article.

Plant your Irish potatoes this fall or winter

By Robert L. Williams

Admittedly, this type of gardening is a little harder, takes a little longer, and seems to be a total flop. But wait till spring and see the difference.

During the depths of winter the snows and rains will cause the mulch materials to decay and, as the mulch decays, warmth is generated, just as green hay or green sawdust will generate heat as it decays. The heat is generated for several weeks or even months, depending upon the amount of mulch used, and causes the potato sets to begin their growth cycle so that the roots begin to grow. The second layer of mulch and the dirt on top of it prevents the heat from escaping rapidly, while the soil on top is too cold for the plants to emerge from the soil. Small potatoes start to form very early, and they will grow all winter.

Read the whole article here: www.backwoodshome.com/articles/williams48.html

Excerpt used with permission of Backwoods Home Magazine. www.backwoodshome.com 1-800-835-2418

To understand the author’s growing method, you’ll need to read the entire article. Granted, if you follow his procedure, it’s best to start winter potatoes in the fall. Make a note now to yourself to start a few next fall. Meanwhile, consider starting a few right now and get an early start on your survival gardening.


http://destinysurvival.com/2008/06/18/consider-coir-for-your-survival-gardening/

June 18, 2008
Consider Coir for Your Survival Gardening

If you’ve seen my blog posts from last week about potatoes and sweet potatoes, you know I mentioned using coir. A friend put me onto it a few years ago, and I love it.

If you’re not familiar with it, coir is simply crushed coconut husks compressed into bricks. When you immerse the bricks in water, they expand to several times their original size and can be broken down so that it has the feel of brown sugar. A half pound brick makes 8 quarts of medium. Since coir is made from coconut husks, it’s renewable. That should be good news to anyone who might be concerned about depleting sources of peat.

One of the many reasons I like coir is that it stores conveniently in brick form, unlike trying to keep bags of potting soil. You can buy it ahead of time and make it up as you need it during the season. Coir is great for container gardening or for using in grow bags. It’s inert, which means you’ll have to add fertilizer to it. Also, by adding coir to potting soil, you’ll make your soil mix go farther and add some fluffiness to its texture.

Here’s another good use for coir. If you’re keeping worms for composting, like I mentioned in a post several days ago on the book Worms Eat My Garbage, you’ll find coir safe and easy to use for keeping those worms.

Gardener’s Supply has coir. When you go to their site, type the word Coir in the search box, and a page will come up showing Gardener’s Supply’s products with coir. I recommend the bricks of coir they’re offering for worm bedding. Buying at least 12 or 15 bricks would be a great way to add to your stock of survival gardening supplies.


http://destinysurvival.com/2008/02/07/survival-gardening-hydroponics-potential/

February 7, 2008
Survival Gardening–Hydroponics Potential

Hydroponic Potatoes

The above photo is taken from The Complete Guide to Soilless Gardening, by pioneer hydroponics researcher W. E. Gericke, copyright 1940, Prentice-Hall, Inc.: New York, p. 151.

In case you’re having trouble reading the caption, it says: “Fig. 26. Choice Potatoes produced by hydroponics. From 60 to 70 percent of the seedbed was covered with tubers. The yield for 1/100 acre was 1482 pounds.” (Emphasis added.)

Gericke planted potatoes at the rate of one plant per 100 square inches in 6 ft. by 10 ft. beds containing about 4 inches of litter made from wood shavings, wheat straw, and sawdust, which was kept moist with fertilizer solution.

An amazing variety of crops can be grown using hydroponics, and the results can be impressive, as you can see. With simple hydroponics practices plants get all the nutrition they need and use less water. Hydroponics could be a life saver during drought conditions.

The wonderful news for you is that hydroponics doesn’t have to be difficult or complicated. You can grow garden vegetables at home with hydroponics. Begin with some lettuce or your other favorite salad greens.

To discover your survival gardening hydroponics potential, go to the Survival Gardening category on the right sidebar of this page and click on Hydroponic Home Gardening. The link will take you to a site where you can buy your copy of The Hydroponic Garden Guide in time for this year’s gardening season.


http://destinysurvival.com/2008/06/05/survival-gardening-with-worms-a-resource-to-get-you-started/

June 5, 2008
Survival Gardening with Worms–A Resource to Get You Started

If you’ve seen very many Three Stooges episodes, you know they have some recurring gags that are good for a laugh, no matter what the context. One of my favorites is where one of the guys says he ate a rotten egg and burnt toast for breakfast. Another asks, “Why’d you do that?” The reply: “Because I have a tapeworm, and it’s good enough for it.”

The next time you burn the toast, you can feed it to worms, too. That is, you can if you have a worm bin. Of course, you’ll be feeding earthworms or red worms, not tapeworms! The definitive guide to get that worm bin going is Worms Eat my Garbage, by Mary Appelhof.

Using worms to process organic waste is called vermicomposting. It provides excellent soil for your garden while getting rid of your kitchen waste. Appelhof has been doing this for more than 25 years. This inexpensive, easy to read book will show you how to make and maintain your very own worm bin. You’ll be amazed at the results.

Click on the logo below to order your copy of Worms Eat My Garbage.

By the way, when you’ve got your worm bin going, you’ll be able to impress the socks off your family and friends by telling them you have a genuine “vermicomposting system”. OK, maybe they won’t be impressed, but your plants will be when you grow them with that fabulous organic, black gold compost. And after all, anything that improves your survival garden is what you really want.


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April 8, 2008
Strawberries for the Survival Garden–It’s in the Bag!

“I liked your blog post about potato bags.” To my utter surprise, it was Survival Sally on the phone for me. What a treat!

“Thank you,” I mumbled.

“Did you know Park Seed has bags for growing strawberries?”

“No, tell me about them,” I said.

“Now, you should know you have to hang these up somewhere for them to really work,” Sally said. “These bags from Park Seed have holes for five strawberry plants. Or you could put ten plants in them if you slit holes in the back. Or you could get longer bags with ten holes in them already.”

“How do they work?” I asked.

“Oh, it’s easy,” Sally cooed. “All you do is fill each pouch with potting soil and set a seedling into each of the criss-cross openings. Then you water the seedlings really well and let the strawberry plant roots develop for about 2 weeks. Now we come to the hanging part. You have to hang the pouch where your strawberries will grow best. You know, someplace like a sunny wall or on a patio. I think it might be fun to hang several from a coat rack and make people think you’ve got a strawberry tree.” She giggled.

“So, what’s the advantage of growing strawberries in bags?” I asked.

“Well, strawberry plants that are grown off the ground have cleaner fruits and leaves. Besides, you can put in the potting soil mix you want, and it’s nice and loose to work with. Also, you have fewer pests and diseases. And something I really like is you don’t have to do any bending or stooping to harvest those sweet, red beauties when they’re ready. Now, the problem is, they’re so tempting, you want to pick them off and eat them all right then and there!”

“That makes my mouth water already,” I said. “I love strawberries.”

“So do I,” said Sally. “And these growing bags make growing them so easy. They’re durable and can be reused. Just imagine those green plants popping out of these green pouches. Did I mention you get four in a package? Well, they’re really a good buy because they can save a lot of space and are certainly less effort. Anyone can grow strawberries about anywhere now.”

“You say Park Seed has them?” I asked.

“Yes. Just click on Park’s logo and type Strawberry Growing Bags in the Park’s home page search box. When I did that, all I had to do was click on the picture of the growing bag on the next page that came up. That took me to a page with a description and info on ordering.”

“That’s simple enough,” I said.

“And, by the way, if you write this up in a blog post, be sure to tell your readers to have fun growing those juicy strawberries!”


4,192 posted on 03/08/2009 3:18:39 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Camel Joe

Once socialism hits the utilities I’m afraid we will be getting plenty of practical experience as far as going without electricity. If it’s working we won’t have the money for it anyways...<<<<

That is true, but there is far more danger to your electric supply from anarchists and jihadi terrorists.

It is in the jihadi training manuals how to take out the electric and they have, via the computer all over the world.

About 88 or 89, one afternoon, on the shortwave radio, I listened to a couple hours of how to take down the electric lines and how to culture bioweapons in your kitchen.

Strange, I never got that station again on the radio.

I listen to the police scanners on the internet, one night in California, they threw hand grenades at the gas pipeline, I heard one Officer tell his Captain that he had found the grenade in the hole.

It never made the news.

One story that did and it matched what I had heard 3 or 4 years before on the SW radio, this was after 9-11, from Washington to Tijuana the main transmission lines for electric was messed with.

In the middle of California, a couple with a video camera, photographed a 60+ year old American doing his thing on the high tension towers for electric.

Freepers traced him, once he was arrested and we found his website, he supported Palestine and had a “partner”, a younger woman from Palestine, it was as hateful a site as any jihadi site.

And he was only using one of several methods that i heard on the SW.

This week, they arrested 4 Americans in Las Vegas for being terror planners, they were ____, a supremest group.

It amazes me how the supremest groups will join with the jihadi groups and support them, the communist do also.

Yes, we will be without electric and water, if they can make it happen.


4,193 posted on 03/08/2009 3:38:25 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I’m 60. I just decided I don’t really care all that much if I survive.<<<

First welcome to the thread, you are welcome here.

I believe that we cannot die until God says it is time.

Being in the final stages of Emphysema, I know that I will not survive that much of what is coming, as I had 6 months to fight it out, almost 4 years ago, the doctors do not know the strength of Freeper prayers.

I promise you, at the time you think it is over, you will fight to survive.

I use an oxygen generator, full time, and did not realize how badly I needed it, until a couple months ago and the electric went out during the night and I woke up in big trouble.

I finally had to call for help ...something I have never done before.

The electric came back on 7 hours after I knew it was out and
I am not recovered and am accepting even more how close it was.

I do have a back up supply of oxygen, so i can stretch it out for one day.

Then if God has my cloud ready, I will be outa here.

When you find a penny on the street, look up and imagine me laughing at all the Freepers, looking up when they find a penny.

Get prepared, nothing compares with being hungry and I am a lot older than you.


4,194 posted on 03/08/2009 3:47:55 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Camel Joe

Both the young man and his girl were obviously able bodied yet would rather stand on the corner than do some honest work. I hope they are in for a very RUDE awakening.<<<

Yes, they more than likely found out that there was money to be made in panhandling.

Again, if they were from Nevada or like I am 25 miles from a Nevada on the border casino area, there are no jobs.

Today’s Fox news in Las Vegas says that they have a 10% unemployment rate.

That sounds about right, as Laughlin laid off all they dared and cut the rest to less than 40 hours.

But even hunger does not give one the right to be rude.


4,195 posted on 03/08/2009 3:51:24 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

“I believe that we cannot die until God says it is time.”

Agree. Just sayin’ that when God says it is time, I’m totally fine with that. Whatever. Whenever.


4,196 posted on 03/08/2009 3:51:59 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Do you know where to get hyssop?

I'm planting some in my garden this year. You can get hyssop heirloom seeds at VictorySeeds.com.

4,197 posted on 03/08/2009 4:43:10 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

If I plant these potatoes do you think they'll grow? How about the onion?

4,198 posted on 03/08/2009 6:05:43 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: DelaWhere
Good news - my grandson loves the idea of having a bee hive! I ordered a bunch of catalogues and the movie Ulee's Gold for him. We have a pond out back, away from the house . . . I think that's a good place for it.

Do you know how to get rid of troublesome bees? I added a roof to part my back deck and now I seem to have bees hanging around. They are very annoying so close to the house and pool.

4,199 posted on 03/08/2009 6:11:40 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Call a beekeeper. Some will come out and collect bees for their own hives.


4,200 posted on 03/08/2009 6:22:17 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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