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'Chicken and Chips' Theory of Pacific Migration
Newswise ^ | Tuesday, July 29, 2008 | University of Adelaide

Posted on 07/31/2008 12:33:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The study questions recent claims that chickens were first introduced into South America by Polynesians, before the arrival of Spanish chickens in the 15th century following Christopher Columbus.

...the University of Adelaide's Australian Centre for Ancient DNA (ACAD) Director Professor Alan Cooper says there has been considerable debate about the existence and degree of contact between Polynesians and South Americans, with the presence of the sweet potato throughout the Pacific often used as evidence of early trading contacts...

A recent study claimed to have found the first direct evidence of a genetic link between ancient Polynesian and apparently pre-Columbian chickens from archaeological sites in Chile, supporting the idea that there was extensive contact between Polynesia and South America and that chicken and 'chips' had been traded in opposite directions.

The current work challenges this conclusion however, by generating DNA data from 41 native Chilean chicken specimens, and comparing these with over 1000 modern domestic chickens from around the world, and the previously published DNA from Polynesian and Chilean chicken bones.

The researchers did find a highly unusual DNA sequence in the ancient Easter Island chickens, which originate from Indonesia or the Philippines, but this apparently did not get passed on to South America...

According to project leader Dr Jaime Gongora from Sydney University, many people in South America like to believe they are descendants of Polynesians. "This study does not disprove this idea, but we have found no evidence to support pre-historic contact."

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The whole thing has been a nest of problems.
1 posted on 07/31/2008 12:33:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 07/31/2008 12:34:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Like I’ve been telling the wife for years-there’s a difference between a sweet potato and a yam.


3 posted on 07/31/2008 1:05:20 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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> Like I've been telling the wife for years-there's a difference between a sweet potato and a yam.

There is. And a sweet potato and a kumara. So far as I can tell, they are three separate things. Of the lot, I like the kumara best: very nice chopped into chips and deep-fried, served with sour cream -- great way to soak up excess beer and put on some calories for The Rugby.

4 posted on 07/31/2008 1:16:14 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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I’ll definitely do a taste test! Thanks.

http://www.kumara.co.nz/about.shtml


5 posted on 07/31/2008 1:28:51 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: SunkenCiv

Geez, I hope they didn’t use my tax money to fund this piece of useless babble.


6 posted on 07/31/2008 4:16:57 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: SunkenCiv

......which originate from Indonesia or the Philippines, .....

Curiously, there currently is an export market for fighting roosters from East Tennessee breeders to the Philippines. It could very well be that the ancient chicken trade was actually fighting rooster trade.


7 posted on 07/31/2008 5:14:36 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why did the chicken cross the Pacific?

To give pre-historic humans a standard for taste comparision with snakes, turtles, frogs and armadillos and other species.

NYUK NYUK NYUK


8 posted on 07/31/2008 7:45:19 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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Good suggestion! Even if it weren’t the primary reason, it’s hard to believe no one ever tried it before the 19th century.


9 posted on 07/31/2008 8:14:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Westlander

Yeah, I was tempted to quibble about that with someone last week, but it’s like tellin’ people there was never Red Dye #2 in old-time red M&Ms.


10 posted on 07/31/2008 8:18:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
A recent study claimed to have found the first direct evidence...supporting the idea that...chicken and 'chips' had been traded in opposite directions.

As opposed to being traded in the same direction, of course. Your tax dollars, productively at work. Bawwwk, bawwwk. Respect the Chicken.
11 posted on 07/31/2008 8:19:56 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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The current work challenges this conclusion however, by generating DNA data from 41 native Chilean chicken specimens, and comparing these with over 1000 modern domestic chickens from around the world, and the previously published DNA from Polynesian and Chilean chicken bones.

Reverend Col. Sanders-Wright, your chickens have come home to roost... It just tears me up how these self-sacrificing, dedicated scientists do so much--of such great societal value, of course being duly compensated with taxpayer scratch. I'll have a drumstick, please.




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12 posted on 08/03/2008 7:34:23 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Well, this explains the evolution of Burger King's chicken-fries.


13 posted on 08/03/2008 7:49:08 PM PDT by WSGilcrest (even the monkey seems to want)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Do you really have chicken legs...


14 posted on 08/03/2008 8:26:47 PM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 08/03/2008 9:17:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; SunkenCiv; Rennes Templar; LexBaird; lowbridge; trooprally; ...
self-sacrificing, dedicated scientists do so much--of such great societal value,

Where the heck is Thor Heyerdahl when one needs him? I suggest that these dedicated men and women be put on a huge balsa raft in Tahiti, with chickens and sweet potatoes.

Then, an equally dedicated group of freepers, under my direction, follow them at a discrete distance of course, in large sailing yachts for a couple of years. All to be funded by $100 Million Dollar Grant from the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Foundation.

We'll get to the bottom of this Chilean Chicken Business, or at least to the bottom of some very nice Chilean Chardonnays, which I am told go well with chicken. But of course that is the subject of another study, which will require further funding, of course.

16 posted on 08/04/2008 3:16:46 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Pump MORE US Crude--2Xrefining capacity -- Coal /METHANOL fuel-- Build Nukes)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Don’t let it put you in a fowl mood....


17 posted on 08/04/2008 9:03:38 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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18 posted on 09/05/2008 8:53:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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19 posted on 09/05/2008 8:58:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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