Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny
Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training
I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood
Okay, I’m about to try to make a run on catching up to the thread now. I went and spent the day with my widow friend. Today marks the one year anniversary of her husband’s death.
Would be nice for anyone to send a little prayer up for her. She didn’t want me to stay that night but we had a good round of tearful memories today.
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/current/RES
Daily Reservoir Storage Summary
Ending at midnight - 02/17/2009
For selected reservoirs in Northern and Southern California
Report generated: 02/18/2009 13:02
[I think it says they have 60% of the normal water supply...granny]
LOL - not NOW. Maybe tomorrow. I've had an emotional day. I'm chillin'. And Lloyd is driving back from Houston so I've got about 2 hours to do nothing but check in with this thread. He might get candy tomorrow.
I do need to grind the peels up to be ready for the ants. I've already had to treat 2 mounds this year.
US-CERT Current Activity
Active Exploitation of Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 Vulnerability
Original release date: February 17, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Last revised: February 17, 2009 at 4:25 pm
US-CERT is aware of a public report indicating active exploitation of
a previously patched vulnerability in Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.
This vulnerability was addressed in Microsoft Security Advisory
MS09-002. Additional information is available in US-CERT Technical
Cyber Security Alert TA09-041A.
US-CERT encourages users to apply the update or workarounds as
specified in Microsoft Security Advisory MS09-002. Additional
information can be found in Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 961260.
Relevant Url(s):
http://blog.trendmicro.com/another-exploit-targets-ie7-bug/
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961260
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS09-002.mspx
http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA09-041A.html
I saw that (the extra files). I will be going through them when I have the time! I really enjoy getting a hot cup of coffee first thing in the morning and then reading this thread or now, your files. thanks.
I thought about that after I posted it and wished I'd throught it through better. Socks will need to be saved for feet even if unmatched. Foot care is something that will be critical to those of us who work and survive. An extra sock will best be saved for when you have need it as a sock.
Moleskin - that's something that must be in the medical inventories. Foot care.
Some store of horticultural corn meal whether you grow it or have some on hand is the best thing for foot fungus.
For the feminine products any other absorbent natural fabric will be good.
Good idea. I just did it. I had it set to 50, but that’s not enough any more ;)
I have never gotten to do that. That would be awesome. I just have to buy jars from stores. But, they never last very long. Something malfunctioning in those jars I think because the olives don't last long enough.
I saw them once in Arizona when I visited my aunt in Tucson in the spring. I have seen it again in New Mexico in more recent years. Spring in the desert is a God inspired thing. I think He is saying, "See what I can do when the mood strikes me?" LOL
I have heard the white sugar is good in wounds. Oddly enough I also heard that it has antibacterial effects in addition to helping stop bleeding. Who'd o' thunk it? Of course, honey is antibackterial and should be used in wounds if you have no antibiotic cream and have honey.
Making myself a note to go through my first aid stuff to get you a list of the "odd things." Most of the odd things I learned from an RN who worked with me in teaching camping and outdoor survival skills to kids from the city.
I can't recommend enough that people have some sort of first aid class. Even if we never had TSHTF event, it could save the life of a loved one or a stranger. But, when TSHTF, you will be out of opportunity for that first aid class you always meant to take.
End of article.....
“The average American used to be able to borrow to buy a home, send their kids to a good school [and] buy a car,” Davidowitz says. “A lot of that is gone.”
Going forward, the veteran retail industry consultant foresees higher savings rate and people trading down in both the goods and services they buy - as well as their aspirations.
The end of rampant consumerism is ultimately a good thing, he says, but the unraveling of an economy built on debt-fueled spending will be painful for years to come.
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A few days ago I would say that this guy is way off base. Then today I saw someone stop their car to pick up a road kill rabbit. Last year dead deer would rot by the roadside, not any more.
I would not be surprised at water rationing. I stated that I have seen worse droughts in the last 30 years but we also did not have as great a population then. With the growth of major cities and bureaucracy, I imagine we'll see rationing. My thought is we'd see it even if we didn't truly need it because control of water is crucial in dry states like ours.
On a side note I will relate something my younger daughter has been telling me for a couple of years. I don't have links to data about this but I'm sure someone here would know how to find them.
Daughter works as a "land man" in oil and gas leases. She leases and negotiates mineral rights for oil or gas speculators and drillers. She's a smart young lady as she is one of the few that still has a job as a landman in north Texas right now. She began telling me a couple of years ago that the big oil companies are not as much interested in buying long term leases on oil and gas rights as they are for water rights. She tells me that a lot of west Texas water rights have been signed sealed and delivered over to oil companies for the next 100 years.
so. the oil companies have our ground water tied up. everyone on this thread is bright enough to see the implications of this.
Candied Citrus Peel....
.... copied and saved to the recipe file. Printed to set on the kitchen counter so I don’t forget to make some for theman. It will be a nice surprise for him.... when i get around to doing it. LOL
Nope. I know that. Was just commiserating on the subject. I got a couple of things from my s-i-l who just retired from the army that are along the lines of what you've posted too. Only I won't post because don't want s-i-l to have problems.
LBJ stuffed the ballot boxes and burned the courthouse in Duval county. Webb county also had a great many names on their voted roster of people who resided in the cemetary at the time of the election. It's not a secret and about everybody knows about it, I guess nobody had enough clout to go against the old SOB.
The yellow dog mentality is still here. I'm in a rual county and they don't even have local candidates who are "R". We vote for local elections in the primaries and if you don't vote in the dimocRAT primary you don't vote on local offices. I am pretty familiar with the mentality, I talked to my Grama about politics till I was blue in the face. She agreed with me on issues but she refused to vote anything other than dimocRAT because her daddy told her never to vote for anything else. Grama was not an ignorrant woman though knowing that she voted like that would make you think it. She was so set in her ways about it that in her final weeks in the hospital when she was working on saying her goodbyes she popped out of sleep one day and said to me, "Well I'm not going to be able to cancel out your vote in the next election." She died within 3 weeks of that and didn't get to vote in the 2004 election. When I went to vote her name was still on the roster.... I was *so* tempted to get an absentee ballot in her name. ...LOL... okay to make a joke on her. But she was gone so no point in breaking laws.
Alas, the other 3 of my grandparents had the same voting mentality. My grandfather on the other side even encouraged me with some politics that I did around town. We were fighting higher taxes. He said I was fighting on the right side. But, every last election in his life he marked that "D" box on the form.
~sigh~
At least my kids get it. They know how to vote smart. LOL
LOL - I got more cantaloupe soakin' in sugar for preserves again cause we got more than we could eat... And my lovely friend today sent me home with a coconut pie... so I will just have to come get the peach pie next time you make it...
Springs a comin'... I'll get more peaches then. I still have 6 pints in my pantry from last summer. And about 8 pints of peach habanero preserves.
Chances are if the daughter looks around much at gardening in that area she will come in contact with Howard Garrett, aka The Dirt Doctor. He has a business there and helps with the landscaping for some of the suburbs up there. He's at most of the home and garden events and does seminars that are interesting. So, if she is looking to learn she'll come in contact with him. He is a great down to earth teacher.
Especially the roaster because I like a little brown on top. I have only made single servings of my twice baked rice because I usually make that for me in self-defense when I make a potato dish for Lloyd or the family. It's really easy to mix up with a little bit of leftover rice. And I just mix it up and put it in a small cereal bowl to bake/brown.
A doctor gave me that for early treatment of cancer, too. I still have a bottle, I will remember for the dog if need be.
An even better deworming trick for a pet or human is a little diatomacious earth sprinkled on the food. Don't get the kind for pools and spas, get the garden kind. Works for fire ants too.
(anybody notice a recurring theme of fire ant cures from me? they are a plague of Biblical proportions!)
I think it is a different but similar problem here. The real drought is being blown out of proportion by the greenies and the media so that it is *thought* we have a horrendous drought. We had one like this in 1983 and 84. and then it rained and we had some good years. same old same old. but now the green-nuts, tree-huggers, politicians and newsmedia are all in bed together and we're going to get rationed legislated out of water.
I posted in an earlier post what my little daughter has told me about oil companies buying up all the water rights in west Texas. It all fits in the puzzle.
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