Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny
Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training
I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood
pretty big patch of nettles by the barn.<<<
Yes, do try all their uses.
I was surprised that I liked the Amaranth /pig weed family for greens better than spinach, just steam them and add butter.
Purslane I have been eating 30 years, buy the seeds at Nichols in Oregon.
There is a lot out there to learn and many of your types of plants, I will not have here.
Nettles is in the back of my mind as on the dye plant list, but I didn’t look so am not sure I am right.
During WW II there were thousands of vehicles of all types run on wood gas.<<<
Stanley Steam car ran on wood.
My uncles in WW2, ran on propane, I remember seeing the tanks in the trunks, of the black buicks.
You should be able to design a goat cart.
Or come on out and I will show you where the wild burros are hiding. Hundreds of them.
That is a later model tractor, than what I drove in Texas on the farm, my front wheels were only inches apart and the rear wheels were at least 5 or 6 foot tall, taller than I was at 12 years old.
Would be nice for anyone to send a little prayer up for her. She didn’t want me to stay that night but we had a good round of tearful memories today.<<<
Not a problem, glad to add a prayer for her and asked also for at least 10 extra feathers, for your Angel wings, you are going to have the most blessed wings in Heaven.
Thank you for all you do for others.
Some store of horticultural corn meal whether you grow it or have some on hand is the best thing for foot fungus.
For the feminine products any other absorbent natural fabric will be good. <<<
Yes, any old rag will almost work for the ladies needs.
Interesting on the cornmeal, I had not heard that use for it, but think that I did hear it worked on fungus in the garden soil.
Interesting.
I understand Tree Tea Oil works on the feet, with water in a spray. LOL, how much,??, maybe a quarter of a teaspoon in a half cup of sterile water.
But, they never last very long. Something malfunctioning in those jars I think because the olives don’t last long enough.<<<
Yes, you might blame the jars, “they just don’t make them like they did once.”
Bill and I did our courting, with our 2 kids in the back seat fighting.
It was very low key, picnics and long drives to the mountains and deserts, all within a hundred miles.
In the mountains at Julian, we got fresh apples grown there.
I couldn’t get Bill to the desert, until his lung almost killed him in Oregon and the doctor said if you could take him to Arizona, he might live.
I said “that I can do, I bought 8 acres at Wellton for an investment”. and we went to Wellton and he live another 30 years.
Bill had one lung full of scar tissue, he was shot through the lung, in WW2, Sgt Greene pulled his dogtags and listed him as dead, but he wasn’t.
The Germans felt sorry for him, he was about 5’3” and 15 years old, so they put him in the basement to live or die and one of the nurses, thought he was cute and fought to keep him alive.
He then did 2 or 3 years in a german prison camp.
His lung was never treated, and a hint of a cold and he would almost die.
They almost killed him in Oregon, the doctor had him so full of antibiotics, and none working, and the cough syrup did not work.
Finally the med. doc told him to get a bottle of apricot brandy and use it for cough syrup, and to be sure and take a swallow of it before he went to bed, so it would coat the throat and kill any germs that he had in his throat.
He did, kept in the closet, and you knew Bill was on his way to bed, when you saw the bottle tilt.
Another thing the doctor neglected to tell us and no other doctor had ever told us, was that he should drink buttermilk, to replace the good bacteria in his stomach, after taking the antibiotics.
I didn’t have a chiropractor in Portland, so we went to one near the house, I had made 2 appointments, and the doctor took one look at us and said he would take me first.
Once we were in the treatment room, he said “that must have been some drunk your husband has been on”.
When he heard the truth, he told me, no problem, it will be easy to fix him up, go buy buttermilk and get him a big bottle of liquid vitamin C at the health food store.
And it worked.
“See what I can do when the mood strikes me?”<<<
And he can do miracles.
He bloomed so many flowers in the desert of California, the first spring that we owned the 10 acres there, that you could not walk and miss stepping on several.
Amazing, tiny daisies that the entire plant and flower would be under 3 inches tall.
That the oil companies are buying water rights is not a surprise.
People are buying them all over the world.
In the west, they are often sold and i get scared when the towns sell them to others.
Ours sold off our rights to the Colorado river water allotment.
All our water comes from wells, and the water table is now 2,000 foot deep.
Along Hwy 95 at Wickiup, about 40 years ago, the hay farmers sold theirs to the big mine below Yarnell.
And so it goes, follow the money and you will know what fool sold them.
In Oregon and Utah, you can buy land and not get the water rights, or that is how it was 40 years ago, the water could be sold separately.
It is the same with mining rights, they are owned by the gov. the railroads and miners, but not by the average homeowner.
We will pay the price one of these days.
I have had a couple of old folks who used to just love to come out in the spring and pick all the newly sprouted poke weed. <<<
Isn’t that the one that puts out the poison berry?
pokeweed- cut 1/4’ above the root.
whoopsie,whoopsie,
cut 1/4 above plant leaves rooted in ground
Cinnamon/honey toast? How do I make that? It sounds delicious. (I bet it’s already in this thread somewhere..._ <<<
First you grow the wheat.
Next is the harvest and grinding of the wheat into flour.
Then you make bread.
[You may have to build an oven first, adobe is good.]
Then you will need to make a knife to slice the bread with.
Now, you will need a low fire and 2 sticks to hold the bread, over the fire, so it gets toasted.
Careful, don’t burn it, or get so close the sticks catch on fire.
Some will say you mix the cinnamon into the honey, to suit your taste.
Keep in mind that in the beginning they intended us to eat the honey and cinnamon for health reasons....LOL, I forgot why now, it is back about 150 posts.
Others will say, spread honey on the bread and sprinkle a little cinnamon on it.
If you do not butter the bread, it will absorb more honey.
Of course the honey should be that, which you have grown, you will need to build a hive or use a hollow tree and I guess you will just have to catch enough bees with the butterfly net to form a colony.
Or try praying and ask God where his supply of bees have a honey tree in the forest, that you can rob.
Since I like my honey, in a mixture of peanut butter, butter and honey, I will more than likely use the cinnamon sprinkled on.
But if it is as good as I suspect it will be, then it could be mixed into the above mixture.
It is all a matter of taste, I mix about half and half butter and peanut butter and then add all the honey the mixture will hold, keep it in the refrig after making it and it will last a while.
Esp. good on english muffins, and if in a hurry, will stay in place and not drip, so you can eat it and still drive.
Sorry, I couldn’t resist playing with your question, thanks for making me smile as I attempted to make you laugh too....
You can hide anything in eggs.
My sister in law, hid vegetables that way, as the kids ate them and didn’t fuss.
I was there and saw her fixing eggs with green beans in them and had to ask.
If your greens are fresh, just steam them a few minutes until the wilt and go limp, then serve with butter and try lemon juice.
I like ranch dressing from the Safeway’s own store label on any green cooked or raw.
In a catering class I took, they sliced the Zucchini squash thin, browned it and a little onion and then poured beaten eggs over it and scrambled them, that was gourmet food
in 1955.
LOL, I put whole corn in my pancake batter, with a little vanilla and then treat them as regular pancakes....I was doing it 30 years before I saw a recipe for it.
When I quit laughing at the women’s magazine that had the recipe, I called my nephew, who for 25 years had kinda fussed at eating pancakes with corn in them.
I like crumbled bacon in my pancake batter, with the corn or without.
Started that, as I never got to eat bacon, we had one who was able to eat all that was cooked, so I put it in the batter.
LOL, and honey and cinnamon is good on pancakes, so is peanut butter.
I remember reading something about nettles and helping with baldness. Can’t remember if you were supposed to make a tea or what. I just remember teasing my husband about it. I’ll have to look around here and see if I can find that book. I think I would like to be more familiar with its contents these days.
cut 1/4 above plant leaves rooted in ground<<<
It does not grow in this part of Arizona, so I only knew from reading about it.
When cooking poke weed, don’t you change the water a couple times to get rid of something that is in it?
I am glad you found the thread and you are welcome to join in.
I remember reading something about nettles and helping with baldness.<<<
I think it is nettles, there were several herbs that had baldness in them, that i posted a couple days ago, they will be back about 200 or 300 posts.
Yes, herb books are interesting the first time you read them and then one day, you go to them to find one subject.
My herbal bible is “Back to Eden”, by Jethro Kloss, it was written in the 1920’s and once you know it , you will notice that the “in” herb books of today is his rewritten.
It can or could be found for a dollar or two on the internet.
That is where I got the tea that I made for Bill’s lung colds and Kendra’s awful pimples and they worked.
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You’re up kinda late/early granny. I got up to take some Advil, I guess I slept funny or something, my arm was bothering me. Thought I’d check in here while I was up. I’m headed back to bed. Get some rest, too, granny.
I have this thread open in another window so I don’t lose my place. I’m still back in the 1400s trying to catch up. I’ll keep a look out for more nettle info.
Welcome to the thread, glad you found it.
LOL, now you will have to read the entire thread, as we have added many things to that list of what was needed to survive.
Feel free to add your thoughts, no matter what one has, he will wish he had something else to go with it.
If you are in the 1400’s you will find the many herb posts and there are more at the last links, that were not at the first link, LOL, you will know what I am talking about, each herb is a separate post, and I would love to have her book on herbs.
Yes, I am a night owl, always have been.
Poor Bill was a 10:30 to 6 am sleeper and if you didn’t want a grouch, you had better make sure he did not get woke up in that time frame.
I worked many years and do not watch a clock, don’t even have one, except the computer clock.
Sleep well and I hope the pill does its job.
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