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Europe's hidden civilization: Trypilians thrived for thousands of years in what is now Ukraine
Town Crier ^ | Wednesday, January 7, 2009 | Lorianna De Giorgio

Posted on 01/08/2009 7:53:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv

You have heard of the Egyptians, the Romans and the Greeks. Even the Sumerians may ring a bell. But the Trypilians? ...Well, you're not alone if you don't know who the ancient people of present day Ukraine were. Despite their incredible advances -- the 5400-2700 BC culture is credited at creating the largest settlements in the world during that time -- they quickly and mysteriously faded into obscurity, almost seemingly erased from the world's history books... Thanks to Ukraine's Orange Revolution five years ago, and further work done by a slew of the Eastern European country's museums, including the National Museum of the History of Ukraine in Kiev, the incredible history of the Trypilians has been unearthed. That achievement has been collected into an in-depth and impressive exhibition, Mysteries of Ancient Ukraine: The Remarkable Trypilian Culture 5400-2700 BC, which runs until March 22 at the ROM [Royal Ontario Museum]. Mysteries features over 300 artifacts from the Trypilian culture, including earthenware pottery, ceramic figurines and other artifacts, many of which were unearthed by Ukrainian archaeologist Vikenty Khvoika in 1896.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: archeology; godsgravesglyphs; history; trypilians; ukraine
Treasures From The Past: A 5,000-year-old sculpted head and a 6,000-year-old grain container are among the highlights of the travelling collection on Trypilian culture and art appearing at the ROM.
Trypilians thrived for thousands of years in what is now Ukraine

1 posted on 01/08/2009 7:53:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/08/2009 7:53:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Next time build an army.


3 posted on 01/08/2009 7:55:09 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
Ha.

They were too busy making pots and jugs and forgot to make knives and spears.

4 posted on 01/08/2009 7:57:25 PM PST by Pharmboy (BHO: making death and taxes yet MORE certain...)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam
Their pillars/house columns/gods look an awful lot like the Mongolian Deer Stones much further North and East, as well as the half dozen remaining stones in Brown County, Indiana.

(Blam, remember the pictures I posted several years back).

5 posted on 01/08/2009 8:00:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SunkenCiv

Someone should write a book: “The Fall of the Trypilians”.


6 posted on 01/08/2009 8:00:33 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SunkenCiv; 2banana; Pharmboy

At the Royal Ontario Museum.

Their website mentions that the settlements could be as much as 10,000 - 15,000 people and that they would burn them down and relocate every 50 - 70 years. Interesting.

I know from prior readings that the Neolithic period was probably the worst time to be a human being. Life was based around a few semi-domesticated plants, farming methods were crude, malnutrition was rampant and disease endemic. People hadn’t learned about basic sanitation; necessary when you live in one place rather than move around. Average human life expectancy supposedly reached it’s nadir during this period.

Perhaps the Trypilians were among the first culture to master these basic lessons. The regular burning and relocation sounds sort of like the tropical swidden (slash and burn) lifestyle on a larger scale. Probably they moved when the soil showed signs of wearing out, leaving the ashes of their dwellings to help fertilize things for a return decades later. Still the long time frame and organization necessary for such planning and execution seem exceptional.

The important thing to remember, well-known nutjobs aside, sedentary agricultural civilization was impossible before the end of the Ice Ages around ten thousand years ago. Before then, the Earth’s climate was too chaotic and fluctuating to allow for any but a few million hunter-gatherers.


7 posted on 01/08/2009 8:14:07 PM PST by sinanju
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To: sinanju
Before then, the Earth’s climate was too chaotic and fluctuating to allow for any but a few million hunter-gatherers.

Not only that, the CO2 concentration was too low to permit much plant growth.
8 posted on 01/08/2009 8:24:58 PM PST by aruanan
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for posting. I am always interested in Ukraine discoveries. Land of my fathers.


9 posted on 01/08/2009 9:14:03 PM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: sinanju

The problem with this is, the supposed accomplishments of this culture have been overblown for nationalist political reasons.

Agriculture is at least 14,000 years old — a multirow barley sample (which would require rudimentary irrigation) from the Middle East tested that old (unadjusted age, so it was somewhat older than that). The climate in lands 200 to 800 feet below our current sealevel would have been at least as good as it is now in northern Europe, but all that was covered with water as the glaciers melted.


10 posted on 01/08/2009 9:19:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Dustbunny

My pleasure. :’)


11 posted on 01/08/2009 9:40:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: sinanju
before the end of the Ice Ages ... the Earth’s climate was too chaotic and fluctuating to allow for any but a few million hunter-gatherers

The entire history of human civilization is crammed into those 10K years of natural "global warming." A return to glacial conditions is likely, and with it a catastrophe far beyond the fantasies of the anthropogenic GW cranks.

12 posted on 01/08/2009 9:54:33 PM PST by hellbender
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To: muawiyah
"(Blam, remember the pictures I posted several years back). "

Yes, I do.

13 posted on 01/08/2009 10:16:25 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

very cool! so tripies were in Ukraine and Celts were in Poland - I wonder why the Tripies built their homes on stilts? lions, tigers and bears?


14 posted on 01/09/2009 3:19:06 AM PST by blueplum
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To: SunkenCiv

Were they related to the Reptilians? ;0)


15 posted on 01/09/2009 4:31:55 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Pharmboy

We must never forget an ancient maxim. “ War is the art without which all other arts can’t exist.”


16 posted on 01/09/2009 6:50:58 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: blueplum

I think they were just showin’ off.


17 posted on 01/09/2009 10:17:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: seemoAR

From the look of that example of their art, their cultural descendants make novelty salt and pepper shakers.


18 posted on 01/09/2009 10:18:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Be honest. When you first read the name of that tribe, did you get the image of a Triffid flashing through your mind?


19 posted on 01/09/2009 1:41:39 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: aruanan

Careful there, you’re speaking ill of Algore’s goal.


20 posted on 01/09/2009 1:52:06 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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